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by WoodleyRoyal » 21 Feb 2020 11:31

apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but an interesting article caught my eye the other day. We were named dropped by some ESPN reporter where we were compared to Atlanta in Serie A.

I have no idea how he knows what our wage bill is, but apparently it's the same as champions league knockout stage team Atlanta who finished 3rd last season. If true then it just goes to show how underperforming we are.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/witch ... ague-side/
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Re: wage bill

by Nevpay » 21 Feb 2020 11:32

Or how over performing they are?

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Re: wage bill

by JimmytheJim » 21 Feb 2020 12:08

They've got some relatively big names. I'd be enormously surprised if this is true.

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by Hendo » 21 Feb 2020 12:13

Even if it is true, does it really matter?

Everyone knows that wages in England are inflated.

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by JimmytheJim » 21 Feb 2020 12:19

Reports put their annual wage bill at around 35 million.

That would put our average salary at something like 30k per week.

Which is clearly bullshit.


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by Snowflake Royal » 21 Feb 2020 12:44

JimmytheJim Reports put their annual wage bill at around 35 million.

That would put our average salary at something like 30k per week.

Which is clearly bullshit.

Our wage bill has been lower than 35m for a while, but not a lot. It certainly won't be much lower than 25m. Probably somewhere between 28 and 32.


Worth remembering the Championship is in the top 10 wealthiest divisions in Europe.

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by Franchise FC » 21 Feb 2020 13:32

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JimmytheJim Reports put their annual wage bill at around 35 million.

That would put our average salary at something like 30k per week.

Which is clearly bullshit.

Our wage bill has been lower than 35m for a while, but not a lot. It certainly won't be much lower than 25m. Probably somewhere between 28 and 32.


Worth remembering the Championship is in the top 10 wealthiest divisions in Europe.

Is the 28-32 just the playing staff, or the total wage bill ?

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by Snowflake Royal » 21 Feb 2020 13:37

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JimmytheJim Reports put their annual wage bill at around 35 million.

That would put our average salary at something like 30k per week.

Which is clearly bullshit.

Our wage bill has been lower than 35m for a while, but not a lot. It certainly won't be much lower than 25m. Probably somewhere between 28 and 32.


Worth remembering the Championship is in the top 10 wealthiest divisions in Europe.

Is the 28-32 just the playing staff, or the total wage bill ?

I think the accounts stuff is usually total not just playing. And even playing would include all the youth etc.

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by OLLIE KEARNS » 21 Feb 2020 13:57

Don't we have one of the highest wages / turnover ratios in the league with wages at around £30m ? My take with FFP and the ground sale is that we have two more seasons to spend at these levels before we have to undertake significant cost cutting actions. For example, assume we breakeven this year with the ground sale, then lose £39 over the next two seasons. This year then drops out of the numbers and we'd have to break even the following year.
There are other variations of course such as selling the odd player to reduce run rate losses as well as integrating more lower cost youngsters and overseas purchases into the team. One way or another the current underlying spend isn't viable in the long term though.


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by Forbury Lion » 21 Feb 2020 14:18

Perhaps we should start recruiting decent Italian players as clearly we can afford to compete on wages!

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by Maneki Neko » 21 Feb 2020 14:38

thought we had managed to get down to around 25m before the new owners, but will have gone up significantly since then imo

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by From Despair To Where? » 21 Feb 2020 15:52

This is from last season and Atalanta don't seem to be listed but they are not one of the bigger clubs (on par with Sampdoria, Bologna and Genoa) and this suggests that outside the big 6, Serie A clubs don't actually pay that much.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/675470/average-serie-a-salary-by-team/

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Found figures for Atalanta

https://www.statista.com/statistics/939536/average-annual-first-team-player-salary-atalanta-football-italy/

It's behind a paywall but average wage from last season is about £16,000/wk.

Total wage is €34.5m a year. 5 players account for about €14m of that.

Atalanta's average attendance is 17,800

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by SCIAG » 21 Feb 2020 19:46

Forbury Lion Perhaps we should start recruiting decent Italian players as clearly we can afford to compete on wages!

Well, yeah, that’s why our squad (and every other squad in the Championship) is full of foreigners. Puscas is a prime example. On a global scale we’re extremely rich and we flaunt that.

Our forward line is ex-PSG, ex-Inter, and ex-...Brighton. English players are much more expensive than their continental equivalents.


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by Jack Celliers » 21 Feb 2020 20:15

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JimmytheJim Reports put their annual wage bill at around 35 million.

That would put our average salary at something like 30k per week.

Which is clearly bullshit.

Our wage bill has been lower than 35m for a while, but not a lot. It certainly won't be much lower than 25m. Probably somewhere between 28 and 32.


Worth remembering the Championship is in the top 10 wealthiest divisions in Europe.


It depends what measure you use. La Liga and the Premiership are definitely bigger than the Championship. The French one, Serie A and the Bundesliga are probably bigger (more people watch the Championship but there are more games than in Germany), That's it. So there is no real surprise that a phenomenally over-spending Championship side might be claim to have a higher wage bill than an over-performing Italian side.

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Re: wage bill

by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Feb 2020 23:16

Isn't the average attendance in Germany massive?

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Re: wage bill

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Feb 2020 23:40

Iirc when I saw the article a few years ago it was something like

La Liga
PL
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
Serie A
Dutch
Russian
???
Championship

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Re: wage bill

by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Feb 2020 23:54

Looked it up and Bundesliga is top by a fair bit - average is 40k+ - 2nd Prem.
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by From Despair To Where? » 21 Feb 2020 23:55

Last season it was

Bundesliga
Premiership
La Liga
Serie A
Ligue 1
Bundesliga 2
Championship
Eredivisie.

Bundesliga 2 benefited from Koln and Hamburg both averaging close to 50,000 for home games.
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by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Feb 2020 23:56

The Bundesliga, with an average attendance of 43,302 between 2013-2018, is the most followed, followed by the English Premier League's average of 36,675.11 Apr 2019

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by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Feb 2020 23:59

From looking to get tickets for Koln in the past, they're basically impossible to acquire with a long waiting list, which I think goes for most of the teams. They're clearing doing something right there - surprised the German teams aren't a bigger force and competing more with the Prem for money.

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