St Pauli Why do refs put up with so much shit from players?
The abuse directed at the lino and ref following the penalty decision was terrible, and probably part of a plan to delay the penalty to put pressure on Joao.
Because they're gutless clowns
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2021 19:57
St Pauli Why do refs put up with so much shit from players?
The abuse directed at the lino and ref following the penalty decision was terrible, and probably part of a plan to delay the penalty to put pressure on Joao.
by Nameless » 24 Jan 2021 20:00
Snowflake RoyalZipbcubed By the way what a pass from Laurent to Ovie at the end. Outside of his right straight into his path. Even had Don Goodman purring
Yes it was and Ovie should have had a shot. He dwelt on the ball and the chance was gone.
No left foot and always has to take a touch and beat his man.
by bcubed » 24 Jan 2021 20:01
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Yep and both players got rightly booked for it as well.
Yep all too late though one of which was Ledson, and I could not believe that it was his first. Should buy a lottery ticket because he’s incredibly lucky.
If the ref had got cards out earlier I’m sure we would have created more chances.
Yep which is what Vic is not appreciating. Ledson repeatedly fouled to the point I mentioned it on here. Within minutes he put in his fifth cynical foul and still no card. By the time he was eventually booked it was too little too late.
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2021 20:04
HoundStrandedRoyal Rother I am very happy that he is the best goalscorer in the Championship and that he is scoring those goals for Reading but I don’t like Joao.
Forget the penalty misses he is a knob and sets a terrible example to the rest of the squad.
If only we could combine his ability with Baldock’s professionalism and work ethic.
Yet Joao appears to be very popular within the squad.
Surprised at you RR, would have had more respect for this view if raised after he scored rather than after one of the few poor performances he has had this season.
Obvs the original post is nonsense but interesting to see Pauno was basically critical of his body language and partly blamed the pen miss on it
Miss Puscas a fair bit I think at times like today. Has his faults but he is work rate is excellent - like a bigger and better Baldock. And he scores pens
I’ve no doubt Karbota would fully agree
by Zip » 24 Jan 2021 20:05
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2021 20:06
South Coast RoyalZipbcubed
Yep a bit odd from Vic. Loads of fouls with many of them cynical. Ledson was a very very lucky boy.
I think you are getting a bit soft in your old age Zip.
IIRC the medical staff didn't get on the pitch for either side -that's usually a reasonable guide as to whether it has been a particularly dirty game.
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2021 20:11
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I think you are getting a bit soft in your old age Zip.
IIRC the medical staff didn't get on the pitch for either side -that's usually a reasonable guide as to whether it has been a particularly dirty game.
There's a difference between dirty, with the intent of injuring the player, and cynical - fouling as much as you are allowed get away with, to stop a better player.
PNE were absolutely cynical, and the referee let them get away with it.
It's nothing to do with being "soft", there are laws in the game, PNE broke them continously, but because each individual foul wasn't reckless or violent that foul was being looked at on its own, rather than as part of a series.
Poor refereeing.
However, we still should have scored.
Two points - Swift needs to stop handing over the ball to somebody else. His frees were generally excellent, Aluko's was horrible.
And, after two penalty misses in a row - is it time to take Joao off penalties?
The ref gave 4 yellow cards and a penalty against Preston-what more do you want.?
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by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2021 20:12
NamelessSnowflake RoyalZip
Yes it was and Ovie should have had a shot. He dwelt on the ball and the chance was gone.
No left foot and always has to take a touch and beat his man.
Ovie has the most successful dribbles in the Championship.
by Nameless » 24 Jan 2021 21:29
Snowflake RoyalNamelessSnowflake Royal No left foot and always has to take a touch and beat his man.
Ovie has the most successful dribbles in the Championship.
Weird non sequiter
by CountryRoyal » 24 Jan 2021 22:10
NamelessSnowflake RoyalNameless
Ovie has the most successful dribbles in the Championship.
Weird non sequiter
Not weird
Not a non sequiter
Just a counter to your extremely negative view of him !
by Royal Rother » 24 Jan 2021 22:17
Snowflake RoyalHoundStranded
Yet Joao appears to be very popular within the squad.
Surprised at you RR, would have had more respect for this view if raised after he scored rather than after one of the few poor performances he has had this season.
Obvs the original post is nonsense but interesting to see Pauno was basically critical of his body language and partly blamed the pen miss on it
Miss Puscas a fair bit I think at times like today. Has his faults but he is work rate is excellent - like a bigger and better Baldock. And he scores pens
I’ve no doubt Karbota would fully agree
Joao spends most of most games ambling around, looking bored and throwing his arms in the air in exasperation with the odd sulk.
And he scores a shed ton of goals, produces moments of outstanding brilliance and sets up a few too.
He can be as big a twat as he likes as long as he's performing and he's been absolutely fantastic.
Would I prefer him to appear to have a better attitude on the pitch? Yeah, sure. I'm not too worried by it though.
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jan 2021 22:35
NamelessSnowflake RoyalNameless
Ovie has the most successful dribbles in the Championship.
Weird non sequiter
Not weird
Not a non sequiter
Just a counter to your extremely negative view of him !
by LUX » 24 Jan 2021 23:00
by Lower West » 24 Jan 2021 23:39
by Nameless » 24 Jan 2021 23:52
Snowflake RoyalNamelessSnowflake Royal Weird non sequiter
Not weird
Not a non sequiter
Just a counter to your extremely negative view of him !
Well it had nothing to do with the incident being discussed, but when you're in this mood there's no point talking to you.
by URZZZZ » 25 Jan 2021 00:19
by URZZZZ » 25 Jan 2021 00:30
HoundZipMid Sussex Royal Hasn't Swift missed a few pens in his time? Thinking that odd season when we scored a few rebounds from pens
Probably. Puscas would be my preferred choice but if he’s not on the pitch......
1 a long time ago if I remember rightly
by Greatwesternline » 25 Jan 2021 07:52
by SCIAG » 25 Jan 2021 09:43
Greatwesternline The ref can't book players until they've done series of fouls as individuals, unless they are bookable offences on their own. So not sure what more the red can do other than wait for individual players to tot up their fouls.
It's a known problem within the laws of the game that even the best sides exploit, including Barca and Althletico. Watch barca in the CL in a game they are really competing in and many of their players will individually commit 2-3 niggly fouls near the halfway line breaking up promising attacks. Yellow cards they do not make.
There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour including if a player:
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commits any other offence which interferes with or stops a promising attack except where the referee awards a penalty kick for an offence which was an attempt to play the ball
by Snowflake Royal » 25 Jan 2021 09:49
SCIAGGreatwesternline The ref can't book players until they've done series of fouls as individuals, unless they are bookable offences on their own. So not sure what more the red can do other than wait for individual players to tot up their fouls.
It's a known problem within the laws of the game that even the best sides exploit, including Barca and Althletico. Watch barca in the CL in a game they are really competing in and many of their players will individually commit 2-3 niggly fouls near the halfway line breaking up promising attacks. Yellow cards they do not make.
That’s explicitly a yellow card in the laws of the game:There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour including if a player:
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commits any other offence which interferes with or stops a promising attack except where the referee awards a penalty kick for an offence which was an attempt to play the ball