by Mr Irascible » 01 Feb 2023 00:30
by Green » 01 Feb 2023 17:17
by Elm Park Kid » 01 Feb 2023 19:25
by RG30 » 02 Feb 2023 11:36
by tidus_mi2 » 02 Feb 2023 11:51
RG30 1) Appoint a progressive coach/manager who can get the coach the players to maximize ability, Long term this definitely isn't Paul Ince.
2) Make use of our contacts within the game and use them to maximum value. Someone like Kia Joorabchian isn't going anywhere anytime soon despite what the club tell fans so use him for his contacts at Chelsea or other clubs and again someone like John Macbeath who is closely linked with Man City. Make sure that when these clubs have young players who need to go out on loan we're in the queue for them.
3) Overhaul the academy. Regain Cat 1 status and then sack off the likes of Gilkes and get someone with a proven track record at that level. The drop off pre and post Dolan has been alarming. The academy costs a couple of million a year and has to be our route to any success, whether it's selling players to fund better players or supplementing the 1st team.
4) Have a clearly defined style of play and stick to it.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 02 Feb 2023 12:29
Elm Park Kid Another path is to develop the best possible youth team and hope they come through. This take time and luck though, and the Championship is a brutally competitive league that doesn't really give you the option to spend a few seasons developing youngsters.
by Sutekh » 02 Feb 2023 13:25
YorkshireRoyal99Elm Park Kid Another path is to develop the best possible youth team and hope they come through. This take time and luck though, and the Championship is a brutally competitive league that doesn't really give you the option to spend a few seasons developing youngsters.
I repeat myself a lot with this but the club has to be built around the academy. You could field a competitive starting XI these days with the players we have brought through which is probably something that not many other clubs can say.
From an accounting point of view, it makes absolute sense as well. Investing in the academy does not held any bearing towards FFP regulations, so developing that area to bring through the best possible prospects, regain out Category One academy status etc should be an absolute priority. Any players that move on for good values, such as Olise (even though I believe we could/should have got more), will go towards profit on our accounts as well.
I think the academy is where we will get the most success from. We are in a great area really, slap bang in the middle (essentially) of the capital city, which has tonnes of clubs, another major UK city in Bristol as well as the south coast where there are a lot of clubs based, not to mention the area we are in now. It's a hotbed for young footballers, any that don't make the grade at top clubs we could make excellent use of.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 02 Feb 2023 13:39
SutekhYorkshireRoyal99Elm Park Kid Another path is to develop the best possible youth team and hope they come through. This take time and luck though, and the Championship is a brutally competitive league that doesn't really give you the option to spend a few seasons developing youngsters.
I repeat myself a lot with this but the club has to be built around the academy. You could field a competitive starting XI these days with the players we have brought through which is probably something that not many other clubs can say.
From an accounting point of view, it makes absolute sense as well. Investing in the academy does not held any bearing towards FFP regulations, so developing that area to bring through the best possible prospects, regain out Category One academy status etc should be an absolute priority. Any players that move on for good values, such as Olise (even though I believe we could/should have got more), will go towards profit on our accounts as well.
I think the academy is where we will get the most success from. We are in a great area really, slap bang in the middle (essentially) of the capital city, which has tonnes of clubs, another major UK city in Bristol as well as the south coast where there are a lot of clubs based, not to mention the area we are in now. It's a hotbed for young footballers, any that don't make the grade at top clubs we could make excellent use of.
Agree the academy is the lifeblood to some degree and Reading should be looking to get as many promising youngsters to join from wherever they can even if that means paying a transfer fee. Meanwhile though clubs (and fans) tend to want players who can play now, not players who may or may not fulfil some vague promise in 2 or 3 years. Would be nice to see the academy sides starting to win things though and maybe even getting a prolific striker through rather than the countless decent goalkeepers that Reading seem really good at producing.
by Dirk Gently » 02 Feb 2023 14:04
by Nameless » 02 Feb 2023 14:23
Dirk Gently There are three key revenue streams for any football club - gate, broadcast and commercial, and the most successful premier league clubs have developed all three. That what a lot of new stadium developments are all about - increasing commercial revenue, which includes commercial sponsorships and partnership, etc.
We're terribly deficient in the third one and always have been, so this is (or certainly *was*) seen as the key to making us sustainable in the PL. That's mainly what the proposed in 2006/07 was all about, but sadly we got cold feet(*) and it never happened. We'd be a very different club now if we had.
(*) Couldn't think to the required scale or find the money to fund it.
by Elm Park Kid » 02 Feb 2023 14:33
Dirk Gently There are three key revenue streams for any football club - gate, broadcast and commercial, and the most successful premier league clubs have developed all three. That what a lot of new stadium developments are all about - increasing commercial revenue, which includes commercial sponsorships and partnership, etc.
We're terribly deficient in the third one and always have been, so this is (or certainly *was*) seen as the key to making us sustainable in the PL. That's mainly what the proposed in 2006/07 was all about, but sadly we got cold feet(*) and it never happened. We'd be a very different club now if we had.
