Relegation

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Re: Relegation

by windermereROYAL » 22 Jan 2022 18:02

We can only be thankful that there are two worse teams on current form (plus Derby) than us at the moment. not sure how sustainable that is though.

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Re: Relegation

by Royal_jimmy » 23 Jan 2022 16:28

We could be playing Sutton United next season, a team who were playing the likes of Hungerford, Slough and Maidenhead not even 4 years ago. Now that is depressing.

We have to stay up at all costs. Or next season will be very embarrassing.

We could have all 4 of these fixtures..

1) Reading v Sutton United
2) Fleetwood v Reading
3) Reading v Morecambe
4) Accrington Stanley v Reading

Who would actually fancy watching those? Be lucky if we had 7k playing any of them teams at home

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Re: Relegation

by blythspartan » 23 Jan 2022 17:11

Royal_jimmy We could be playing Sutton United next season, a team who were playing the likes of Hungerford, Slough and Maidenhead not even 4 years ago. Now that is depressing.

We have to stay up at all costs. Or next season will be very embarrassing.

We could have all 4 of these fixtures..

1) Reading v Sutton United
2) Fleetwood v Reading
3) Reading v Morecambe
4) Accrington Stanley v Reading

Who would actually fancy watching those? Be lucky if we had 7k playing any of them teams at home


OR

Reading v Swindon
Reading v Oxford
Reading v Portsmouth
Reading v Ipswich
Reading v Derby
Reading v Sheffield Wednesday
Reading v Gillingham
Reading v Wycombe
Reading v Sunderland
Reading v Cambridge
Reading v Cheltenham
Forest Green v Reading

I hope to god we don’t go down but no one really knows what that would mean to us as a club. If the owner pulls out we could as easily fold in the Championship as we would in leagues 1 and 2.

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Re: Relegation

by windermereROYAL » 23 Jan 2022 19:02

I would anticipate that we need 46-48 points to stay up this year, 24-26 points from 19 games is less than 1.4 points a game, but if recent form is anything to go by even that could be beyond us.
We will have a decent run again soon, I`m confident of that, might have to wait till after QPR though.

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Re: Relegation

by Zip » 23 Jan 2022 19:10

windermereROYAL I would anticipate that we need 46-48 points to stay up this year, 24-26 points from 19 games is less than 1.4 points a game, but if recent form is anything to go by even that could be beyond us.
We will have a decent run again soon, I`m confident of that, might have to wait till after QPR though.


Can’t see us needing that many. We may well stay up on 40 points especially if Derby are badly weakened or go under in the next week.


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Re: Relegation

by paultheroyal » 23 Jan 2022 20:11

windermereROYAL I would anticipate that we need 46-48 points to stay up this year, 24-26 points from 19 games is less than 1.4 points a game, but if recent form is anything to go by even that could be beyond us.
We will have a decent run again soon, I`m confident of that, might have to wait till after QPR though.


Not a cat in hells chance you will need that many points this season. Can see 42 being the bar this year and that’s pushing it.

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Re: Relegation

by fred sharpes nose » 23 Jan 2022 20:41

Sky Bet Championship Relegation 21/22
Barnsley. 2/9.
Derby. 2/7.
Reading. 2/5.
Peterborough. 10/11.
Cardiff. 4/1.
Hull. 12/1.
Bristol City. 14/1.
Birmingham. 22/1.

Even with our 6 points back we'd still be a point behind Hull and worse goal difference

Derby will be confident of catching up an 8 point gap in 19 games

Posh see us as their chance of survival

I reckon 2 from Royals Posh Bluebirds

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Re: Relegation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 23 Jan 2022 21:25

fred sharpes nose Sky Bet Championship Relegation 21/22
Barnsley. 2/9.
Derby. 2/7.
Reading. 2/5.
Peterborough. 10/11.
Cardiff. 4/1.
Hull. 12/1.
Bristol City. 14/1.
Birmingham. 22/1.

Even with our 6 points back we'd still be a point behind Hull and worse goal difference

Derby will be confident of catching up an 8 point gap in 19 games

Posh see us as their chance of survival

I reckon 2 from Royals Posh Bluebirds


Barnsley, Derby and Peterborough for me and even if Derby were to get out of it then I'd say Cardiff before us. We score goals and Cardiff don't exactly look they are much better off than what we are right now and they have struggled for goals all season.

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Re: Relegation

by Snowflake Royal » 23 Jan 2022 22:36

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windermereROYAL I would anticipate that we need 46-48 points to stay up this year, 24-26 points from 19 games is less than 1.4 points a game, but if recent form is anything to go by even that could be beyond us.
We will have a decent run again soon, I`m confident of that, might have to wait till after QPR though.


Can’t see us needing that many. We may well stay up on 40 points especially if Derby are badly weakened or go under in the next week.

When has 40 ever been good enough before? That seems hella low. We should really gone with 47 under Gomes, that was a weak year.


