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Re: Euro 2020

by Zip » 12 Jul 2021 22:28

I miss Reading home defeats. :cry:

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Re: Euro 2020

by Snowflake Royal » 13 Jul 2021 08:03

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He was cautious but it worked right the way through the tournament. Just felt in the first half last night they should have gone for it as the Italians were rattled. Lessons to be learnt.

I'm sure it wasn't Gareth's game plan to sit around our 18 yard box and waste every scrap of possession we had. He let the players down a bit by not adapting and changing it to counter Italy's growing confidence. The team let him down by retreating into their shell and panicking every time they got the ball.

The lack of experience on the pitch told. The players could have sorted out the problem themselves and tried to play more to the original strategy. But they didn't. And Southgate could have done more to force that fix on the pitch with subs, but he didn't.

Trying to blame Southgate as the cause of the problem, is just trying to find a scapegoat. We know what Rother's position has been from the start. Sterling, Southgate and the style hasn't been good enough for him at any point. So I think we can just dismiss his criticisms of someone disgruntled finally able to find fault to push their transparent agenda


Weird. You’ve just agreed with me. :lol:

I know you hate it when somebody makes a correct observation which you didn’t have the foresight or balls to make yourself but that post is just illogical.

Thanks though.

You didn't need to post for us to know you wouldn't get the distinction between my acknowledging there were things the whole England team and set up could have improved upon and your scapegoating and vilifying Southgate.

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Re: Euro 2020

by Hendo » 13 Jul 2021 08:26

Zip I miss Reading home defeats. :cry:


Wont be long :)

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Re: Euro 2020

by NathStPaul » 13 Jul 2021 08:30

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Zip I miss Reading home defeats. :cry:


Wont be long :)

Hey, thats not fair. We have to go on a great run of wins over 8 games to build false hope before we start losing at home. Its that hope that kills us.

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Re: Euro 2020

by URZZZZ » 13 Jul 2021 08:33

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Zip I miss Reading home defeats. :cry:


Wont be long :)

Hey, thats not fair. We have to go on a great run of wins over 8 games to build false hope before we start losing at home. Its that hope that kills us.


No Esteves, Semedo, Aluko or Baldock anymore, who can we bring on to chase games now?


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Re: Euro 2020

by Silver Fox » 13 Jul 2021 08:34

Royal Rother Gary Lineker insisted that England should have been braver in trying to win in normal time.

“I think going forward England have to find a way of being more attack minded,” he wrote.

“Braver in possession and throwing more people forward.

“We have the forward talent to scare teams, at present we seem scared ourselves to release that talent.”

Spot on, but the word “we” should be replaced by “he”.


He have the forward talent to scare teams, at present he seem scared ourselves to release that talent?

Nah, that just sounds ridiculous

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Re: Euro 2020

by Sanguine » 13 Jul 2021 08:35

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The lack of experience on the pitch told. The players could have sorted out the problem themselves and tried to play more to the original strategy. But they didn't. And Southgate could have done more to force that fix on the pitch with subs, but he didn't.

Trying to blame Southgate as the cause of the problem, is just trying to find a scapegoat. We know what Rother's position has been from the start. Sterling, Southgate and the style hasn't been good enough for him at any point. So I think we can just dismiss his criticisms of someone disgruntled finally able to find fault to push their transparent agenda


100%, spot on.

The likes of Rother have made their mind up, and aren't for changing. A view made to look a little ridiculous when it becomes clear that nothing short of winning the tournament (or, it seems, losing 4-2 to Germany in R16 playing expansive football) would suffice.

A team has to be near perfect to win a major tournament - unfortunately Southgate's big tactical miss, and as Ian says, the players themselves going into their shell, happened at a critical point of the final.

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Re: Euro 2020

by NathStPaul » 13 Jul 2021 08:36

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Wont be long :)

Hey, thats not fair. We have to go on a great run of wins over 8 games to build false hope before we start losing at home. Its that hope that kills us.


No Esteves, Semedo, Aluko or Baldock anymore, who can we bring on to chase games now?

Think we may actually have a better chance without 3 of the names you mention.

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Re: Euro 2020

by URZZZZ » 13 Jul 2021 08:37

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NathStPaul Hey, thats not fair. We have to go on a great run of wins over 8 games to build false hope before we start losing at home. Its that hope that kills us.


No Esteves, Semedo, Aluko or Baldock anymore, who can we bring on to chase games now?

Think we may actually have a better chance without 3 of the names you mention.


I hope Semedo isn’t the 1!


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Re: Euro 2020

by Zip » 13 Jul 2021 08:46

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No Esteves, Semedo, Aluko or Baldock anymore, who can we bring on to chase games now?

Think we may actually have a better chance without 3 of the names you mention.


I hope Semedo isn’t the 1!


Are you suggesting we re-sign Sone? 8)

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Re: Euro 2020

by NathStPaul » 13 Jul 2021 08:47

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NathStPaul Think we may actually have a better chance without 3 of the names you mention.


I hope Semedo isn’t the 1!


Are you suggesting we re-sign Sone? 8)

He is a known Sone fan boy.

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Re: Euro 2020

by LUX » 13 Jul 2021 09:46

NathStPaul He is a known Sone fan boy.



like a Rhinestone cowboy

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Re: Euro 2020

by Winston Biscuit » 13 Jul 2021 10:25

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NathStPaul He is a known Sone fan boy.



like a Rhinestone cowboy


:lol:


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Re: Euro 2020

by Donny Ironside » 13 Jul 2021 11:25

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NathStPaul He is a known Sone fan boy.



like a Rhinestone cowboy

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Euro 2020

by URZZZZ » 13 Jul 2021 13:08

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I hope Semedo isn’t the 1!


Are you suggesting we re-sign Sone? 8)

He is a known Sone fan boy.


He has certain qualities against certain teams that play in a certain way and don’t make it easy for us

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Re: Euro 2020

by Ascotexgunner » 13 Jul 2021 20:37

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NathStPaul Hey, thats not fair. We have to go on a great run of wins over 8 games to build false hope before we start losing at home. Its that hope that kills us.


No Esteves, Semedo, Aluko or Baldock anymore, who can we bring on to chase games now?

Think we may actually have a better chance without 3 of the names you mention.


The last 2 are Derbys problem now.....just to add to all their other problems.

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Re: Euro 2020

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Jul 2021 20:42

Other than the (obvious) £ implications...Aluko wasn’t much of a “problem” to us last season..had some decent cameos.

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Re: Euro 2020

by URZZZZ » 14 Jul 2021 11:05

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No Esteves, Semedo, Aluko or Baldock anymore, who can we bring on to chase games now?

Think we may actually have a better chance without 3 of the names you mention.


The last 2 are Derbys problem now.....just to add to all their other problems.


:roll:

You’re obsessed

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Re: Euro 2020

by St Pauli » 15 Jul 2021 02:40

A bit more detail to add to Green’s link from the bbc: https://youtu.be/BO_QQlGmmJY

Absolute lol for anyone thinking England will be hosting an international tournament anytime soon. Certainly not in 2030. The bid may as well spunk the funding on curry or something because there’s no way we’re getting it, England as a nation just has a far too immature and toxic attitude to alcohol and football. Even if it’s a minority, it’s a big enough minority to ruin a single event for most of those involved. I’m not sure how you could have policed the final better without creating the same problems you had outside Wembley somewhere else, with that number if pissheads involved.

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