BFTG Norwich

[URZZZZ]

Think thats harsh on Semedo - he's not a lone striker or wherever he was played as last night and where he's been played since being here. He's a half decent footballer but I personally wouldn't be playing him as much as Pauno is. He seems to see him as a real utility player - I think he's far more limited.

Rather like Alkuo I'm struggling to justify his inclusion in the team. All round contribution is lacking. Nor does he seem to command a settled playing position within the formation.

In fairness to Semedo he is being played all over the pitch. Not helping him settle.I see him as a bench option when the injuries ease.

Not quite sure your first part is true
Barring Wednesday, Semedo has pretty much played every game at CAM and other than Wycombe (off the bench) and Blackburn, he’s flattered to deceive

For me, he should be 4th choice in the position he plays, behind Olise, Swift when he’s fit, and Aluko yet he seems to be starting most games there

I don’t think he’s an awful player but it’s hard to grasp what he’s particularly good at

[Zip]

Rather like Alkuo I'm struggling to justify his inclusion in the team. All round contribution is lacking. Nor does he seem to command a settled playing position within the formation.

In fairness to Semedo he is being played all over the pitch. Not helping him settle.I see him as a bench option when the injuries ease.

Not quite sure your first part is true
Barring Wednesday, Semedo has pretty much played every game at CAM and other than Wycombe (off the bench) and Blackburn, he’s flattered to deceive

For me, he should be 4th choice in the position he plays, behind Olise, Swift when he’s fit, and Aluko yet he seems to be starting most games there

I don’t think he’s an awful player but it’s hard to grasp what he’s particularly good at

So he has already played in three different positions in the short amount of time he’s been at the club.
How many others have had to do that? I am far from convinced by him and am not sure what to make of him but he needs to be played in a settled position.

[URZZZZ]

In fairness to Semedo he is being played all over the pitch. Not helping him settle.I see him as a bench option when the injuries ease.

Not quite sure your first part is true
Barring Wednesday, Semedo has pretty much played every game at CAM and other than Wycombe (off the bench) and Blackburn, he’s flattered to deceive

For me, he should be 4th choice in the position he plays, behind Olise, Swift when he’s fit, and Aluko yet he seems to be starting most games there

I don’t think he’s an awful player but it’s hard to grasp what he’s particularly good at

So he has already played in three different positions in the short amount of time he’s been at the club.
How many others have had to do that? I am far from convinced by him and am not sure what to make of him but he needs to be played in a settled position.

Semedo has started 10 games for us
9 in CAM
1 in ST
He dropped back to CM in the second half against Sheffield Wednesday

I’d argue that’s a pretty settled position tbf

It’s a shame because he was so good at Blackburn, really thought he’d be a cracking player but looking more and more like that was just a one off
Still, may have some use in the second half of the season, our squad isn’t massive

[SCIAG]

Hasn’t Semedo started on the wing for us?

The guy has a habit of looking a bit rubbish but making important contributions. He’s not a flashy player but his end product it there. Obviously not a striker though.

[karbota]

Thought we did ok, the ref was poor. Disappointed that we are still Kowtowing to the BLM party, pleased to see that some of the Norwich players stand tall. Sky pundit said our goal was handball?.

[Snowflake Royal]

Rather like Alkuo I'm struggling to justify his inclusion in the team. All round contribution is lacking. Nor does he seem to command a settled playing position within the formation.

In fairness to Semedo he is being played all over the pitch. Not helping him settle.I see him as a bench option when the injuries ease.

Not quite sure your first part is true
Barring Wednesday, Semedo has pretty much played every game at CAM and other than Wycombe (off the bench) and Blackburn, he’s flattered to deceive

For me, he should be 4th choice in the position he plays, behind Olise, Swift when he’s fit, and Aluko yet he seems to be starting most games there

I don’t think he’s an awful player but it’s hard to grasp what he’s particularly good at

Semedo has easily done more than Aluko.

[URZZZZ]

In fairness to Semedo he is being played all over the pitch. Not helping him settle.I see him as a bench option when the injuries ease.

Not quite sure your first part is true
Barring Wednesday, Semedo has pretty much played every game at CAM and other than Wycombe (off the bench) and Blackburn, he’s flattered to deceive

For me, he should be 4th choice in the position he plays, behind Olise, Swift when he’s fit, and Aluko yet he seems to be starting most games there

I don’t think he’s an awful player but it’s hard to grasp what he’s particularly good at

Semedo has easily done more than Aluko.

He probably has although I’d question the “easily” part - but that wasn’t what I said regardless, I said I’d rather Aluko than Semedo play at CAM, and they probably both stand at 3rd/4th choice

[Millsy]

Everybody - 7

Seriously that was a gutsy decent try. I’m proud of and happy with the boys. Can’t fault them.

Ok, extra for Rafaels great saves.

Less for Rino’s brain dead Xmas gift. But that’s the price we now accept when trying to pass it around, suck in players and create space to attack.

Harsh penalty. The guy 100% dived. Impressive back arching. Not to say there was no contact tho, but it doesn’t mean he didn’t exaggerate ridiculously. Tosser.

Having said that I don’t mind, they deserved the win against our reserve side.

