Relegate half the Premier League?

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Relegate half the Premier League?

by marlowuk » 06 Mar 2017 12:56

Don't know how many, if any, of you saw this in today's Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/mar/05/relegate-half-premier-league-excessive-but-merit/

There are some good ideas in the article (and the following readers' comments if you can be bothered!). Relegating half the league may be slightly OTT but a quarter (ie 5 teams if your Maths is dodgy!) would add interest. Also the ideas on 'no subs after 80 minutes', 'no January transfer window', etc.

Unlikely to see any of these ideas implemented due to the power the PL have of course.

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Re: Relegate half the Premier League?

by CountryRoyal » 06 Mar 2017 13:06

Why don't we just annex the premier league (along with sky), send them to some eternal intergalactic competition and have the championship as England top tier of football.

Sounds ideal to me.

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by bobby1413 » 06 Mar 2017 13:21

Not read that article but one of my ideas:

Bonus points if a team wins by a margin of more than 2 goals. E.g. a team winning 5-2 would get a bonus point.

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by Green » 06 Mar 2017 13:26

I like the idea of it - gives the mid table more to play for. But the trade off is, say you're bottom at christmas - there's probably less to play for. Just have to accept your f8. Maybe bottom two go down 2 divisions or something.

But it'll never happen in today's money driven game.

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by BR0B0T » 06 Mar 2017 13:33

bobby1413 Not read that article but one of my ideas:

Bonus points if a team wins by a margin of more than 2 goals. E.g. a team winning 5-2 would get a bonus point.


nah...just benefits 'flat-track bullies' (is that the phrase, can't rem)


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by Schards#2 » 06 Mar 2017 13:37

Green I like the idea of it - gives the mid table more to play for. But the trade off is, say you're bottom at christmas - there's probably less to play for. Just have to accept your f8. Maybe bottom two go down 2 divisions or something.

But it'll never happen in today's money driven game.


Bottom 3 down, next two into play offs with the two winners of the Championship play off semis.

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by bobby1413 » 06 Mar 2017 13:42

How about points automatically halved at end of the season for any team that included Joey Barton. It could be called "The Cnut clause"

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by muirinho » 06 Mar 2017 13:46

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Green I like the idea of it - gives the mid table more to play for. But the trade off is, say you're bottom at christmas - there's probably less to play for. Just have to accept your f8. Maybe bottom two go down 2 divisions or something.

But it'll never happen in today's money driven game.


Bottom 3 down, next two into play offs with the two winners of the Championship play off semis.


Trying to work this out but failing. Wouldn't that mean more go down then come up?

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by Schards#2 » 06 Mar 2017 13:52

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Green I like the idea of it - gives the mid table more to play for. But the trade off is, say you're bottom at christmas - there's probably less to play for. Just have to accept your f8. Maybe bottom two go down 2 divisions or something.

But it'll never happen in today's money driven game.


Bottom 3 down, next two into play offs with the two winners of the Championship play off semis.


Trying to work this out but failing. Wouldn't that mean more go down then come up?


1. C3 V C6
2. C4 V C5

3. P18 V Winner of 1
4. P17 v Winner of 2
5. Winner 3 V Winner 4

2 up 2 down and one at the mercy of the play offs

Would suggest games 3, 4 and 5 are all one offs at Wembley to avoid exhaustion on the Championship teams


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Re: Relegate half the Premier League?

by Sanguine » 06 Mar 2017 14:04

I think that actually achieves the opposite of the sentiment of the article, in that it means no additional sides get promoted, whilst more PL teams are staring nervously at the financial abyss.

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by genome » 06 Mar 2017 14:16

Relegating half the division is a terrible idea.

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by Green » 06 Mar 2017 15:00

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Green I like the idea of it - gives the mid table more to play for. But the trade off is, say you're bottom at christmas - there's probably less to play for. Just have to accept your f8. Maybe bottom two go down 2 divisions or something.

But it'll never happen in today's money driven game.


Bottom 3 down, next two into play offs with the two winners of the Championship play off semis.

Not really the radical solution some think the game needs.

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by Green » 06 Mar 2017 15:02

genome Relegating half the division is a terrible idea.

Got any better ones, or are you happy enough just shooting everyone else's down?


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by genome » 06 Mar 2017 15:10

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genome Relegating half the division is a terrible idea.

Got any better ones, or are you happy enough just shooting everyone else's down?


I liked the idea in the comments of a points quota - say, you have to reach 40 points otherwise relegation*. It's much better than just doing away with half the league - I can see people getting very tired of that very quickly.

*does present some problems but it's a nicer idea I think

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Re: Relegate half the Premier League?

by Forbury Lion » 06 Mar 2017 15:29

bobby1413 Not read that article but one of my ideas:

Bonus points if a team wins by a margin of more than 2 goals. E.g. a team winning 5-2 would get a bonus point.
Might as well give 1 extra point per goal scored to encourage more attacking play, even from a team that's 6-0 down..... although, a team down the bottom could play 11 attackers and just go for goals and forget all about winning or even drawing a game.

Needs more thought.

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by bobby1413 » 06 Mar 2017 16:09

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bobby1413 Not read that article but one of my ideas:

Bonus points if a team wins by a margin of more than 2 goals. E.g. a team winning 5-2 would get a bonus point.


Needs more thought.


I hear that a lot :cry:

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by linkenholtroyal » 06 Mar 2017 16:26

I like the idea of a 2 year season with 44 teams in it every 10 years, the top 22 then form the Premier league for the next 8 years with 2 being relegated and 2 promoted each year from both divisions as usual. share the spoils of money for those 2 years as well to boost the champ level. I would watch Rotherham vs Chelsea for points. like the idea of the bonus points as well similar to rugby.
will explain more if anyone needs it.

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Re: Relegate half the Premier League?

by genome » 06 Mar 2017 16:29

linkenholtroyal I like the idea of a 2 year season with 44 teams in it every 10 years, the top 22 then form the Premier league for the next 8 years with 2 being relegated and 2 promoted each year from both divisions as usual.



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Re: Relegate half the Premier League?

by Forbury Lion » 06 Mar 2017 17:13

You could go the other way, 2 seasons per year with leagues of 10. Top 2 go up, bottom 2 go down.

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Re: Relegate half the Premier League?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 07 Mar 2017 01:30

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Bottom 3 down, next two into play offs with the two winners of the Championship play off semis.


Trying to work this out but failing. Wouldn't that mean more go down then come up?


1. C3 V C6
2. C4 V C5

3. P18 V Winner of 1
4. P17 v Winner of 2
5. Winner 3 V Winner 4

2 up 2 down and one at the mercy of the play offs

Would suggest games 3, 4 and 5 are all one offs at Wembley to avoid exhaustion on the Championship teams


They tried that before and it caused a lot of crowd trouble.

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