There has been very little "rational discussion"

I was cornered from the day I made my first post ever on this forum,
when I argued that Shane Long was under-rated and over-maligned.


I was right then. I'm righter now.

I've been looking at players who have got a lot of goals before their 24th birthday As Shane is now just 23 Years 10 Months. It gets interesting to see, for example, how many Kevin Doyle (6.5 Million or Dave Kitson 5.5 Million) had at Shane's age 40 Kitson 19 Doyle (44 if you count his goals at Cork...

I didn't start a nasty thread suggesting a good, serious, hard-working servant to the club should be got rid of. I'm defending a player I consider to be one of our best, one of the first on the team sheet. But this is where your deluded, blinkered mind gets the better of you. Nearly all the people ...

1. Long is a good player and an asset to the team 2. He should not be played as the sole striker, personally I think he should play in the proverbial "hole" behind one or two other strikers Not really thought about it but always presumed the hole role needed the extra close control of a m...

Found an article that suggests Kitson had stopped playing football for THREE YEARS before being picked again up by Cambridge United. Nice story if it's true, but how exactly did that happen? Was he kicking a cabbage around the store and spotted by an astute coach? Or was he playing park football? An...

Never said we can't debate intangibles, just that it's circular and pretty much meaningless

Was there ever a point to this incredibly tedious thread? If so what was it and how does it add to the sum of knowledge of Reading Football Club? I didn't start a nasty thread suggesting a good, serious, hard-working servant to the club should be got rid of. I'm defending a player I consider to be ...

The point about Kitson is to deal with the myth that it's as if he hadn't played football through his childhood and teens. The fairy story almost tries to infer that he was a shelf-stacker who discovered he could kick a ball. When the reality is much MUCH different. He had been a serious, regular fo...

I'm confused. When we could defend, but not score goals having a solid defence was the way to do well in this division. Now it's clear Harte is better attacking yet more suspect defensively, he shouldn't be taken out of the team because of what he offers going forwards. Surely this is contradictory...

Snowball Here is the foul by Barthez on Harte. A dive? Really?

Happy to hear people say they got that one wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leyfE7sFj4I

What do you think Hoop?

You think that's a definite (nasty and deliberate kick) or a dive?


1. Kick

2. Dive

Ideal

Snowball Here is the penalty save by Barthez from Harte. Soft shot. Really.

That was Harte doing the Corinthian right thing

You made a statement that you were not aware of Harte having a reputation of cheating from anyone. An article was found showing that in fact there is at least one out there. That is not REMOTELY "evidence". You're so blinded by red mist that you can't see it was no more than a peeved Ferg...

Here is the foul by Barthez on Harte. A dive? Really?

Happy to hear people say they got that one wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leyfE7sFj4I

Sometimes it's better to use no evidence and stick to opinion, than to use crap, limited or selective evidence. That way at least you're not trying to give something undue or misleading weight and being honest. crap, limited or selective stats can be less than worthless. OR, when you don't KNOW, yo...

How many do other players have? If the majority have none it could be quite a lot taken in some actual context. And I rather thought that the point was there were some, rather than none. And there's still the footage of him trying to get an opposition player sent off in a game for us earlier this s...

But you KNOW nothing. Neither do you but that doesn't stop you spouting your crap all day everyday claiming it all to be facts and statistically proven. I don't understand why you believe yourself to be superior to everyone else when you have been shown up, had stats torn apart and challenges met t...

Just so's you know Hoop. I Googled Harte and Dive and I found the bleating Man U manager, and one hanger-on (who admitted to a two-footed challenge on Harte) I have found absolutely NO OTHER REFERENCE to Harte diving, anywhere in the last 15 years Except there was some psycho on HNA who sees Irish ...

LONG, FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY HARTE

Wycombe Royal

Snowball Calling a moron a moron isn't offensive, it's merely accuracy.

Personally I'd rather be a moron than be you. And I really really honestly mean that.

WELL YOU GOT BOTH YOUR WISHES...

I'm confused. When we could defend, but not score goals having a solid defence was the way to do well in this division. Now it's clear Harte is better attacking yet more suspect defensively, he shouldn't be taken out of the team because of what he offers going forwards. Surely this is contradictory...