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Another odd record for Reading?

by Sutekh » 03 Nov 2022 14:51

A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Dirk Gently » 03 Nov 2022 15:08

Sutekh A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?


Quite a few have *never* reached the top flight. Surely that's longer...

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Hendo » 03 Nov 2022 15:13

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Sutekh A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?


Quite a few have *never* reached the top flight. Surely that's longer...


Bit like our FA Cup record.

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Stranded » 03 Nov 2022 15:16

Sutekh A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?


What's the cut off in terms of level here? For example Sheffield FC were formed in 1857 and have never been near the Football League let alone the top flight.

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Mid Sussex Royal » 03 Nov 2022 16:33

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Sutekh A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?


Quite a few have *never* reached the top flight. Surely that's longer...


Bit like our FA Cup record.


We do hold the record as having lost more FA cup games than any other league team, even if you add back Notts C from tier 5, as I believe they've won it once or twice.


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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by bakerlou » 03 Nov 2022 17:18

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Quite a few have *never* reached the top flight. Surely that's longer...


Bit like our FA Cup record.


We do hold the record as having lost more FA cup games than any other league team, even if you add back Notts C from tier 5, as I believe they've won it once or twice.

League team is correct, although Marlow hold the record

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Fox Talbot » 03 Nov 2022 22:47

Sutekh A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?


As there wasn’t a top flight until 1888 I’d call it 118 years (of hurt).

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Sutekh » 04 Nov 2022 09:01

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Sutekh A thought occurred to me, don’t know if it’s something anyone else has noted anywhere:

Reading were founded in 1871

Reading reached the top flight for the first time in 2006

A wait of 135 years, has any other club taken as long to reach the top flight?


As there wasn’t a top flight until 1888 I’d call it 118 years (of hurt).


Either way it’s probably still a record? It can be beaten of course, only take a Crewe, Wrexham or Chesterfield to go on a bit of a run up the leagues…

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by tmesis » 04 Nov 2022 17:56

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Quite a few have *never* reached the top flight. Surely that's longer...


Bit like our FA Cup record.


We do hold the record as having lost more FA cup games than any other league team, even if you add back Notts C from tier 5, as I believe they've won it once or twice.

I don't think they entered as early as we did either.

I don't think any professional club has.


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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Sutekh » 04 Nov 2022 19:14

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Bit like our FA Cup record.


We do hold the record as having lost more FA cup games than any other league team, even if you add back Notts C from tier 5, as I believe they've won it once or twice.

League team is correct, although Marlow hold the record


Marlow are the only club that has applied to compete in every FA Cup competition since it first started in 1871-72. They have actually played in each and every tournament to date except 1910-11 when their application missed the deadline for acceptance.

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Fox Talbot » 06 Nov 2022 21:14

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Bit like our FA Cup record.


We do hold the record as having lost more FA cup games than any other league team, even if you add back Notts C from tier 5, as I believe they've won it once or twice.

I don't think they entered as early as we did either.

I don't think any professional club has.


Notts C and Reading both first entered 1877-78.

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Millsy » 07 Nov 2022 20:21

Has there been any club that has lost as many play-off finals as we have?

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Sutekh » 07 Nov 2022 22:01

Millsy Has there been any club that has lost as many play-off finals as we have?


Yes

Football League Play off final losers since inception in 1987

4 losses

Reading
Sheffield United

3 losses

Brentford
Bristol City
Derby County
Exeter City
Leeds United
Leyton Orient
Lincoln City
Preston North End
Shrewsbury Town
Sunderland
Swansea City
Torquay United

2 losses

Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers
Bristol Rovers
Darlington
Gillingham
Huddersfield Town
Leicester City
Mansfield Town
Millwall
Newport County
Northampton Town
Stockport County
Sheriff Swindon Town
Wycombe Wanderers

1 loss

Aston Villa
Barnsley
Blackburn Rovers
Bradford City
Brighton & Hove Albion
Burton Albion
Bury
Cardiff City
Chelsea
Cheltenham Town
Chesterfield
Crewe Alexandra
Crystal Palace
Grimsby Town
Hartlepool United
Middlesbrough
Norwich City
Notts County
Oxford United
Plymouth Argyle
Port Vale
Queens Park Rangers
Rochdale
Rotherham United
Rushden & Diamonds
Scunthorpe United
Sheffield Wednesday
Tranmere Rovers
Watford
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Wrexham
Yeovil Town

I believe Sheffield United is the least successful play off team having made them 9 times and failed to win them 9 times.

