Guthrie gone

[Sutekh]

But then he's been injured for much of his time here plus the fact he knows he's not going to be offered a new deal which must be dispiriting. I expect to see him deliver some good performances at Fulham as he uses it for a springboard to relaunch his career.

Personally I wish him all the very best and hope it really works out for him and I will not be disrespecting him when he's back with another club.

[Mr.Swainey]

Couldn't go into work today, my head wasn't right.

[Snowball]

But then he's been injured for much of his time here plus the fact he knows he's not going to be offered a new deal which must be dispiriting. I expect to see him deliver some good performances at Fulham as he uses it for a springboard to relaunch his career.

Personally I wish him all the very best and hope it really works out for him and I will not be disrespecting him when he's back with another club.

well said

[holsgrove breaks a leg]

No more peacock strutting round the pitch thank god for that. Must be on a comparative fortune with us in the Championship, an absolute no brainer which will hopefully free up some funds in the summer. With contracts running out in the sumer there will some further big, albeit required changes coming. Some semi decent performances right at the start of the prem campaign and at the beggining under Adkins, but hugely forgettable time here. Injuries and fitness always a concern (he made Darren Caskey look athletic), his playing style stopped the flow of a game to a virtual standstill even if his team mates may not have been 'on his same wavelength' and having watched him carefully never saw much of his supposed ball playing vision when a simple short pass could have been enough. The whinging on the pitch to younger team members that he should have been inspiring surely was the icing on the cake. Not that i could say im in any way convinced by the protege that is Oliver Norwood mind...

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

Another one of those players right at the end of their contract who will no doubt put in a short stream of top-class performances in order to win another 2-3 years stealing a living as a footballer from some unsuspecting club.

[Hoop Blah]

Such a shame we didn't get the best from a pretty talented player, but it's a great move to get him out of the club now and shave a bit off the wage bill and start the moving on process a few months earlier.

He didn't help himself here, and he's obviously had a load of injury problems, but when given licence to run the game and get on the ball he looked one of the best passing midfielders we've had over the last 20 years.

[RG30]

No loss. The guy has been poor both on and off the pitch. Good riddance.

[Big Foot]

Never been a consistent first team regular anywhere in his career, he is a fat Black Country pikey tosser

[teignmouth hoops]

Never been a consistent first team regular anywhere in his career, he is a fat Black Country pikey tosser

Go on say what you really mean

Player with a fair bit of skill, that we never seemed to get the best out of.
This season in the few appearances he has made , he's looked hopelessly unfit and off the pace
Obviously never got on with McDermott and as a club we've lost out via his high salary and lack of playing time
So best for both parties he does one

[Handsome Man]

He looked decent at the start of last season, but teams soon worked out that he was the fulcrum of the team and just applied pressure and stopped giving him time on the ball. he then got injured and hasn't really ever returned to fitness since. When he has played this year he has looked very slow and off the pace. Suspect he needs games and then he'll come good again, but just not on our payroll

This sums him up nicely. He looked a world beater for a few months and then got found out.

[Maguire]

Terrible human being, massively overrated player. Had about three decent games ever. Pfuck him.

This is us one step closer to getting over the AZ era and back on an even footing.

[Coppelled_Streets]

Getting Guthrie off the wage bill early and taking up the option to keep Gunter for 12 more months is a good week for RFC. Looking forward to a lot of changes this summer. At least it wont be dull.

[Ian Royal]

Between them, Guthrie, Pogrebnyak, Drenthe, and Akpan epitomise everything that went wrong with RFC during Zingaravich's ownership.

Guthrie was a good player, who was bought as the sole attempt to resolve our obviously massive midfield deficiencies when we went up. A player who could keep the ball and pass well and would help us retain and use possession better in the PL where bypassing midfield and working hard to make the opposition make a mistake simply aren't enough. He was then both under and miss used by McDermott, leading to the spat that so many people obsess over endlessly. Following which he continued to be under and misused on the whole.

What I'd like to know is why on earth we bought him if we weren't going to make any effort to use him effectively and play to his strengths? Another Anton pick McDermott had no say in?

