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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by PEARCEY » 03 Sep 2009 20:56

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Armadillo Roadkill You're made of sterner stuff than me if you're not excited about the revolution.

People who are scared of revolution are certainly not made of stern stuff - they are the meek little weaklings to whom the comfort of the past and all they are familar with is more attractive than the potential of an exciting future. They are the people who become scared at the prospect of change and are unable to enjoy its journey, wherever it may lead.

They are sad and unsatisfied more often than those who embrace the revolution, whatever its ultimate outcome.

Viva la revolution!!



So what happened to the brick by brick approach that you and others advocated in the past?
Bit of a dramatic about turn isn't it Mr Rother?

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by AthleticoSpizz » 03 Sep 2009 20:57

Its Lego bricks that we are building with now

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Forever Reading » 03 Sep 2009 20:58

I just hope that the publishers of Football Manager 2009 and kind with the stats of our new players.

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by PEARCEY » 03 Sep 2009 20:58

AthleticoSpizz Its Lego bricks that we are building with now



Ones that have been borrowed as well...

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by sandman » 03 Sep 2009 21:07

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Armadillo Roadkill You're made of sterner stuff than me if you're not excited about the revolution.

People who are scared of revolution are certainly not made of stern stuff - they are the meek little weaklings to whom the comfort of the past and all they are familar with is more attractive than the potential of an exciting future. They are the people who become scared at the prospect of change and are unable to enjoy its journey, wherever it may lead.

They are sad and unsatisfied more often than those who embrace the revolution, whatever its ultimate outcome.

Viva la revolution!!


Success must always be always be aspired to no on e wants to see the club stand still. No one was excited about this supposed revolution before the Barnsley game and they were bemoaning the changes. A change is good when you've got confidence in the person leading it but I do not as yet have any confidence in a manager with less than 50 Games under his belt and has just signed a one season wonder and a kid. Rodgers may well be a success but you have to be seriously myopic not to acknowledge the valid concerns people have about him and the squad.


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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Royalee » 03 Sep 2009 21:11

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AthleticoSpizz Its Lego bricks that we are building with now



Ones that have been borrowed as well...


Borrowed?

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by PEARCEY » 03 Sep 2009 21:13

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Ones that have been borrowed as well...


Borrowed?



Bertrand and O'Dea.

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Sep 2009 21:17

Forever Reading I just hope that the publishers of Football Manager 2009 and kind with the stats of our new players.


Fuck 'em. Expensive game with too many bugs anyway.

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by ZacNaloen » 03 Sep 2009 21:19

No one was excited about this supposed revolution before the Barnsley game and they were bemoaning the changes.



Like hell they weren't.


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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Royalee » 03 Sep 2009 21:20

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Borrowed?



Bertrand and O'Dea.


Bertrand's on loan for the season and I reckon we could sign him if we do well mutually out of it given his comments on what he intends to discuss with Chelsea at the end of the season and O'Dea offers competition while Ingimarsson's injured. We've signed another 5 players permanently and have a very strong squad which belong to RFC.

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by strap » 03 Sep 2009 21:26

sandman Success must always be always be aspired to no on e wants to see the club stand still. No one was excited about this supposed revolution before the Barnsley game and they were bemoaning the changes. A change is good when you've got confidence in the person leading it but I do not as yet have any confidence in a manager with less than 50 Games under his belt and has just signed a one season wonder and a kid. Rodgers may well be a success but you have to be seriously myopic not to acknowledge the valid concerns people have about him and the squad.


Sound point. Confidence and respect have to be earned. BR's entire managerial career consists of 39 games.

Blind faith is all well and good, but a good dose of realism will not go amiss, both here on the boards and in the Club's utterings. We now have a team with an average age likely to be in the low 20's, with a manager who has bossed 39 games. These are FACTS.

Finishing in 21st place this year has GOT to be considered a success. A mid-table finish a la Watford last year will be extraordinary, and should we end up flirting with the play-offs, then BR will have every right to crow. The next season will be the big test of this season's revolution. Having witnessd something similar with Jack Mansell's reign it could well be a rollercoaster couple of years.

Really can't wait for Doncaster!

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by sandman » 03 Sep 2009 21:29

I don't think anyone has said Harps is a dreadful Champ player. Just that he went rather stale here.[/quote]

Someone clearly hasn't been reading any of the posts made by Royalee.
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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Sep 2009 21:30

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sandman Success must always be always be aspired to no on e wants to see the club stand still. No one was excited about this supposed revolution before the Barnsley game and they were bemoaning the changes. A change is good when you've got confidence in the person leading it but I do not as yet have any confidence in a manager with less than 50 Games under his belt and has just signed a one season wonder and a kid. Rodgers may well be a success but you have to be seriously myopic not to acknowledge the valid concerns people have about him and the squad.


Sound point. Confidence and respect have to be earned. BR's entire managerial career consists of 39 games.