Blackpool (7) and Huddersfield (6) have made the most finals.


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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Millsy » 08 Nov 2022 11:25

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Millsy Has there been any club that has lost as many play-off finals as we have?


Yes

Football League Play off final losers since inception in 1987

4 losses

Reading
Sheffield United

3 losses

Brentford
Bristol City
Derby County
Exeter City
Leeds United
Leyton Orient
Lincoln City
Preston North End
Shrewsbury Town
Sunderland
Swansea City
Torquay United

2 losses

Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers
Bristol Rovers
Darlington
Gillingham
Huddersfield Town
Leicester City
Mansfield Town
Millwall
Newport County
Northampton Town
Stockport County
Sheriff Swindon Town
Wycombe Wanderers

1 loss

Aston Villa
Barnsley
Blackburn Rovers
Bradford City
Brighton & Hove Albion
Burton Albion
Bury
Cardiff City
Chelsea
Cheltenham Town
Chesterfield
Crewe Alexandra
Crystal Palace
Grimsby Town
Hartlepool United
Middlesbrough
Norwich City
Notts County
Oxford United
Plymouth Argyle
Port Vale
Queens Park Rangers
Rochdale
Rotherham United
Rushden & Diamonds
Scunthorpe United
Sheffield Wednesday
Tranmere Rovers
Watford
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Wrexham
Yeovil Town

I believe Sheffield United is the least successful play off team having made them 9 times and failed to win them 9 times.

Blackpool (7) and Huddersfield (6) have made the most finals.


Blimey :shock:

That was a stab in the dark and I almost regretted asking the Q but no bollox, we're actually joint top for playoff finals lost! Another (joint) record then.

Poor buggers though, SU have cocked up so many and also haven't scored in any final ouside of a penalty shoot-out !

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Sutekh » 08 Nov 2022 12:30

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Millsy Has there been any club that has lost as many play-off finals as we have?


Yes

Football League Play off final losers since inception in 1987

4 losses

Reading
Sheffield United

3 losses

Brentford
Bristol City
Derby County
Exeter City
Leeds United
Leyton Orient
Lincoln City
Preston North End
Shrewsbury Town
Sunderland
Swansea City
Torquay United

2 losses

Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers
Bristol Rovers
Darlington
Gillingham
Huddersfield Town
Leicester City
Mansfield Town
Millwall
Newport County
Northampton Town
Stockport County
Sheriff Swindon Town
Wycombe Wanderers

1 loss

Aston Villa
Barnsley
Blackburn Rovers
Bradford City
Brighton & Hove Albion
Burton Albion
Bury
Cardiff City
Chelsea
Cheltenham Town
Chesterfield
Crewe Alexandra
Crystal Palace
Grimsby Town
Hartlepool United
Middlesbrough
Norwich City
Notts County
Oxford United
Plymouth Argyle
Port Vale
Queens Park Rangers
Rochdale
Rotherham United
Rushden & Diamonds
Scunthorpe United
Sheffield Wednesday
Tranmere Rovers
Watford
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Wrexham
Yeovil Town

I believe Sheffield United is the least successful play off team having made them 9 times and failed to win them 9 times.

Blackpool (7) and Huddersfield (6) have made the most finals.


Blimey :shock:

That was a stab in the dark and I almost regretted asking the Q but no bollox, we're actually joint top for playoff finals lost! Another (joint) record then.

Poor buggers though, SU have cocked up so many and also haven't scored in any final ouside of a penalty shoot-out !


Given Reading have only made 6 playoffs (1995, 2001, 2003, 2009, 2011, 2017) you could argue that their play off final loss ratio (4 out of 6) is actually better than the Blades' (4 out of 9)!

Preston's record is also fairly grim having failed on 8 out of 8 attempts.

The records of Ipswich and Brentford are also poor as though both clubs have won play offs (Ipswich in 2000 and Brentford in 2021) Ipswich haven't even got to another final in a further 7 play off attempts and Brentford had failed in 9 attempts before finally succeeding at their last (tenth) attempt.

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Millsy » 08 Nov 2022 13:24

Poor buggers!

Yeah getting to the finals is pretty good for us at least.

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by Forbury Lion » 11 Nov 2022 20:13

Fox Talbot 118 years (of hurt).
Simod Cup still gleaming

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Re: Another odd record for Reading?

by AthleticoSpizz » 11 Nov 2022 20:29

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Fox Talbot 118 years (of hurt).
Simod Cup still gleaming
your maths are wrong, but the sentiment remains true.

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