Where's Royalee?

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by rhroyal » 08 Oct 2009 10:18

Royalee Having 2 good games in 7 starts does not warrant a first team place in any decent side.

Would we have won those 2 games without him? Would we have won any games this season? Inconsistent but when we're struggling with creativity he has to start because on a good day he's too good for this league.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Royalee » 08 Oct 2009 12:02

Without him we may have won more games - we're stronger as a unit without him.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Royal Lady » 08 Oct 2009 12:13

He hasn't played in all our games this season - which games he wasn't playing in did we win and look like a stronger unit?

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Royalee » 08 Oct 2009 12:33

Cardiff and Peterborough first half - two of our best performances this season.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Ian Royal » 08 Oct 2009 12:41

Kebe didn't play against Swansea or Sheffield Utd and didn't start against Peterborough or Cardiff.

Both Sheffield and Peterborough we appear to have lost because we were taken apart on the wings because we played with no width.

You could make a reasonable arguement that had Kebe started we would have had width and so that wouldn't have happened. We certainly played our best stuff in the second half against Peterborough when he came on. In fact with a slightly better header he'd have won us a draw.

So Kebe has been envolved in winning us 9 of our 10 points, and the three games we've started against him, weve lost three and managed a 0-0 draw against a team who couldn't score to save their lives at the time.

A compelling argument from Royalee to drop him there. :roll:

Barnsley: our best 90 minute performance so far.
Preston: our best first half performance so far.

Peterborough was nothing special.


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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Royalee » 08 Oct 2009 12:50

Ian Royal Kebe didn't play against Swansea or Sheffield Utd and didn't start against Peterborough or Cardiff.

Both Sheffield and Peterborough we appear to have lost because we were taken apart on the wings because we played with no width.

You could make a reasonable arguement that had Kebe started we would have had width and so that wouldn't have happened. We certainly played our best stuff in the second half against Peterborough when he came on. In fact with a slightly better header he'd have won us a draw.

So Kebe has been envolved in winning us 9 of our 10 points, and the three games we've started against him, weve lost three and managed a 0-0 draw against a team who couldn't score to save their lives at the time.

A compelling argument from Royalee to drop him there. :roll:

Barnsley: our best 90 minute performance so far.
Preston: our best first half performance so far.

Peterborough was nothing special.


Absolute nonsense I'm afraid - we played the best football at Pboro in the first half and when Kebe was on the winner came from down his side which makes a mockery of your defensive argument. We played exceptionally well against Cardiff and even the most biased view couldn't dispute that we deserved at least a point if not three from that game.

I agree with you that we need to play with wingers and McAnuff has been excellent since coming in, but although Kebe is a winger, he's not the answer as he's not consistent enough. I'd much rather Robson-Kanu or Davies was given a run of games down the right where both are comfortable playing at the expense of Kebe - we'd actually see some consistency in end product then as opposed to twice in seven starts.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Ian Royal » 08 Oct 2009 13:03

Peterborough was nothing special. We marginally outplayed a piss poor team in the first half and got two goals through excellent set pieces.

Preston we completely outplayed one of the best teams in the division first half and got two goals from open play.

When Kebe came on he was playing as a striker essentially, not as a winger we certainly weren't playing the normal 4-5-1 or a 4-4-2. Had we had width from the start we wouldn't have conceeded the two goals that took Peterborough back into the game.

You are completely biased against the man. You simply cannot drop the engineer of 6 of our 10 points. He has not lost us any games. He simply hasn't done enough in some to get us winning or back to level terms.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Royalee » 08 Oct 2009 13:09

Ian Royal Peterborough was nothing special. We marginally outplayed a piss poor team in the first half and got two goals through excellent set pieces.

Preston we completely outplayed one of the best teams in the division first half and got two goals from open play.

When Kebe came on he was playing as a striker essentially, not as a winger we certainly weren't playing the normal 4-5-1 or a 4-4-2. Had we had width from the start we wouldn't have conceeded the two goals that took Peterborough back into the game.

You are completely biased against the man. You simply cannot drop the engineer of 6 of our 10 points. He has not lost us any games. He simply hasn't done enough in some to get us winning or back to level terms.


We dominated Pboro first half up there. Preston were all over us second half btw...

When Kebe came on he was not playing as a striker at Pboro although it was a very amusing way of trying to bail him out of jail yet again by someone who is completely biased towards him. He's lost us games through switching off and allowing opponents to proceed unchallenged and also by wasting all our attacking play 135 minutes aside this season when he's featured. 1 and a half good games in a season don't excuse him the rest and he is often a passenger in our team which is costing us defensively as well as attacking-wise.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by loyalroyal4life » 08 Oct 2009 13:11

kebe won us our 2nd win of the season!!!

howard should be dropped if anything


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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Ryn » 08 Oct 2009 13:22

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Ian Royal Peterborough was nothing special. We marginally outplayed a piss poor team in the first half and got two goals through excellent set pieces.

Preston we completely outplayed one of the best teams in the division first half and got two goals from open play.

When Kebe came on he was playing as a striker essentially, not as a winger we certainly weren't playing the normal 4-5-1 or a 4-4-2. Had we had width from the start we wouldn't have conceeded the two goals that took Peterborough back into the game.

You are completely biased against the man. You simply cannot drop the engineer of 6 of our 10 points. He has not lost us any games. He simply hasn't done enough in some to get us winning or back to level terms.


We dominated Pboro first half up there. Preston were all over us second half btw...

When Kebe came on he was not playing as a striker at Pboro although it was a very amusing way of trying to bail him out of jail yet again by someone who is completely biased towards him. He's lost us games through switching off and allowing opponents to proceed unchallenged and also by wasting all our attacking play 135 minutes aside this season when he's featured. 1 and a half good games in a season don't excuse him the rest and he is often a passenger in our team which is costing us defensively as well as attacking-wise.