He was one of our better midfielders in the PL, despite being under and misused. He was one of our better midfielders under Adkins (when he was fit to play) and was even getting pushed as a potential PotS early last season. Certainly he was being better used and performing better than under McDermott. Not long after that he just broke down physically and got injury after injury. It's totally inaccurate to say that Adkins thought he was useless. TBH there's not even much evidence to say that Clarke doesn't rate him either. The simple fact is that he's had his recent time here crippled by injury and he's one of the big earners we can't afford who's out of contract in the summer. No matter how much you rate him, the combination of his match fitness and the fact he's always going to be off in the summer mean playing him is utterly pointless. Especially when we have Norwood and Kuhl who play essentially the same role for much less money.

I wish him all the best as he's a genuinely good player who's had his career wrecked by injury and the omni-shambles that that has been the last two and a half years at Reading FC.

[Big Foot]

People keep on saying "he was a good player"

What is this based on? He has never been a consistent first teamer

Says it all that the 3 things he is remembered most for are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_YyMKzTXU

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... brawl.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20688848

[Ian Royal]

Because when he played and he was fit he was good. He hasn't been a consistent first teamer because McDermott signed a player he clearly didn't want / didn't know how to use and he then spent a year injured.

He was a big part of Newcastle's promotion and played a significant part in their PL seasons, if not as a first team regular starter for the latter.

[SCIAG]

People keep on saying "he was a good player"

What is this based on? He has never been a consistent first teamer

If you don't rate him then fine, but you're blatantly wrong if you think he was never a consistent first teamer.

Last season, he started more or less our first 24 matches. Then he got injured. Once he was fit, he was back in the team, but got injured again. Adkins kept trying to stick him in the side, but he was obviously injured and pushed himself too hard, and since then he's not really recovered.

End of October 2013:

bridge has been almost faultless, pog is going to be up there if he keeps up current form and attitude.
id agree its guthrie by some way at the moment though

[leon]

Terrible human being, massively overrated player. Had about three decent games ever. Pfuck him.

This is us one step closer to getting over the AZ era and back on an even footing.

This + This

Holsgrove breaks a leg summed it up nicely as well.

He's never shown any of his supposed class on the pitch. Pissing about on the ball, slowing play down to a standstill, telegraphing long passes to reduce them to utter pointlessness and berating his fellow players constantly for just not being as good as him just doesn't cut it.

[AthleticoSpizz]

....but he had nice hair tho' Leon

[Dick Habbin's hairdo]

One just knew he was a wrong'un when one read the lobster throwing riot at his wedding reception with his equally chavvy Mrs just prior to joining us.

Massively over-rated. One decent game against Stoke at the Mad House in the Prem. Start of the season - one all draw.

[KC Royal]

Between them, Guthrie, Pogrebnyak, Drenthe, and Akpan epitomise everything that went wrong with RFC during Zingaravich's ownership.

Guthrie was a good player, who was bought as the sole attempt to resolve our obviously massive midfield deficiencies when we went up. A player who could keep the ball and pass well and would help us retain and use possession better in the PL where bypassing midfield and working hard to make the opposition make a mistake simply aren't enough. He was then both under and miss used by McDermott, leading to the spat that so many people obsess over endlessly. Following which he continued to be under and misused on the whole.

What I'd like to know is why on earth we bought him if we weren't going to make any effort to use him effectively and play to his strengths? Another Anton pick McDermott had no say in?

He was one of our better midfielders in the PL, despite being under and misused. He was one of our better midfielders under Adkins (when he was fit to play) and was even getting pushed as a potential PotS early last season. Certainly he was being better used and performing better than under McDermott. Not long after that he just broke down physically and got injury after injury. It's totally inaccurate to say that Adkins thought he was useless. TBH there's not even much evidence to say that Clarke doesn't rate him either. The simple fact is that he's had his recent time here crippled by injury and he's one of the big earners we can't afford who's out of contract in the summer. No matter how much you rate him, the combination of his match fitness and the fact he's always going to be off in the summer mean playing him is utterly pointless. Especially when we have Norwood and Kuhl who play essentially the same role for much less money.

I wish him all the best as he's a genuinely good player who's had his career wrecked by injury and the omni-shambles that that has been the last two and a half years at Reading FC.

If Anton played a part in us getting him then that makes a bit of sense as at the time we signed him I thought he was the wrong type of player for us, and not someone I imagined McDermott would go for.

Could look absolute class for us on occasions, but a disruptive influence and persistent injury problems mean i'm not fussed he's gone.