by windermereROYAL » 24 Nov 2021 07:22
by Stranded » 24 Nov 2021 07:28
by LUX » 24 Nov 2021 07:31
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Nov 2021 08:30
LUX I will always continue to support RFC, but yes, there are frequently disappointing moments. Very frequent.
But I guess that makes the good days better.
by Stranded » 24 Nov 2021 08:33
Snowflake RoyalLUX I will always continue to support RFC, but yes, there are frequently disappointing moments. Very frequent.
But I guess that makes the good days better.
What are good days, they ring a bell from the distant past...
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Nov 2021 08:35
StrandedSnowflake RoyalLUX I will always continue to support RFC, but yes, there are frequently disappointing moments. Very frequent.
But I guess that makes the good days better.
What are good days, they ring a bell from the distant past...
And they will come back at some point.
by Stranded » 24 Nov 2021 08:41
Snowflake RoyalStrandedSnowflake Royal What are good days, they ring a bell from the distant past...
And they will come back at some point.
Will it beat climate devastation and the next 7 managers and 2 owners though.
by NathStPaul » 24 Nov 2021 08:56
by Zip » 24 Nov 2021 09:09
by BraisingsteakRoyal » 24 Nov 2021 09:28
by The Green Programme » 24 Nov 2021 09:44
NathStPaul I have certainly had enough of going to games. Went to the Forest match for the first time since the restrictions had been lifted and didn't enjoy my experience. Game was decent enough but everything else was just awful. Beer was crap, food was shocking and obscenely expensive, the match day experience was dull and uninspiring much like the football most of the time. I won't be back for a while.
That being said, I am not going to just stop supporting the club. I still care very much about the teams success and will go out of my way to watch our games on TV or listen on the radio. I have just fallen out of love with the live experience I guess, can't justify spending that sort of money on the garbage currently being served up.
by Norfolk Royal » 24 Nov 2021 09:48
by windermereROYAL » 24 Nov 2021 09:49
The Green ProgrammeNathStPaul I have certainly had enough of going to games. Went to the Forest match for the first time since the restrictions had been lifted and didn't enjoy my experience. Game was decent enough but everything else was just awful. Beer was crap, food was shocking and obscenely expensive, the match day experience was dull and uninspiring much like the football most of the time. I won't be back for a while.
That being said, I am not going to just stop supporting the club. I still care very much about the teams success and will go out of my way to watch our games on TV or listen on the radio. I have just fallen out of love with the live experience I guess, can't justify spending that sort of money on the garbage currently being served up.
I travel from East Sussex for every home game. I am a season ticket holder.
I have supported the Club since aged 7 in 1970/71. I moved to Sussex in the 1980s.
Leaving home at 10.30am and returning at 10pm on a Saturday and getting back between midnight and 1am for a midweek game makes it a time consuming exercise.
I do think that in the past when in the lower leagues, the Cup games (for example) meant a lot more; just the chance of getting a draw against a ‘big Club’ was so exciting (Arsenal at home in 1972, Wolves at home and Southampton home and away in 1978 all treasured memories)
Wealdstone away in 1977 was not so much fun!
The Cup games added glamour to the season.
Now (apart from 2015) the cup games get in the way of our chase for the Prem and when we’re not chasing the Prem, the season becomes so flat.
Last night was really awful. One of the worst games I have seen for years and Saturday was only marginally better.
I cannot put my finger on what it is.
The 106 season (what a team, what a squad, every position taken by a top, top footballer and many positions covered by more than one) which was made all the sweeter by the heartbreak of the Walsall defeat at Cardiff that preceeded our rise with Pardew’’s and then Coppell’s team and (from Jamie Cureton, Martin Butler and John Salako to Kitson, Doyle, Lita et al)
They were (thus far - I am a believer) the pinnacle and it was so just that SJM was at the helm in those glory days. We can all have a moan about the Club and those involved but if we just take a step back and stop and think about what SJM did for the Club; it is beyond dreams.
