by Cypry » 03 Mar 2013 10:53
by Wimb » 03 Mar 2013 11:06
by Biscuit_Boy » 03 Mar 2013 11:10
by Snowball » 03 Mar 2013 11:10
by rhroyal » 03 Mar 2013 11:10
by Snowball » 03 Mar 2013 11:11
Biscuit_Boy We signed two League One players, one from the Prem and a totally unfit guy from Portugal. Could have maybe looked to the Championship at least?
by Cypry » 03 Mar 2013 11:34
Biscuit_Boy We signed two League One players, one from the Prem and a totally unfit guy from Portugal. Could have maybe looked to the Championship at least?
by Mr.T10 » 03 Mar 2013 12:28
by joeroyal » 03 Mar 2013 15:25
Snowball Neat Post
Not sure what "I would have done".
Kelly is a very good buy. So is Akpan.
I think had we managed to get Gylfi (or probably Ince) that might have been enough to get us to 4th/5th bottom. We aren't THAT far off, even now
and it is still in our hands, just beat Villa and Saints and draw/beat QPR and we have a real fighting chance.
But, for me, I think McDermott and the owners have been building a Championship side. That is, they are looking at a very-probable
Championship season next year and a go for automatic promotion.
Not saying they aren't trying to stay up, but that all their buys in January are suggestive of "will be good next year", so they are
trying to buy players who wouldn't leave if we go down.
McArthy/Feds
Kelly-Morrison-Marriappa-Shorey/A N Other
Kebe/McCleary ---Akpan/Elwood/Karacan --- McAnuff/HRK
Blackman//Alf/Hunt
Looks a very strong basic side for the Championship. If the Portugese guy comes good
and plays to his (apparent) potential, and we add one or two we have a squad with
a very likely top six finish and a decent shot at automatic.
If by some miracle we stay up, we will need a top left back, another CB (and/or Pearce signed)
and some class in MF (like Siggy/Ince) and maybe a striker
by Avon Royal » 03 Mar 2013 16:50
by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 03 Mar 2013 16:58
by Sanguine » 03 Mar 2013 17:22
by JordCot » 03 Mar 2013 17:34
The Real Sandhurst Royal McDermott should have cleared the decks he has been to loyal: Tabb, Legs, Harte, Cummings, Church and Gorkss should have all been released at the end of last season.
Two centre backs with Premier League experience and two quality midfielder that could hold the ball were required.
by Cypry » 03 Mar 2013 20:01
Sanguine Appreciate the time you've taken to write a lengthy post explaining your views Cypry, but given the central plank of those views is that we couldn't have spent more without risking the financial stability of the club (I totally disagree) - well it just seems pointless rehashing old arguments.
I'd have spent more, but you've just told us we couldn't. So pointless thread really.
by CayeneMatt » 03 Mar 2013 20:41
The Real Sandhurst Royal McDermott should have cleared the decks he has been to loyal: Tabb, Legs, Harte, Cummings, Church and Gorkss should have all been released at the end of last season.
Two centre backs with Premier League experience and two quality midfielder that could hold the ball were required.
by Sanguine » 03 Mar 2013 22:16
CyprySanguine Appreciate the time you've taken to write a lengthy post explaining your views Cypry, but given the central plank of those views is that we couldn't have spent more without risking the financial stability of the club (I totally disagree) - well it just seems pointless rehashing old arguments.
I'd have spent more, but you've just told us we couldn't. So pointless thread really.
The point of the thread was to ask what other people's views were, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with mine....I'm not saying that I'm right, they are, after all, only opinions....and I'm not saying we couldn't have spent more, the question is, how much more would we have needed to spend to make a difference...?
Sandhurst has suggested half a dozen players we should have offloaded in the Summer, in some cases I agree, but he seems to be suggesting replacing Tabb and Legs with "upgrades" - I'm guessing we're talking £4M+, Gorkks with another two quality CBs (assuming that Mariappa is not one of those two) so another £4M+, and getting rid of Cummings and Harte, leaving us with one option at both left, and right back....
For Prem quality players, I'd suggest that £2M apiece for 4 players is probably on the low side, but nonetheless, in this example Sandurst seems to be suggesting we should have bought in at least 4 possibly 6 (assuming that 1LB and 1RB is a non-starter) so probably £10M+ on transfers, plus additional wages....pretty sure that would start to stretch "sustainability"...
I'm interested to see what people think we should have done.....it's easy to say we got it wrong, but not quite so easy to go into detail about how we could have done things better...
by DOYLERSAROYALER » 03 Mar 2013 22:33
CayeneMattThe Real Sandhurst Royal McDermott should have cleared the decks he has been to loyal: Tabb, Legs, Harte, Cummings, Church and Gorkss should have all been released at the end of last season.
Two centre backs with Premier League experience and two quality midfielder that could hold the ball were required.
This is complete bollox. With the benefit of hindsight, you're close, but at the time Ledge, Harte and Gorkks were on top form and Cummings wasn't playing too badly either. There was no concrete suggestion that they wouldn't cut it in the prem.
by Libertine » 04 Mar 2013 04:30
by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 04 Mar 2013 07:15
The Real Sandhurst Royal wrote:
McDermott should have cleared the decks he has been to loyal: Tabb, Legs, Harte, Cummings, Church and Gorkss should have all been released at the end of last season.
Two centre backs with Premier League experience and two quality midfielder that could hold the ball were required..CayeneMatt wrote:This is complete bollox. With the benefit of hindsight, you're close, but at the time Ledge, Harte and Gorkks were on top form and Cummings wasn't playing too badly either. There was no concrete suggestion that they wouldn't cut it in the premDoylersaroyal wrote: Old Colin saw that Gorkks and Ledge couldn't cut it at Prem level and duly shipped them both out ... we took them, fair to them they did a good job in Championship, but now we've found out what Colin did...what goes around comes around I guess
by Cripple Creek » 04 Mar 2013 08:59
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