by Snowflake Royal » 02 Oct 2019 07:54
by Forbury Lion » 02 Oct 2019 11:16
by Vision » 02 Oct 2019 11:20
Forbury Lion Back in the Pardew days, You had Alan Pardew ex attacker as manager and Martin Allen ex defender as assistant.
Pardew actually said on BBC Berks that Allen used to concentrate on the strikers in training and Pardew the defence, It makes sense as by knowing their own playing areas well they can advise those they would have been up against how to exploit them.
With this in mind, Maybe O'Shea is there to train the attackers on how to exploit a defence rather than the defenders on how to play like he did.
by Snowflake Royal » 02 Oct 2019 11:23
by Sutekh » 02 Oct 2019 13:41
Snowflake Royal What's the soonest Gomes' record can be worse than Clement's?
by Forbury Lion » 02 Oct 2019 15:27
wasn't Pardew more of an attacking midfielder and Allen more of a defensive midfielder?VisionForbury Lion Back in the Pardew days, You had Alan Pardew ex attacker as manager and Martin Allen ex defender as assistant.
Pardew actually said on BBC Berks that Allen used to concentrate on the strikers in training and Pardew the defence, It makes sense as by knowing their own playing areas well they can advise those they would have been up against how to exploit them.
With this in mind, Maybe O'Shea is there to train the attackers on how to exploit a defence rather than the defenders on how to play like he did.
Martin Allen and Alan Pardew were both midfielders.
by Forbury Lion » 02 Oct 2019 15:28
Is it worth comparing their stats from the start of PC's final season and JG's fin... er current season?SutekhSnowflake Royal What's the soonest Gomes' record can be worse than Clement's?
As of today I make it that the management record for PC and JG (for LEAGUE games only) at Reading is
Mr Clement
P 28 W 6 D 8 L 14 win ratio = 21.43% - points = 0.92ppg
Mr Gomes
P 33 W 8 D 12 L 13 win ratio 24.24% - points = 1.09ppg
Therefore I reckon it’ll take another 5 games without a win for the win ratio to drop below 21.43%
by Vision » 02 Oct 2019 15:33
Forbury Lionwasn't Pardew more of an attacking midfielder and Allen more of a defensive midfielder?VisionForbury Lion Back in the Pardew days, You had Alan Pardew ex attacker as manager and Martin Allen ex defender as assistant.
Pardew actually said on BBC Berks that Allen used to concentrate on the strikers in training and Pardew the defence, It makes sense as by knowing their own playing areas well they can advise those they would have been up against how to exploit them.
With this in mind, Maybe O'Shea is there to train the attackers on how to exploit a defence rather than the defenders on how to play like he did.
Martin Allen and Alan Pardew were both midfielders.
by Hound » 02 Oct 2019 15:34
Forbury LionIs it worth comparing their stats from the start of PC's final season and JG's fin... er current season?SutekhSnowflake Royal What's the soonest Gomes' record can be worse than Clement's?
As of today I make it that the management record for PC and JG (for LEAGUE games only) at Reading is
Mr Clement
P 28 W 6 D 8 L 14 win ratio = 21.43% - points = 0.92ppg
Mr Gomes
P 33 W 8 D 12 L 13 win ratio 24.24% - points = 1.09ppg
Therefore I reckon it’ll take another 5 games without a win for the win ratio to drop below 21.43%
by Ascotexgunner » 02 Oct 2019 15:50
Snowflake Royal Told you all John O'Shea was a waste of space.
No shape, no organisation, no team work, no clue. Moore's got even worse. The full backs don't defend. Everyone is running around like headless chickens trying to plug gaps and leaving bigger ones.
by Hound » 02 Oct 2019 15:52
AscotexgunnerSnowflake Royal Told you all John O'Shea was a waste of space.
No shape, no organisation, no team work, no clue. Moore's got even worse. The full backs don't defend. Everyone is running around like headless chickens trying to plug gaps and leaving bigger ones.
I have to agree, how many times does the ball come out from a clearance and theres a gaping hole between the full backs and the centre backs. Last night it was the reverse, both Centrebacks seems to be where the full backs should be.....Its utterly appalling how we defend.
W have 4 decent centrebacks at this club and they are looking utter garbage with the system (if there is indeed a system) They seem to be marking space most of the time.
by Ascotexgunner » 02 Oct 2019 16:14
HoundAscotexgunnerSnowflake Royal Told you all John O'Shea was a waste of space.
No shape, no organisation, no team work, no clue. Moore's got even worse. The full backs don't defend. Everyone is running around like headless chickens trying to plug gaps and leaving bigger ones.
I have to agree, how many times does the ball come out from a clearance and theres a gaping hole between the full backs and the centre backs. Last night it was the reverse, both Centrebacks seems to be where the full backs should be.....Its utterly appalling how we defend.
W have 4 decent centrebacks at this club and they are looking utter garbage with the system (if there is indeed a system) They seem to be marking space most of the time.
Its the fact that it happens over and over and over again that is bloody killing me whilst watching us.
Charlton (2nd half) rinsed us in the FB positions, Blackburn all match - Fulham - first goal the same thing again. Seeing the highlights of Fulhams first goal, I think we had 7 men back and yet Cairney completely alone in the D
The FBs are just stuck in no mans land. Too far forward to defend, and too far back to get crosses in
by Sutekh » 02 Oct 2019 16:26
by Snowflake Royal » 02 Oct 2019 17:30
HoundForbury LionIs it worth comparing their stats from the start of PC's final season and JG's fin... er current season?Sutekh
As of today I make it that the management record for PC and JG (for LEAGUE games only) at Reading is
Mr Clement
P 28 W 6 D 8 L 14 win ratio = 21.43% - points = 0.92ppg
Mr Gomes
P 33 W 8 D 12 L 13 win ratio 24.24% - points = 1.09ppg
Therefore I reckon it’ll take another 5 games without a win for the win ratio to drop below 21.43%
I make PCs P20 W4 D6 L10
JG P10 W2 D2 L6
so both at 20% Win. JG 8 pmts from 10 games (0. 8 ), PC slightly better at 18 from 20 (0.9)
by Hound » 02 Oct 2019 17:34
by Snowflake Royal » 02 Oct 2019 17:53
Hound Of course it ms easy to fit stats to suit your agenda, but I think it was fairly recognised that we were slowly improving under PC
I’m guessing PCs last 10 were significantly better than JGs last 10
Gomes has undoubtedly gone backwards this season
by Hound » 02 Oct 2019 17:56
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