England - the future....

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Re: England - the future....

by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Jun 2021 21:59

There aint no future, and Englands dreaming.

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Re: England - the future....

by BR0B0T » 19 Jun 2021 22:31

AthleticoSpizz There aint no future, and Englands dreaming.


Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future
No future
No future for you

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Re: England - the future....

by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Jun 2021 23:05

Indeed

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Re: England - the future....

by LUX » 20 Jun 2021 14:55

I always thought it was “ there is no future..... in England’s dreaming”. Both work, I suppose.

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Re: England - the future....

by BR0B0T » 20 Jun 2021 15:12

LUX I always thought it was “ there is no future..... in England’s dreaming”. Both work, I suppose.


Just had a listen, sounds like 'IN' but I'm as deaf as fcuk

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
and there's no future
in England's dreaming


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Re: England - the future....

by LUX » 20 Jun 2021 15:34

Just checked on Lyricfind, and the first time it’s “ and” and the second “ in”.

Tbh, misheard lyrics, often from long ago, are a speciality of mine.

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Re: England - the future....

by AthleticoSpizz » 20 Jun 2021 16:08

‘Relieved’ vindication

“It’s been a year since I broke my nose” (Massage in a Brothel....The Police)

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Re: England - the future....

by fartdad » 20 Jun 2021 16:16

Michael Owen dirty bugger

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Re: England - the future....

by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Jun 2021 18:59

Simmops Also we could in theory not even qualify in 1st or 2nd.

If we lose 2 - 0 to Czech and Croatia win by 2 goals we will be in 3rd on GD

How many 3rd places go through? Are we pretty much guaranteed to qualify even if we do finish 3rd?


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Re: England - the future....

by Simmops » 20 Jun 2021 19:06

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Simmops Also we could in theory not even qualify in 1st or 2nd.

If we lose 2 - 0 to Czech and Croatia win by 2 goals we will be in 3rd on GD

How many 3rd places go through? Are we pretty much guaranteed to qualify even if we do finish 3rd?

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Switzerland probably one

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Re: England - the future....

by Snowflake Royal » 20 Jun 2021 22:58

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Simmops Also we could in theory not even qualify in 1st or 2nd.

If we lose 2 - 0 to Czech and Croatia win by 2 goals we will be in 3rd on GD

How many 3rd places go through? Are we pretty much guaranteed to qualify even if we do finish 3rd?

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Switzerland probably one

If we finish 4th with that turnaround the Swiss should qualify in 3rd ahead of us due to scoring significantly more goals... I believe it would put us on the same pts and GD.

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Re: England - the future....

by URZZZZ » 21 Jun 2021 00:08

WestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.

BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.

The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.

I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.


Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO

Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings

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Re: England - the future....

by Simmops » 21 Jun 2021 06:46

URZZZZ
WestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.

BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.

The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.

I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.


Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO

Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings


Why does everybody hate mings? Its rather pathetic. Hes a good player clearly.


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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 21 Jun 2021 08:25

URZZZZ
WestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.

BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.

The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.

I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.


Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO

Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings


Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.

He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with

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Re: England - the future....

by Hendo » 21 Jun 2021 08:48

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WestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.

BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.

The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.

I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.


Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO

Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings


Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.

He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with


He won the golden boot at the last World Cup :|


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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 21 Jun 2021 08:59

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Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO

Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings


Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.

He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with


He won the golden boot at the last World Cup :|



Oh yeh. He did didn't he? :oops:

I'm going to try to defend my point nevertheless :shock:

2 tap ins 3 penalties and a deflection. QED

What I remember most is a decent chance or 2 spurned against Croatia

Either way he's not the same player for England as he is for Spurs.

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Re: England - the future....

by Simmops » 21 Jun 2021 09:09

bcubed
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Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.

He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with


He won the golden boot at the last World Cup :|



Oh yeh. He did didn't he? :oops:

I'm going to try to defend my point nevertheless :shock:

2 tap ins 3 penalties and a deflection. QED

What I remember most is a decent chance or 2 spurned against Croatia

Either way he's not the same player for England as he is for Spurs.


Few goals against Panama aswell

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Re: England - the future....

by Hendo » 21 Jun 2021 09:23

Can only beat what's put in front of you and he was still there to stick them in.

Gary Lineker only scored pens and tap ins as well...

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Re: England - the future....

by Simmops » 21 Jun 2021 09:47

Hendo Can only beat what's put in front of you and he was still there to stick them in.

Gary Lineker only scored pens and tap ins as well...


Apart from against Brazil :lol:

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Re: England - the future....

by URZZZZ » 21 Jun 2021 10:33

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WestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.

BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.

The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.

I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.


Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO

Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings


Why does everybody hate mings? Its rather pathetic. Hes a good player clearly.


Quite ever the mystery :roll:

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