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Footballing philosophy

by Linden Jones' Tash » 14 Oct 2019 18:16

Does anyone know what Bowen's footballing principles are?

He used the word 'pragmatic' in one of the (pretty poor actually) interviews on social media, as well as intensity and enthusiasm.

Am I reading too much into this and thinking we will be more direct?

I'd be interested in any thoughts on what the plan might be, playing wise

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Franchise FC » 14 Oct 2019 18:42

Sounds like ‘if the ball needs to go, it goes’

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by SCIAG » 14 Oct 2019 19:31

Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?

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by Victor Meldrew » 14 Oct 2019 19:38

SCIAG Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?


Just being picky but Arnautovic isn't little.
Stoke did however have Bojan who is, but may well have been a Pulis signing.

I was trying to think of full-backs who became successful managers and I don't think there have been many.
Sir Alf Ramsey for one but then we have also seen Gary Neville.:? :?

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Uke » 14 Oct 2019 20:24

Linden Jones' Tash Does anyone know what Bowen's footballing principles are?

He used the word 'pragmatic' in one of the (pretty poor actually) interviews on social media, as well as intensity and enthusiasm.

Am I reading too much into this and thinking we will be more direct?

I'd be interested in any thoughts on what the plan might be, playing wise


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Re: Footballing philosophy

by sandman » 14 Oct 2019 22:37

Couldn't care less. Let's win matches.

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Lower West » 14 Oct 2019 22:41

Linden Jones' Tash I'd be interested in any thoughts on what the plan might be, playing wise


A higher defensive line would be a good start.

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by Millsy » 14 Oct 2019 22:49

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by royalp-we » 14 Oct 2019 22:59

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SCIAG Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?


Just being picky but Arnautovic isn't little.
Stoke did however have Bojan who is, but may well have been a Pulis signing.

I was trying to think of full-backs who became successful managers and I don't think there have been many.
Sir Alf Ramsey for one but then we have also seen Gary Neville.:? :?


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Re: Footballing philosophy

by URZZZZ » 14 Oct 2019 23:21

Get the ball forward as quickly as possible but logically, whilst retaining structure and balance throughout the team. Scrap tippy tappy pass round the back nonsense, you can't score doing that. Make sure each pass is played with a purpose and not for the sake of passing

Press and harry the other team whilst they're on the ball, give them no time to even think

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Linden Jones' Tash » 15 Oct 2019 08:06

URZZZZ Get the ball forward as quickly as possible but logically, whilst retaining structure and balance throughout the team. Scrap tippy tappy pass round the back nonsense, you can't score doing that. Make sure each pass is played with a purpose and not for the sake of passing

Press and harry the other team whilst they're on the ball, give them no time to even think


Thanks, I'd be happy with that.

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by SCIAG » 15 Oct 2019 08:08

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SCIAG Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?


Just being picky but Arnautovic isn't little.
Stoke did however have Bojan who is, but may well have been a Pulis signing.

I was trying to think of full-backs who became successful managers and I don't think there have been many.
Sir Alf Ramsey for one but then we have also seen Gary Neville.:? :?

Fair enough.

What about Steve Clarke? :wink:

More seriously, didn’t Shankly, Paisley and Fagan all play as full backs or the equivalent?

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Stranded » 15 Oct 2019 08:14

Linden Jones' Tash Does anyone know what Bowen's footballing principles are?

He used the word 'pragmatic' in one of the (pretty poor actually) interviews on social media, as well as intensity and enthusiasm.

Am I reading too much into this and thinking we will be more direct?

I'd be interested in any thoughts on what the plan might be, playing wise


Essentially pragmatic in this sense means he isn't completly wedded to one way of playing - he will set the team out to play a certain style but will tweak it to negate the opposition and expose their weaknesses.


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by Millsy » 15 Oct 2019 09:02

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Linden Jones' Tash Does anyone know what Bowen's footballing principles are?

He used the word 'pragmatic' in one of the (pretty poor actually) interviews on social media, as well as intensity and enthusiasm.

Am I reading too much into this and thinking we will be more direct?

I'd be interested in any thoughts on what the plan might be, playing wise


Essentially pragmatic in this sense means he isn't completly wedded to one way of playing - he will set the team out to play a certain style but will tweak it to negate the opposition and expose their weaknesses.


I see it more as playing nto the strengths of the players, not doing anything fancy they're not 100% comfortable with.

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Victor Meldrew » 15 Oct 2019 15:33

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SCIAG Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?


Just being picky but Arnautovic isn't little.
Stoke did however have Bojan who is, but may well have been a Pulis signing.

I was trying to think of full-backs who became successful managers and I don't think there have been many.
Sir Alf Ramsey for one but then we have also seen Gary Neville.:? :?

Fair enough.

What about Steve Clarke? :wink:

More seriously, didn’t Shankly, Paisley and Fagan all play as full backs or the equivalent?


Not sure about Joe but I think the other two were what is known as half- backs (midfielders).
Going so far back in time seems to have proved my point.

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Fox Talbot » 15 Oct 2019 17:12

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SCIAG Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?


Just being picky but Arnautovic isn't little.
Stoke did however have Bojan who is, but may well have been a Pulis signing.

I was trying to think of full-backs who became successful managers and I don't think there have been many.
Sir Alf Ramsey for one but then we have also seen Gary Neville.:? :?


Branfoot, Wenger, Graham Taylor, yep I'm struggling now, it's all shouty centre-halves and snidey strikers. Terry Cooper maybe. Frank Clark was always pretty rank.

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Linden Jones' Tash » 19 Oct 2019 18:40

Ok, that was interesting.

No passing out from the back.

Trying to play long and with more urgency.

Actually his BBCRB post match assessment was pretty much what I witnessed, so credit for not BSing what actually happened

Also paraphrased Napoleaon vis Graham Taylor, "better to be a lucky manager than a good manager"

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Hound » 19 Oct 2019 19:10

Yeah I liked what I saw. No pointless arsing about. Still played some nice stuff but it was quick and purposeful

Much better

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Lower West » 19 Oct 2019 21:38

With less tippy tappy. We played a higher defensive line! :lol:

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Re: Footballing philosophy

by Cape Town Royal » 19 Oct 2019 23:11

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SCIAG Safe to say he’s probably pretty similar to Mark Hughes. Think it would be difficult to pin down Hughes’ philosophy - his Blackburn team were counter attackers based around Bellamy, Pedersen and Bentley, but his Stoke team were more about little technical players like Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

So I’d guess he’s not wedded to one particular approach but will try to get the best out of the players we have?


Just being picky but Arnautovic isn't little.
Stoke did however have Bojan who is, but may well have been a Pulis signing.

I was trying to think of full-backs who became successful managers and I don't think there have been many.
Sir Alf Ramsey for one but then we have also seen Gary Neville.:? :?

Fair enough.

What about Steve Clarke? :wink:

More seriously, didn’t Shankly, Paisley and Fagan all play as full backs or the equivalent?



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