Lastly I don’t get this allowing female players in. I get the 5 subs thing but that’s surely dangerous. Couldn’t we bring in someone from our women’s team?

[morganb]

Lastly I don’t get this allowing female players in. I get the 5 subs thing but that’s surely dangerous. Couldn’t we bring in someone from our women’s team?

That wasn't a female player for Norwich - that was Todd Cantwell

[Jagermesiter1871]

Not quite sure your first part is true
Barring Wednesday, Semedo has pretty much played every game at CAM and other than Wycombe (off the bench) and Blackburn, he’s flattered to deceive

For me, he should be 4th choice in the position he plays, behind Olise, Swift when he’s fit, and Aluko yet he seems to be starting most games there

I don’t think he’s an awful player but it’s hard to grasp what he’s particularly good at

So he has already played in three different positions in the short amount of time he’s been at the club.
How many others have had to do that? I am far from convinced by him and am not sure what to make of him but he needs to be played in a settled position.

Semedo has started 10 games for us
9 in CAM
1 in ST
He dropped back to CM in the second half against Sheffield Wednesday

I’d argue that’s a pretty settled position tbf

It’s a shame because he was so good at Blackburn, really thought he’d be a cracking player but looking more and more like that was just a one off
Still, may have some use in the second half of the season, our squad isn’t massive

Isn't he actually a CDM but obvs hasn't had a sniff there.

[Snowflake Royal]

I don't think he's defensive midfielder no matter what we were thought or told when he arrived.

He's quite technical, attack minded and not very bulky or strong.

I'm sure he can fill in there. I think he's fairly utility rather than specialist.

[Millsy]

Lastly I don’t get this allowing female players in. I get the 5 subs thing but that’s surely dangerous. Couldn’t we bring in someone from our women’s team?

That wasn't a female player for Norwich - that was Todd Cantwell

Oh that Cantwell player is a man!?

Got it, sorry.

[Westwood52]

To play devil's advocate and mentioned elsewhere - there were few complaints from the team and Moore could be clearly seen on one close up saying "Sorry boys" as they set up for the penalty. He knew he had screwed up.

Didn't see that but it looks like Moore and the team may have been conned by the cheat too.

Both Sky and Quest questioned the penalty in their analysis. Consensus was that if there was any contact it was minimal and not enough to bring the player down and/or justify a penalty. All seemed to think we were hard done by and that the player had effectively conned the ref. On Quest Michael Appleton pointed out that Aarons made a big issue of holding his shin in pain in view of the ref despite the fact that if there was any contact at all it was a 'brush across the top of the foot' and nowhere near his shin. i.e. it was a blatant act of cheating which pretty much exonerated the ref who had to make a decision in real time.

Can they still suspend players for "successful deception of the referee"?

Yeah what happened to that.Does it only apply to the Prem ? The EFL dont really do much of a job do they.

[Lower West]

Less for Rino’s brain dead Xmas gift. But that’s the price we now accept when trying to pass it around, suck in players and create space to attack.

Attack? The opposition simply compresses the play. As we offer no threat in terms of pace upfront.

[Millsy]

Less for Rino’s brain dead Xmas gift. But that’s the price we now accept when trying to pass it around, suck in players and create space to attack.

Attack? The opposition simply compresses the play. As we offer no threat in terms of pace upfront.

At the moment yeah. I was going to suggest Pauno got it wrong in a match without strikers to employ this tactic, but when we have heavyweights like Joao and Meite up there it has worked more than it’s failed.

Are you saying it’s always a stupid idea to pass it around the back and invite the high press? I didn’t like it hence started the thread on it a few weeks back but I understand the thinking behind it now.

[SCIAG]

Less for Rino’s brain dead Xmas gift. But that’s the price we now accept when trying to pass it around, suck in players and create space to attack.

Attack? The opposition simply compresses the play. As we offer no threat in terms of pace upfront.

Bournemouth let Semedo in behind and conceded a penalty. Then they let Aluko in behind and conceded a goal. We’ve got plenty of pace.

[Snowball]

Less for Rino’s brain dead Xmas gift. But that’s the price we now accept when trying to pass it around, suck in players and create space to attack.

Attack? The opposition simply compresses the play. As we offer no threat in terms of pace upfront.

Bournemouth let Semedo in behind and conceded a penalty. Then they let Aluko in behind and conceded a goal. We’ve got plenty of pace.

Not sure if I’m expressing myself well enough on pace.

Sides like Norwich, Brentford, Bournemouth, Watford, Blackburn seem to have faster movement lots of runs, angles being made and a much higher overall tempo. Whether their one-shot fastest players are quicker than ours, I don’t know, but they seem (to me) to be hard to defend against not just because of their individual skill level but because of GROUP pace, or team-tempo

Reading OTOH have plenty of individual skill and they aren’t particularly slow, but it seems to me that we only move really quickly when we break.

In a general way we feel steadier, looking for the Olise wonder pass

The only memorable speed moment I can easily recall was Meite’s run for Joao’s goal on 90 minutes v Bristol. He covered the distance fast enough but, for me he wasn’t WOW off the mark

We don’t have either an out and out Speed-merchant (Barrow, Kebe, Long) OR the 5-6 attack-at-speed mentality.