Kebe's lost us those games singlehandedly has he? If he has then he's a bigger influence on this team than we give him credit for.

Face it - so far, on evidence displayed this season, Kebe is the only player in our team capable of creating a goal in open play.

Fact.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by floyd__streete » 08 Oct 2009 13:34

Ryn Face it - so far, on evidence displayed this season, Kebe is the only player in our team capable of creating a goal in open play.

Fact.


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Re: Where's Royalee?

by facaldaqui » 08 Oct 2009 16:12

Everyone's welcome to their views, but any analysis of football which credits a single player as the reason for victories or defeats is obviously superficial. It's a team game.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Ian Royal » 08 Oct 2009 17:25

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We dominated Pboro first half up there. Preston were all over us second half btw...

When Kebe came on he was not playing as a striker at Pboro although it was a very amusing way of trying to bail him out of jail yet again by someone who is completely biased towards him. He's lost us games through switching off and allowing opponents to proceed unchallenged and also by wasting all our attacking play 135 minutes aside this season when he's featured. 1 and a half good games in a season don't excuse him the rest and he is often a passenger in our team which is costing us defensively as well as attacking-wise.



You talk utter drivel. Completely biased towards him? I can't stand the frustrating idiot! I shout Jimmeh! Jimmeh! every time he's on the ball ffs. I just recognise he's currently our best option and the only match winner we have.

We did not dominate P'boro. We were on top yes. That is it.

I never said anything about Preston in the second half and I know they were, so that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. P'boro pissed all over us second half as well. Big whoop.

Pull your head out your arse.
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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Ian Royal » 08 Oct 2009 17:26

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Ian Royal Peterborough was nothing special. We marginally outplayed a piss poor team in the first half and got two goals through excellent set pieces.

Preston we completely outplayed one of the best teams in the division first half and got two goals from open play.

When Kebe came on he was playing as a striker essentially, not as a winger we certainly weren't playing the normal 4-5-1 or a 4-4-2. Had we had width from the start we wouldn't have conceeded the two goals that took Peterborough back into the game.

You are completely biased against the man. You simply cannot drop the engineer of 6 of our 10 points. He has not lost us any games. He simply hasn't done enough in some to get us winning or back to level terms.


We dominated Pboro first half up there. Preston were all over us second half btw...

When Kebe came on he was not playing as a striker at Pboro although it was a very amusing way of trying to bail him out of jail yet again by someone who is completely biased towards him. He's lost us games through switching off and allowing opponents to proceed unchallenged and also by wasting all our attacking play 135 minutes aside this season when he's featured. 1 and a half good games in a season don't excuse him the rest and he is often a passenger in our team which is costing us defensively as well as attacking-wise.


Kebe's lost us those games singlehandedly has he? If he has then he's a bigger influence on this team than we give him credit for.

Face it - so far, on evidence displayed this season, Kebe is the only player in our team capable of creating a goal in open play.

Fact.

Except Karacan & Gunnarsson of course.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by brendywendy » 08 Oct 2009 17:32

Royalee Without him we may have won more games - we're stronger as a unit without him.


you made more sense whenslagging off coppell


and thats saying something :roll:

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Ian Royal » 08 Oct 2009 17:41

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Royalee Without him we may have won more games - we're stronger as a unit without him.


you made more sense whenslagging off coppell


and thats saying something :roll:


2 wins, 3 draws, 2 loses with him = 1.29pts per game, thats 59pts in 46 games
0 wins, 1 draw, 3 loses without him = 0.25pts for game, thats 12pts in 46 games. :shock:

One is suicide form, one is midtable form.

Aren't stats great!*







*yes yes, statistically insignificant and very selective, but I'm just trying to annoy Royalee, not make a genuine point. afterall, it's obvious we need Kebe to start.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by brendywendy » 08 Oct 2009 17:51

of course its not a big enough sample to be conclusive

but its way more than what royalee is going on

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Man Friday » 08 Oct 2009 19:31

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Ian Royal Kebe didn't play against Swansea or Sheffield Utd and didn't start against Peterborough or Cardiff.

Both Sheffield and Peterborough we appear to have lost because we were taken apart on the wings because we played with no width.

You could make a reasonable arguement that had Kebe started we would have had width and so that wouldn't have happened. We certainly played our best stuff in the second half against Peterborough when he came on. In fact with a slightly better header he'd have won us a draw.

So Kebe has been envolved in winning us 9 of our 10 points, and the three games we've started against him, weve lost three and managed a 0-0 draw against a team who couldn't score to save their lives at the time.

A compelling argument from Royalee to drop him there. :roll:

Barnsley: our best 90 minute performance so far.
Preston: our best first half performance so far.

Peterborough was nothing special.


Absolute nonsense I'm afraid - we played the best football at Pboro in the first half and when Kebe was on the winner came from down his side which makes a mockery of your defensive argument. We played exceptionally well against Cardiff and even the most biased view couldn't dispute that we deserved at least a point if not three from that game.

I agree with you that we need to play with wingers and McAnuff has been excellent since coming in, but although Kebe is a winger, he's not the answer as he's not consistent enough. I'd much rather Robson-Kanu or Davies was given a run of games down the right where both are comfortable playing at the expense of Kebe - we'd actually see some consistency in end product then as opposed to twice in seven starts.

:o :shock: :) :lol: :!:

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by Terminal Boardom » 08 Oct 2009 21:51

From what I have seen this season, none of our wide players have been particularly good defensively.

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Re: Where's Royalee?

by weybridgewanderer » 08 Oct 2009 22:20

i've corrected it for you

Terminal Boardom From what I have seen this season, none of our players have been particularly good defensively.

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