Injury watch 2022/23

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by South Coast Royal » 03 Aug 2022 11:32

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Then it's shocking they've still not been able to sort it.


Tbf - It's just another one of these things that armchair pundits think is easy to fix but is actually extremely complicated.


Like saying it's "purely a factor of us signing players who are prone to injury"? :wink:


The trouble is now that the market we are in, if we want experienced players, is for those that are knocking on a bit and have probably had injury issues, e.g. Hutchinson, Dann, Long etc.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Elm Park Kid » 03 Aug 2022 13:42

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Then it's shocking they've still not been able to sort it.


Tbf - It's just another one of these things that armchair pundits think is easy to fix but is actually extremely complicated.


Like saying it's "purely a factor of us signing players who are prone to injury"? :wink:


That's what I mean though. An ignorant response to it would just be "Well, we need to stop buying players who get injured easily". But obviously that's just the gamble you take when you're entering in a market without the funds to get players with solid playing records.

It's up there with "We just need to get in some bargains from the lower leagues" in terms of overly simplistic, armchair punditry. If any of these players were remotely guaranteed to be decent Championship options then either they would be in the Championship already, or there would be a bidding war for their talent. It's like buying a car - all things being equal, the more you spend, the less risk that it doesn't work out.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Millsy » 03 Aug 2022 14:18

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Tbf - It's just another one of these things that armchair pundits think is easy to fix but is actually extremely complicated.


Like saying it's "purely a factor of us signing players who are prone to injury"? :wink:


That's what I mean though. An ignorant response to it would just be "Well, we need to stop buying players who get injured easily". But obviously that's just the gamble you take when you're entering in a market without the funds to get players with solid playing records.

It's up there with "We just need to get in some bargains from the lower leagues" in terms of overly simplistic, armchair punditry. If any of these players were remotely guaranteed to be decent Championship options then either they would be in the Championship already, or there would be a bidding war for their talent. It's like buying a car - all things being equal, the more you spend, the less risk that it doesn't work out.


Agreed. And even that is only a small part of the problem as I say. None of it is easy to sort, but doesn't mean it isn't sortable. Been going on too long, way before the current restrictions. Even back when we were paying silly money for people. And even affecting academy players. It's absolutely not purely just us signing injury prone players. That's another huge armchair pundit oversimplification of the problem ignoring long-running issues.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Nameless » 03 Aug 2022 16:06

There isn’t much incentive for a manager who is only going to be here for a short time to sort it. Ince seems to have told the owners a few home truths and Bowen has got his teeth into the Academy, perhaps they will review the fitness and medical stuff next and ask Ian Royal how to sort it.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2022 18:24

If we're fishing at the bottom of the barrel, we'd be better off signing less good players who can actually play week in, week out or promoting our Academy players over recruiting players with questionable fitness records / attitudes to training / who are in their mid 30s, because they're a bit better.

We may be at the bottom of the Championship barrel, but we're still capable of fishing in the upper half of the L1 barrel.


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2022 11:46

Ince confirms 1 or 2 more out for Saturday.

Beyond a joke really and we are doomed if we can't get a team out.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Sutekh » 04 Aug 2022 11:49

Stranded Ince confirms 1 or 2 more out for Saturday.

Beyond a joke really and we are doomed if we can't get a team out.


Is that 1 or 2 on top of the 8 (incl. BOO) already missing or was he just re-confirming that Joao, Hutchinson, and Dann are still out.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 11:56

Stranded Ince confirms 1 or 2 more out for Saturday.

Beyond a joke really and we are doomed if we can't get a team out.


Yep this is now becoming beyond acceptable.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2022 11:56

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Stranded Ince confirms 1 or 2 more out for Saturday.

Beyond a joke really and we are doomed if we can't get a team out.


Is that 1 or 2 on top of the 8 (incl. BOO) already missing or was he just re-confirming that Joao, Hutchinson, and Dann are still out.


Extra. None returning and no Sarr or Loum.

So unless one is Long then we will see at least 1 Academy starter this weekend.


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Coppells Lost Coat » 04 Aug 2022 12:02

All depends on who is injured. if its 2 of the academy lads then no real impact but if its 2 of the starting 11 we are in serious trouble on saturday.
Sarr and Loum even though they aren't eligible to play now, all it takes is receiving an email for them to be involved straight away.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 12:05

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Stranded Ince confirms 1 or 2 more out for Saturday.

