RoyalBlue
Only plastics of the very first degree would need to complain about not being able to read names and numbers!
You may well be right - but they do not just put up with it they complain - there is a lesson.
by STAR Liaison » 13 Feb 2012 08:23
RoyalBlue
Only plastics of the very first degree would need to complain about not being able to read names and numbers!
by STAR Liaison » 13 Feb 2012 08:27
M U R T YstarliaisonM U R T Y Good stuff, as many votes as we can and then send the results to the club - perhaps Star could get involved in this one if there is overwhelming fan support?
We regularly ask and apart from there being no way they will allow a public vote, it is a fact that they get more complaints about not being able to read the names and numbers than complaints that the hoops don't go all the way around.
So maybe rather than voting in this poll you would have more effect if you complained directly to the club.
I would have thought if Star presented to the club the result of an online poll stating that 89% (as it currently stands) of Reading fans want to see a return to hooped shirts, that would have a far greater impact than just one or two complaints to the club?
by STAR Liaison » 13 Feb 2012 08:33
MuguireFriday's Legacystarliaison
We regularly ask and apart from there being no way they will allow a public vote, it is a fact that they get more complaints about not being able to read the names and numbers than complaints that the hoops don't go all the way around.
So maybe rather than voting in this poll you would have more effect if you complained directly to the club.
so why can't the club have a small square patch with the number on then? There can still be a hoop above the square and below it. best of both worlds, but there is absolutely no need for a whole plain back panel on the shirt.
i certainly wont buy a shirt that has a 12 month life span for £40, and looks completely different from the front and back.
personally i can't believe we have any more moaners than any other club, and the likes of sunderland and qpr don't bother with a blank back panel - sunderland especially considering their fanbase vs ours.
honestly, i don't know how qpr fans cope with shirts like this. i mean, how do they read that.. it's like.. REALLY BLOODY CLEAR!!
AND IF YOU ARE A PROPER FAN THAT ATTENDS GAMES OFTEN, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO LOOK AT THE NAME AND NUMBER ON A SHIRT.
star are a complete waste of space. MURTY is spot on as well as Friday's Legacy, the fact is you take a no far to easily and walk away instead of trying to do something the majority of fans actually do want. You have no use except coach travel, and quite frankly I'd rather get the friggin' train.
If you want my membership/financial contribution, earn it
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 13 Feb 2012 10:27
starliaisonM U R T Y Good stuff, as many votes as we can and then send the results to the club - perhaps Star could get involved in this one if there is overwhelming fan support?
We regularly ask and apart from there being no way they will allow a public vote, it is a fact that they get more complaints about not being able to read the names and numbers than complaints that the hoops don't go all the way around.
by The Rouge » 13 Feb 2012 11:29
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 13 Feb 2012 12:27
No Fixed Abode Why would anyone over the age of about 15 worry what a football shirt looks like?
No Fixed Abode Something like this - classic and simple.
by Magnus » 13 Feb 2012 15:46
by Friday's Legacy » 13 Feb 2012 16:10
Magnus What's on the back of Reading shirts at the moment then? Are they all white?
Or are they like the one in Friday Legacy's post with a white square?
by Ian Royal » 13 Feb 2012 17:32
The Rouge I would understand IF this was a 60/40 issue but considering my conversations with fans, this poll and a facebook thread suggests that an overwhelming majority of the fans want this, then:
- it is shocking that the club don't understand their customers enough to know this
- with the above in mind it is disappointing that we are this toothless as supporters
Are STAR there to represent the views of fans? If they are then a little more presence in representing these views would be good!
It is my guess, that actually the percentage might be even higher (perhaps discounting younger fans) as perhaps the more traditional fans/those a bit older who have been watching Reading for years are less likely to use the internet much.
by The Rouge » 13 Feb 2012 17:41
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by 78royal » 14 Feb 2012 01:45
by M U R T Y » 14 Feb 2012 08:38
starliaisonM U R T Y I would have thought if Star presented to the club the result of an online poll stating that 89% (as it currently stands) of Reading fans want to see a return to hooped shirts, that would have a far greater impact than just one or two complaints to the club?
Quite agree but the current number of 53 means the percentage would be laughed at. If there were possibly thousands they would take more notice but there is an inbuilt suspicion of anything on here because of the anonymity. Hence do yourself a favour and complain direct rather than wanting someone to do it for you. That has so much more impact as the club then believes you mean it rather than jsut following the crowd.
by Ian Royal » 14 Feb 2012 11:59
M U R T YstarliaisonM U R T Y I would have thought if Star presented to the club the result of an online poll stating that 89% (as it currently stands) of Reading fans want to see a return to hooped shirts, that would have a far greater impact than just one or two complaints to the club?
Quite agree but the current number of 53 means the percentage would be laughed at. If there were possibly thousands they would take more notice but there is an inbuilt suspicion of anything on here because of the anonymity. Hence do yourself a favour and complain direct rather than wanting someone to do it for you. That has so much more impact as the club then believes you mean it rather than jsut following the crowd.
It's all relative though - as pointed out above, 60 have voted "Yes" and 1 "No" - I think even with these small numbers the majority is so overwhelming that it cannot be ignored. As for your point about complaining myself rather than "getting someone else to do it for you" - I suggested STAR do this as I believed that they have regular meetings with the club and as pointed out by yourself, attend meetings regarding next season's kit - and STAR's very own objective (as stated on it's website) is:
"Its objectives can be seen below but can be summarised as aiming to represent the interests of Reading supporters to the Football Club, the media, the local community and the football world, as well as encouraging football in the local community and strengthening the links between the local community and the Club."
Now surely, if year after year Reading fans complain that we no longer wear hoops, STAR should be representing the fans and demanding that RFC change their approach?
Rev Algenon Stickleback HNo Fixed Abode Why would anyone over the age of about 15 worry what a football shirt looks like?
Dunno. You tell me.No Fixed Abode Something like this - classic and simple.
by Friday's Legacy » 14 Feb 2012 13:42
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