We won the Championship twice. We broke the all time points record in doing so the first time and we finished 8th in the Prem.
This is Reading Football Club we are talking about.
When SJM took over, we were a basket case. And look what was achieved.
We had a soul throughout those glory days partly because of the painful ones that preceded them (I still run through the Rougier (I think) own goal at Cardiff in my head; watching the ball sail back and in - that was unjust, unfair and torturous)
Bolton at Wembley was even worse; with our special, special team that could really play and should’ve won the league that year (Osborne, Gooding and Nogan et al)
Today, for whatever reason, there is something missing; even though the quality of the players is right up there; and our owners are committed; and our manager is, on the whole, of good quality; it all seems so soulless and directionless right now.
Some of our football yesterday was just awful. The atmosphere, despite the seemingly endless enthusiasm (almost passion) of Club 1871, was often drab and grey and nondescript.
We need something; but I am not sure what it is that we need.
by NathStPaul » 24 Nov 2021 09:58
by Millsy » 24 Nov 2021 10:14
by Zip » 24 Nov 2021 10:16
NathStPaul I don't want to speak for anyone but I think the majority can accept losing games of football, we have all been around long enough to understand you cannot win every game and some seasons your team can lose far more than they win. What is hard/impossible to stomach is a lack of determination and effort. There has been a real lack of passion at our club for a number of seasons now, very rarely will you see us giving it a good go in games and camping in our opponents box. If we had thrown the kitchen sink at Sheffield United last night then none of us would be sitting here slagging off the team, we'd have been unlucky against what is a decent opposition. The fact is we played like getting the equaliser wasn't that important, that then causes the frustration amongst the supporters and rightly so.
Last night is the classic example of a lack of passion and commitment for me, the players didn't really look too concerned about being a goal down and neither did the manager. Sometimes in games of football you just have to go for it, we showed no sign of going for anything last night. It was drab, dour and uninspiring which is seemingly the new norm for the club. Look at our attendances, look how many never came back to watch football after the restrictions were lifted. People didn't and don't miss it, the players and club have to make the stay away supporters miss it and they just aren't.
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Nov 2021 10:21
StrandedSnowflake RoyalStranded
And they will come back at some point.
Will it beat climate devastation and the next 7 managers and 2 owners though.
Probably, they normally arrive when you least expect it - no-one saw the 106 coming (or even promotion that season) coming. At some point, something will just click - may be a few years away but we won't recognise it as a good time until it is nearly over.
by genome » 24 Nov 2021 10:22
BraisingsteakRoyal Yep - happened to me after the PO final - even the preceding season was an unbearable slog at times. The quality of football (and match day value/experience) has deteriorated over that sort of period IMHO - and therefore so did any 'connection' i ever felt to the club.
by genome » 24 Nov 2021 10:25
ZipNathStPaul I don't want to speak for anyone but I think the majority can accept losing games of football, we have all been around long enough to understand you cannot win every game and some seasons your team can lose far more than they win. What is hard/impossible to stomach is a lack of determination and effort. There has been a real lack of passion at our club for a number of seasons now, very rarely will you see us giving it a good go in games and camping in our opponents box. If we had thrown the kitchen sink at Sheffield United last night then none of us would be sitting here slagging off the team, we'd have been unlucky against what is a decent opposition. The fact is we played like getting the equaliser wasn't that important, that then causes the frustration amongst the supporters and rightly so.
Last night is the classic example of a lack of passion and commitment for me, the players didn't really look too concerned about being a goal down and neither did the manager. Sometimes in games of football you just have to go for it, we showed no sign of going for anything last night. It was drab, dour and uninspiring which is seemingly the new norm for the club. Look at our attendances, look how many never came back to watch football after the restrictions were lifted. People didn't and don't miss it, the players and club have to make the stay away supporters miss it and they just aren't.
Agreed.
by LUX » 24 Nov 2021 10:28
Norfolk Royal There's been more disappointment than good times following Reading for sure, but there's a certain nobility about it which you can play on with fans of other teams, that's the way I play it anyway.
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