(*) Couldn't think to the required scale or find the money to fund it.
by Dirk Gently » 02 Feb 2023 14:50
Elm Park KidDirk Gently There are three key revenue streams for any football club - gate, broadcast and commercial, and the most successful premier league clubs have developed all three. That what a lot of new stadium developments are all about - increasing commercial revenue, which includes commercial sponsorships and partnership, etc.
We're terribly deficient in the third one and always have been, so this is (or certainly *was*) seen as the key to making us sustainable in the PL. That's mainly what the proposed in 2006/07 was all about, but sadly we got cold feet(*) and it never happened. We'd be a very different club now if we had.
(*) Couldn't think to the required scale or find the money to fund it.
Commercial revenues are always going to be tricky when you are close to London and don't have strong brand. Like, it doesn't matter how Forest, Derby, Wednesday, Sunderland etc are doing, those are 'big names' that large companies want to be associated with. But Reading has to be winning, or have exciting players, for anyone serious to want to get involved with us.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 02 Feb 2023 15:22
Dirk Gently There are three key revenue streams for any football club - gate, broadcast and commercial, and the most successful premier league clubs have developed all three. That what a lot of new stadium developments are all about - increasing commercial revenue, which includes commercial sponsorships and partnership, etc.
We're terribly deficient in the third one and always have been, so this is (or certainly *was*) seen as the key to making us sustainable in the PL. That's mainly what the proposed in 2006/07 was all about, but sadly we got cold feet(*) and it never happened. We'd be a very different club now if we had.
(*) Couldn't think to the required scale or find the money to fund it.
by BraisingsteakRoyal » 02 Feb 2023 15:30
by Elm Park Kid » 02 Feb 2023 15:37
Dirk GentlyElm Park KidDirk Gently There are three key revenue streams for any football club - gate, broadcast and commercial, and the most successful premier league clubs have developed all three. That what a lot of new stadium developments are all about - increasing commercial revenue, which includes commercial sponsorships and partnership, etc.
We're terribly deficient in the third one and always have been, so this is (or certainly *was*) seen as the key to making us sustainable in the PL. That's mainly what the proposed in 2006/07 was all about, but sadly we got cold feet(*) and it never happened. We'd be a very different club now if we had.
(*) Couldn't think to the required scale or find the money to fund it.
Commercial revenues are always going to be tricky when you are close to London and don't have strong brand. Like, it doesn't matter how Forest, Derby, Wednesday, Sunderland etc are doing, those are 'big names' that large companies want to be associated with. But Reading has to be winning, or have exciting players, for anyone serious to want to get involved with us.
Yes and no. Clearly there's no advantage in being associated with a dead duck club, but as I was told this was all about leveraging the location of the club in the heart of one of the UK's successful business areas. So they were looking to have facilities that could be used by the likes of prestige bands such as Microsoft, Oracle, BMW, Porsche, Vodafone, PepsiCo, Cisco etc. They design included the sort of facilities that these companies could use all through the week - not just on match days, and would be customised for them so they'd not be just like the existing conference centre but a whole quantum leap better and more lucrative than that. So not just executive boxes but demo facilities/innovation facilities that would cement a link between these high-profile corporates and the club.
by Dirk Gently » 02 Feb 2023 16:45
Elm Park KidDirk GentlyElm Park Kid
Commercial revenues are always going to be tricky when you are close to London and don't have strong brand. Like, it doesn't matter how Forest, Derby, Wednesday, Sunderland etc are doing, those are 'big names' that large companies want to be associated with. But Reading has to be winning, or have exciting players, for anyone serious to want to get involved with us.
Yes and no. Clearly there's no advantage in being associated with a dead duck club, but as I was told this was all about leveraging the location of the club in the heart of one of the UK's successful business areas. So they were looking to have facilities that could be used by the likes of prestige bands such as Microsoft, Oracle, BMW, Porsche, Vodafone, PepsiCo, Cisco etc. They design included the sort of facilities that these companies could use all through the week - not just on match days, and would be customised for them so they'd not be just like the existing conference centre but a whole quantum leap better and more lucrative than that. So not just executive boxes but demo facilities/innovation facilities that would cement a link between these high-profile corporates and the club.
I'm not really clued up on that sort of stuff - It would definitely make sense if we could find a way to monetise the stadium throughout the year. But then, I also wonder about the logic of a football club like Reading trying to compete in that space. I mean, what is it about RFC specifically that would give us a competitive edge? Sure, there's having the stadium already, and some staff who have transferable skills, but other than that you're talking about attempting to compete against the large, established players 45 minutes away in London.
Clubs with bigger names can utilise that brand in a business venture like this. If you're Leeds United you can probably pull away clients from going with other venues in Leeds due to the general excitement involved. But, to be frank, we're a club that generate little excitement.
by BraisingsteakRoyal » 03 Feb 2023 09:08
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