Beyond a joke really and we are doomed if we can't get a team out.


Is that 1 or 2 on top of the 8 (incl. BOO) already missing or was he just re-confirming that Joao, Hutchinson, and Dann are still out.


Extra. None returning and no Sarr or Loum.

So unless one is Long then we will see at least 1 Academy starter this weekend.


To have around nine players out at this stage cannot be justified
About time serious questions were asked as to what the hell is going on. Thoroughly disillusioned before our first home game of the season
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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Sutekh » 04 Aug 2022 12:13

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Stranded Ince confirms 1 or 2 more out for Saturday.

Beyond a joke really and we are doomed if we can't get a team out.


Is that 1 or 2 on top of the 8 (incl. BOO) already missing or was he just re-confirming that Joao, Hutchinson, and Dann are still out.


Extra. None returning and no Sarr or Loum.

So unless one is Long then we will see at least 1 Academy starter this weekend.


This time last year after the first game of the season Reading had "just" 3 players injured I think (Araruna, Meite and Ejaria) After the first game this season it now seems to be at least 9. New management has made a real difference.

I see the old training ground is set for a new lease of life as a housing development, perhaps the club should have kept it on and built a hospital for sporting injuries and related research. Certainly would have more than enough customers to pay for itself the first week.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2022 12:18

Is training just kicking each other solidly for 4 hours a day? This is just bullshit


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by SCIAG » 04 Aug 2022 12:50

On one hand, yes, at first glance this looks awful and I’m not in a position to say why it is happening. Some of it is probably down to the players having fragile bodies but without inside knowledge it’s very hard to say.

Does seem strange that the club is being implicitly criticised for things like Abbey being knocked out in an U23 game. That’s not something any medical team can control.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2022 12:52

Someone claiming to be ITK says it is Meite and Yiadom who will be out - though will not believe anything until I see the team on Saturday.

If true, then means we either have to start a not fully fit Long or draft in Clarke or A.N. Other to play up top.

Yiadom missing would be tougher to fill, esp. without Sarr or Loum available - would guess Clarke would be the next in line given how he looked in pre-season.

Will have to see what's what on Saturday though.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2022 12:54

SCIAG On one hand, yes, at first glance this looks awful and I’m not in a position to say why it is happening. Some of it is probably down to the players having fragile bodies but without inside knowledge it’s very hard to say.

Does seem strange that the club is being implicitly criticised for things like Abbey being knocked out in an U23 game. That’s not something any medical team can control.

Who is implicitly criticising for that?

There's 8 other injuries to focus on and you bring up the one clear bad luck example.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by blythspartan » 04 Aug 2022 13:07

This is beyond a oxf*rd joke. We have a decent start to the season in terms of winnable games but we can barely field a starting 11. This is partly why Ince should have utilised more subs against Blackpool in my opinion. My early season optimism is fast fading.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 13:15

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SCIAG On one hand, yes, at first glance this looks awful and I’m not in a position to say why it is happening. Some of it is probably down to the players having fragile bodies but without inside knowledge it’s very hard to say.

Does seem strange that the club is being implicitly criticised for things like Abbey being knocked out in an U23 game. That’s not something any medical team can control.

Who is implicitly criticising for that?

There's 8 other injuries to focus on and you bring up the one clear bad luck example.


Yep. This isn’t about bad luck or one isolated unfortunate incident earlier this week. This is about shocking management of players. We had the worst injuries of any club last season and I would put money on there not being another club going into their first home game with at last nine out....it could be more as we have training tomorrow.

For the next few weeks training needs to be light and non contact. Please let’s have some common sense here.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by morganb » 04 Aug 2022 13:24

Reading manager Paul Ince confirmed that the players must now partake in yoga twice a week in an attempt to shake the current injury curse.

Ince believes stretching better and yoga could help reduce the number of knocks picked up by the squad.

https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news ... ury-curse/

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2022 13:25

Ince stating again that he feels we still don't do enough stretching and implying that some of the players are perhaps only paying it lip service rather than doing it properly, which is pretty major indictment of their professionalism if so.

He has now introduced yoga sessions twice a week as a way to improve this.

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