by Ryn » 27 Sep 2010 11:42
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by Snowball » 29 Sep 2010 19:40
by Snowball » 04 Oct 2010 16:40
Snowball According to stats posted we should expect to score a goal every 37 corners
UPDATE We have had 80 corners this season and scored 4 goals from them, 1 goal every 20 corners
Kebe at Portsmouth, Mills v Northampton, Mills at Leicester, Karacan/Church v Ipswich
Another five corners to defend v Ipswich, so..
We have defended 69 corners and conceded 4 goals including the goal when Hamer double-dropped the ball
149 corners, 8 goals = 1 goal every 18.5 corners
by Stuka » 04 Oct 2010 16:49
Elliott A couple of seasons ago we were devestating from corners, I seem to remember both our goals coming from Bikey headers in our first home game back in the Championship (Plymouth?) and we just went on from there scoring from a corner once every 2 or 3 games?!
by Ryn » 04 Oct 2010 16:51
by Tony Le Mesmer » 04 Oct 2010 19:06
by Snowball » 04 Oct 2010 22:49
Ryn Even if we are scoring corners at twice the 'average', we're still conceding goals from corners at twice the average.
by Ian Royal » 05 Oct 2010 01:09
SnowballRyn Even if we are scoring corners at twice the 'average', we're still conceding goals from corners at twice the average.
Personally, I think that study that was quoted was a bit iffy.
Either way, what matters is we are scoring from 1 in 20 (good enough)
and doing a little bit better than our opposition does against us.
But, IF it is true that on average only 2.5% of corners result in a goal,
then why do attacking players so often let the ball go for a corner,
as if we now will have a great chance to score?
Surely, if the stats are accurate, players should try to keep the ball alive?
by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 05 Oct 2010 07:59
by Snowball » 05 Oct 2010 10:56
Ian Royal
Guaranteed kick into box with good support in place >
Ian Royal
possible kick into box with likely more limited support in place.
Ian Royal You're making a comparison on which is best with no figures on conversion rates for attacking open play in wide areas.
by Ian Royal » 05 Oct 2010 19:33
SnowballIan Royal Guaranteed kick into box with good support in place >
That apparently only results in a goal every 37 corners (overall average)
Keeper fully ready, all defenders back, player on the post(s) etc
versus:Ian Royal possible kick into box with likely more limited support in place.
Yes, and defence LESS ready, having to turn, more space, possibility of the cross, or shot, or a tackle resulting in a free-kick or penaltyIan Royal You're making a comparison on which is best with no figures on conversion rates for attacking open play in wide areas.
I'm not "making a comparison". I have NO IDEA what the best strategy is. I was very surprised to hear that on average 36 corners out of 37 are wasted. Had I ventured a guess I'd've thought we scored from 1 in 10 or slightly better.
It would be fascinating to see what would happen if a manager told his players NOT to win the corner
but to try and keep the ball live. I'd also like to see more short corners, and different ideas from corners. I think, overall, it would mean more goals scored
snowball Surely, if the stats are accurate, players should try to keep the ball alive?
by Snowball » 05 Oct 2010 21:17
Ian Royal
I'm sorry, you aren't suggesting it is better to keep the ball alive based on corner stats compared to nothing about live ball stats with that statement? I must be misunderstanding you somewhere.
by Snowball » 05 Oct 2010 21:26
by Ian Royal » 05 Oct 2010 23:48
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by Snowball » 06 Oct 2010 13:27
by From Despair To Where? » 06 Oct 2010 13:56
by sandman » 06 Oct 2010 13:57
The Real Sandhurst Royal Not enough movement in the box for me when we have a corner.
We will get lucky once or twice but we always look static and line up in the same formation.
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