Slow starters this season

[robinsfriday]

I would ignore any game that involves us scoring first.

McDermott started the season with a big problem in defence. His replacement for Mills was shit and the rest of the four were diabolically slow. Since then he's clearly spent a lot of focus on building a solid defensive basis from which to then start looking at building an attack. It's been a real shame that we also lost our big goal scorer.

If we'd only had one of the defence being a combination of geriatrics and chucklebrother rejects or the attack being goal-shy we'd have been in with a great chance of challenging to win the title. One got fixed at the end of August and hopefully the other got fixed in January and we can have another funny play off crapshoot ending in inevitable failure.

Absolutely 100% agree. Spot on Ian. By the way, we will win the league by 5 points this season.

For those of you on you on Twitter. This is a #fact

[RobRoyal]

How do Saints and Blackpool compare in the number of games they've scored first in and how many they've drawn?

Reading: Scored first 12, won 11, drawn 1
Southampton: Scored first 16, won 14, drawn 2 (but conceded 10, by the way)
Blackpool: Scored first 11, won 9, drawn 2 (conceded 5).

How do Saints and Blackpool compare in the number of points they've picked up when they've gone behind?

Reading: Conceded first 16, W4 D3 L9 Pts 15 (0.93 per game)
Southampton: Conceded first 14 W2 D5 L7 Pts 11 (0.78 per game)
Blackpool: Conceded first 19 W5 D5 L7 Pts 22 (1.15 per game)

[Snowball]

What happens when they neither score first or concede first?

I'm betting on a draw but I'm not sure

[andrew1957]

Good to see that Jobi uses my threads on hobnob for inspiration - From RFC twittter

Good stat from Jobi McAnuff is his programme notes this week about how many games we've won when scoring first #readingfc
25 minutes ago

[Snowball]

They do it a lot.

McDermott quote me often.

"Based on the last 23/24 games we'd be be top of the league"

[Ian Royal]

How do Saints and Blackpool compare in the number of games they've scored first in and how many they've drawn?

Reading: Scored first 12, won 11, drawn 1
Southampton: Scored first 16, won 14, drawn 2 (but conceded 10, by the way)
Blackpool: Scored first 11, won 9, drawn 2 (conceded 5).

How do Saints and Blackpool compare in the number of points they've picked up when they've gone behind?

Reading: Conceded first 16, W4 D3 L9 Pts 15 (0.93 per game)
Southampton: Conceded first 14 W2 D5 L7 Pts 11 (0.78 per game)
Blackpool: Conceded first 19 W5 D5 L7 Pts 22 (1.15 per game)

Good job sir. THat's pretty impressive shizzle from Blackpool.

[Pepe the Horseman]

They do it a lot.

McDermott quote me often.

"I want to fuck Shane Long"

[floyd__streete]

They do it a lot.

McDermott quote me often.

"Based on the last 23/24 games we'd be be top of the league"

Based on the last 140 years we'd be in League One.

[RobRoyal]

What happens when they neither score first or concede first?

I'm betting on a draw but I'm not sure

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

[Ian Royal]

What happens when they neither score first or concede first?

I'm betting on a draw but I'm not sure

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

Missed penalty gets you an assist.... Lolz

[Snowball]

What happens when they neither score first or concede first?

I'm betting on a draw but I'm not sure

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

Yup. Winning a penalty. But I wouldn't expect a moron to understand why.

[Snowball]

What happens when they neither score first or concede first?

I'm betting on a draw but I'm not sure

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

Missed penalty gets you an assist.... Lolz

Hey DB. A missed penalty gets you nothing.

WINNING a penalty gets the assist for winning a penalty. What the penalty taker does is not relevant.

But as I said, morons can't understand the difference.

You, no doubt, DO understand this, because you're VERY CLEVER and are an extremely good judge of body shapes.

[Snowball]

They do it a lot.

McDermott quote me often.

"Based on the last 23/24 games we'd be be top of the league"

Based on the last 140 years we'd be in League One.

Yeah, and like we have lots of players from 1871 still in the team

[Ian Royal]

By definition, an assist is awarded to the player who assisted a goalscorer in scoring. You can't assist a goalscorer in scoring, if he didn't score. If there is no goal, there is nothing to have assisted on.

The football league website clearly shows no assists recorded for Cywka, and whilst their figures rely on someone actually having compiled them correctly, I think it's safe to assume they wouldn't fail to notice someone winning a penalty. Even if they made the mistake that some of the press did in saying it was won by Church, he doesn't have any assists awarded to him either.

In association football, an assist is a contribution by a player which helps to score a goal.

The pass or passes which immediately precede a goal; a maximum of two assists can be credited for one goal.

Oh and on related subject where you are talking considerably less out of your arse, but still on dodgy ground:

Players cannot be awarded an assist for a goal they themselves score.

Now that I've comprehensively and reasonably politely demonstrated that you are utterly wrong, I can happily sit back and await the childish and condescending abuse that will inevitably follow, because you are near pathalogically incapable of admitting to being wrong, even in the face of the most overwhelming evidence.

Night all.

[peterroyal76]

What happens when they neither score first or concede first?

I'm betting on a draw but I'm not sure

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

Yup. Winning a penalty. But I wouldn't expect a moron to understand why.

[Snowball]

By definition, an assist is awarded to the player who assisted a goalscorer in scoring. You can't assist a goalscorer in scoring, if he didn't score. If there is no goal, there is nothing to have assisted on.

I know you have the memory of a goldfish, but we have already discussed this, and I explained that if the word "assist" gets your sister's knickers in a twist then simply refer to "Major Contribution".

McDermott has at two separate times referred to Cywka's "winning a penalty", and it has been mentioned by other players.

It is the winning of the penalty that is the credit, NOT the result.

Oh and on related subject where you are talking considerably less out of your arse, but still on dodgy ground:

Players cannot be awarded an assist for a goal they themselves score.

Stats sites award an assist for winning a penalty. Here is Jason's first game:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/jason ... _3666.html

28.01.12 - Reading - Bristol City 1:0 MS 1 Goal 1 Assist 77 76

Now that I've comprehensively and reasonably politely (saying you are talking out of your arse)
demonstrated that you are utterly wrong, I can happily sit back and await the childish and condescending
abuse that will inevitably follow the fact that I am a whingeing oxf*rd who ignores previous communications
on the subject .

and you will, of course, ignore our previous discussion of "assists"
versus "Major Contributions" with respect to winning penalties

[Ian Herring]

They do it a lot.

McDermott quote me often.

"Based on the last 23/24 games we'd be be top of the league"

Based on the last 140 years we'd be in League One.

Massive LOLZ

[RobRoyal]

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

Yup. Winning a penalty. But I wouldn't expect a moron to understand why.

No Snowball, I understand your reasoning I just don't agree with it.

You should learn that the world can't be divided into

a) People who agree with you and
b) Morons.

[Snowball]

I reckon a 0-0 draw where you'd still find some excuse to award "significant contributions" to several players.

Yup. Winning a penalty. But I wouldn't expect a moron to understand why.

No Snowball, I understand your reasoning I just don't agree with it.

You should learn that the world can't be divided into

a) People who agree with you and
b) Morons.

It's totally irrelevant whether we agree or not.

I keep stats and award a Major Contribution for winning a pen.
It's that simple. People are free to ignore that stat. I don't care

[SydenhamRoyal]

We all seem to know how poor we have been at scoring in the first half. Those games where we HAVE scored in the first half, we have mostly not scored at all in the second, but havent scored more in the second half than in the first. So if we score in the first half against Burnley, might as well go home as we know the score already

As I was saying ...