by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Jun 2021 21:59
by BR0B0T » 19 Jun 2021 22:31
AthleticoSpizz There aint no future, and Englands dreaming.
by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Jun 2021 23:05
by LUX » 20 Jun 2021 14:55
by BR0B0T » 20 Jun 2021 15:12
LUX I always thought it was “ there is no future..... in England’s dreaming”. Both work, I suppose.
by LUX » 20 Jun 2021 15:34
by AthleticoSpizz » 20 Jun 2021 16:08
by fartdad » 20 Jun 2021 16:16
by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Jun 2021 18:59
Simmops Also we could in theory not even qualify in 1st or 2nd.
If we lose 2 - 0 to Czech and Croatia win by 2 goals we will be in 3rd on GD
by Simmops » 20 Jun 2021 19:06
Pepe the HorsemanSimmops Also we could in theory not even qualify in 1st or 2nd.
If we lose 2 - 0 to Czech and Croatia win by 2 goals we will be in 3rd on GD
How many 3rd places go through? Are we pretty much guaranteed to qualify even if we do finish 3rd?
by Snowflake Royal » 20 Jun 2021 22:58
SimmopsPepe the HorsemanSimmops Also we could in theory not even qualify in 1st or 2nd.
If we lose 2 - 0 to Czech and Croatia win by 2 goals we will be in 3rd on GD
How many 3rd places go through? Are we pretty much guaranteed to qualify even if we do finish 3rd?
4
Switzerland probably one
by URZZZZ » 21 Jun 2021 00:08
WestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.
BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.
The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.
I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.
by Simmops » 21 Jun 2021 06:46
URZZZZWestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.
BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.
The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.
I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.
Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO
Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings
by bcubed » 21 Jun 2021 08:25
URZZZZWestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.
BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.
The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.
I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.
Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO
Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings
by Hendo » 21 Jun 2021 08:48
bcubedURZZZZWestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.
BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.
The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.
I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.
Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO
Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings
Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.
He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with
by bcubed » 21 Jun 2021 08:59
HendobcubedURZZZZ
Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO
Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings
Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.
He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with
He won the golden boot at the last World Cup
by Simmops » 21 Jun 2021 09:09
bcubedHendobcubed
Kane' s performances at finals never seem that good to me. Be interesting to see some stats.
He misses things for England he would put away in his sleep for Spurs. He does pass well and draws a foul like no one else but it's goals we could do with
He won the golden boot at the last World Cup
Oh yeh. He did didn't he?
I'm going to try to defend my point nevertheless
2 tap ins 3 penalties and a deflection. QED
What I remember most is a decent chance or 2 spurned against Croatia
Either way he's not the same player for England as he is for Spurs.
by Hendo » 21 Jun 2021 09:23
by Simmops » 21 Jun 2021 09:47
Hendo Can only beat what's put in front of you and he was still there to stick them in.
Gary Lineker only scored pens and tap ins as well...
by URZZZZ » 21 Jun 2021 10:33
SimmopsURZZZZWestYorksRoyal My one positive slant on last night is that the result barely matters, and tournament winners often have the odd stinker in the group stage. Portugal were dire in their group in 2016, France unconvincing in 2018. So maybe we shouldn't get carried away.
BUT
- Never seen Kane look as poor as the past 2 games
- No tempo and intensity
- Not enough experience and leadership to help us gain a foothold when up against things.
The last point is the most concerning. No team gets everything their own way at this level, and the best teams find a way of playing their way into the game and turning the tide. We're a young team who don’t seem to have that ability, and I can see the top teams getting on top of us. We are still capable of playing well, but didn't show resilience when things were going against us.
I think Henderson and Maguire should come back in if fit. Henderson would have added intensity and tempo yesterday. We need some vocal leaders on the pitch.
Kane was as poor in the 2016 Euros IMO
Hard to justify changing CBs with 2/2 clean sheets, even if we all hate Mings
Why does everybody hate mings? Its rather pathetic. Hes a good player clearly.
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