Blind faith is all well and good, but a good dose of realism will not go amiss, both here on the boards and in the Club's utterings. We now have a team with an average age likely to be in the low 20's, with a manager who has bossed 39 games. These are REALLLLLLLLLLL FACTSSSSSSSSSS.

Finishing in 21st place this year has GOT to be considered a success. A mid-table finish a la Watford last year will be extraordinary, and should we end up flirting with the play-offs, then BR will have every right to crow. The next season will be the big test of this season's revolution. Having witnessd something similar with Jack Mansell's reign it could well be a rollercoaster couple of years.

Really can't wait for Doncaster!


You are SDR AICMFP!!!

Realism is good. I can live with that. Blind faith results with things like Jihad and Fatwah. No thanks.


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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Royal Rother » 03 Sep 2009 21:53

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Armadillo Roadkill You're made of sterner stuff than me if you're not excited about the revolution.

People who are scared of revolution are certainly not made of stern stuff - they are the meek little weaklings to whom the comfort of the past and all they are familar with is more attractive than the potential of an exciting future. They are the people who become scared at the prospect of change and are unable to enjoy its journey, wherever it may lead.

They are sad and unsatisfied more often than those who embrace the revolution, whatever its ultimate outcome.

Viva la revolution!!



So what happened to the brick by brick approach that you and others advocated in the past?
Bit of a dramatic about turn isn't it Mr Rother?

Brick by brick worked just fine and got us to the Premier League - but don't forget, 90% of the soundness of a structure is in its foundations. They take a long time to put in place but without them the brickwork itself is pretty useless. With solid foundations in place you can quickly knock the brickwork down and rebuild with a more modern look if that is what is required. And the look and cost of a brick has little impact on the soundness of the structure - cheaper ones do the job just as well if the builder knows what he is doing.

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by PEARCEY » 03 Sep 2009 21:55

^ Heaven help us :lol:

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Thou Voice » 03 Sep 2009 21:57

Royal Rother Brick by brick worked just fine and got us to the Premier League - but don't forget, 90% of the soundness of a structure is in its foundations. They take a long time to put in place but without them the brickwork itself is pretty useless. With solid foundations in place you can quickly knock the brickwork down and rebuild with a more modern look if that is what is required. And the look and cost of a brick has little impact on the soundness of the structure - cheaper ones do the job just as well if the builder knows what he is doing.

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No! No! No!

This is wrong on so many levels that there is hardly enough levels to go around. Just step back and take a look at your daft statements here.

You are saying that these cheaper bricks (as in players) can do the job just as well as the pre-2009/10 squad that we flushed down the royal toilet? No, I don't think so...

...if you and other RTG wearers really believe this, then as the years go on, your going to be surronded by a sea of blue seats (unless you sit on the white madman ones in the other stand) where those other kind of people like to sit.

NEXT THING YOUR BE ASKING FOR IS A CHAMPIONSHIP WALL...

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Ian Royal » 03 Sep 2009 22:06

I believe to carry on the analogy, the old house was built well, carefully, lovingly even. But the materials, no matter how good won't last forever. We've pulled down some of the wearing bits, and sold on some of the bits that don't fit any longer, or that some yuppy down the road wants because our old house was so good.

The foundations remain unchanged, we've bought most the materials for the ground floor and will be assembling them over the next year or so. The Scafolding and a lot of the loadbearing walls are in place still. As and when its approriate we'll start trying to pull in the materials for the first floor and the roof. No point trying to build the roof or the first floor on the foundations now, is there?

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Royal Rother » 03 Sep 2009 22:10

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Royal Rother Brick by brick worked just fine and got us to the Premier League - but don't forget, 90% of the soundness of a structure is in its foundations. They take a long time to put in place but without them the brickwork itself is pretty useless. With solid foundations in place you can quickly knock the brickwork down and rebuild with a more modern look if that is what is required. And the look and cost of a brick has little impact on the soundness of the structure - cheaper ones do the job just as well if the builder knows what he is doing.

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No! No! No!

This is wrong on so many levels that there is hardly enough levels to go around. Just step back and take a look at your daft statements here.

You are saying that these cheaper bricks (as in players) can do the job just as well as the pre-2009/10 squad that we flushed down the royal toilet? No, I don't think so...

Are they any cheaper than what we had before? 2005/6 squad cost bugger all, quite probably less than this one, even though we have a pile of home grown players who cost nothing in transfer fees.

Look at it this way; 2008/9 squad were crap in the 2nd half of the season - (we shall see but...) I expect this one to get more points in the next 23 games than was achieved in the last 23 games by the old squad.

If achieved, I'd call that welcome progress wouldn't you?

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Thou Voice » 03 Sep 2009 22:12

IF being the key word...

...can you hand on heart really see it happening?

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Re: Rodgers Revolution

by Royalwaster » 03 Sep 2009 22:12

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