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Re: Relegation

by Zip » 23 Jan 2022 23:01

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windermereROYAL I would anticipate that we need 46-48 points to stay up this year, 24-26 points from 19 games is less than 1.4 points a game, but if recent form is anything to go by even that could be beyond us.
We will have a decent run again soon, I`m confident of that, might have to wait till after QPR though.


Can’t see us needing that many. We may well stay up on 40 points especially if Derby are badly weakened or go under in the next week.

When has 40 ever been good enough before? That seems hella low. We should really gone with 47 under Gomes, that was a weak year.


It’s incredibly low but when you look at Peterborough third from bottom with just 19 points from 25 games they are not close to averaging a point per game ergo.......if they improve and average a point a game between now and the end of the season it only takes them to 40 points. Their goal difference is already -30 after just 25 games....

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Re: Relegation

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2022 08:25

Teams in relegation quite often improve as crunch time hits.

We have talk most years of how it might be a record low to survive this time.

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Re: Relegation

by Stranded » 24 Jan 2022 09:39

Derby are still pressure free and expect they will get some confidence if/when a takeover/preferred bidder is sorted this week but, if they get to within a point or two of safety then it will be a different ball game - it's one thing talking about the great escape, but a very different thing when it is actually in touching distance and you suddenly become favourites to avoid the drop.

Be interesting* to see, who if anyone leaves this week.

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Re: Relegation

by windermereROYAL » 24 Jan 2022 10:54

No way on earth will 40-42 points e enough, Derby would need 26 points from 19, even if the lose a couple of players they have more than enough quality to get that, 46-48 points would be very nearly 2 points a game which i think is beyond them.


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Re: Relegation

by Zip » 24 Jan 2022 11:15

windermereROYAL No way on earth will 40-42 points e enough, Derby would need 26 points from 19, even if the lose a couple of players they have more than enough quality to get that, 46-48 points would be very nearly 2 points a game which i think is beyond them.



Barnsley won’t get 40 points. I doubt Peterborough will. Derby are another matter.

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Re: Relegation

by RG30 » 24 Jan 2022 11:23

FiveThirtyEight have us ranked the second worst team in the Championship. On current form and performances that sounds about right.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/championship/

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Re: Relegation

by Dixie Norm » 24 Jan 2022 11:46

RG30 FiveThirtyEight have us ranked the second worst team in the Championship. On current form and performances that sounds about right.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/so ... mpionship/


They have us at 48/52 for surviving the drop. Sounds about right to me

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Re: Relegation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Jan 2022 11:49

I can't see Barnsley or Peterborough getting 40 points, but I imagine 43 points will be enough to keep us safe.

I think we will get that, it's effectively another 7 wins which is more than doable with our squad and with more players returning as well. With Joao returning and Meite coming back in the next couple of months, you'd anticipate there are enough goals in the team to see us survive.

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Re: Relegation

by URZZZZ » 24 Jan 2022 11:53

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windermereROYAL No way on earth will 40-42 points e enough, Derby would need 26 points from 19, even if the lose a couple of players they have more than enough quality to get that, 46-48 points would be very nearly 2 points a game which i think is beyond them.



Barnsley won’t get 40 points. I doubt Peterborough will. Derby are another matter.


To be fair Hull started the season off with 2 wins in 16 and just 9 points. They’re now sitting with 8 wins in 27 and 29 points - I’m not sure anyone would have predicted that so whilst it looks unlikely, there’s always a chance Peterborough or Barnsley could go on one of those runs - as we all know, momentum is a huge factor

We seemingly have had our good run (5 wins in 6) and perhaps Derby have too

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Re: Relegation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Jan 2022 12:02

I think Hull have a better side than both Peterborough and Barnsley though and I think momentum is exactly the reason they went down in their catastrophic season a couple of years ago as well. They lost their 2 best players but most of their other players were still of Championship quality, just probably bottom half which is where they are now.

I just don't think Peterborough or Barnsley have the quality for this level to be fair. They could get out of it with a good run, but I see that as far less likely than Hull, or even ourselves and Cardiff.

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Re: Relegation

by URZZZZ » 24 Jan 2022 12:48

YorkshireRoyal99 I think Hull have a better side than both Peterborough and Barnsley though and I think momentum is exactly the reason they went down in their catastrophic season a couple of years ago as well. They lost their 2 best players but most of their other players were still of Championship quality, just probably bottom half which is where they are now.

I just don't think Peterborough or Barnsley have the quality for this level to be fair. They could get out of it with a good run, but I see that as far less likely than Hull, or even ourselves and Cardiff.


Unfortunately we saw a good run of Barnsley about this time last season! How far they’ve fallen, clearly them and Ismael were just a good match

Do find it strange that us, Barnsley and Cardiff were all promotion chasing sides last season (well, Cardiff briefly), and yet are the three teams in a relegation dogfight this year. The common theme being none of the the three sides were anything close to being consistent last season and all relied on one mega run to propel themselves up

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