by Zip » 08 Jun 2021 18:32
by Ascotexgunner » 08 Jun 2021 21:49
Zip Winners France
Runners up England
Shock group exit Italy
Surprise package Wales
by Zip » 08 Jun 2021 21:59
by Zip » 08 Jun 2021 22:01
AscotexgunnerZip Winners France
Runners up England
Shock group exit Italy
Surprise package Wales
Your facing a 0 out of 4 there Zip.
France would be the best bet out of that lot but I think Italy look strong and Germany seem to have found form a bit after a terrible last world cup.
I thought Wales more than matched France til the sending off.....and even with 10 men we opened up that back line a couple of times. A better finisher would have punished them. I think that's their weakness.
As for England....last 8 at best. They will have to beat one of they big boys....which they never do. Remember Kane and Rashford arnt a Vokes or HRK.....they can do it in the big games.
by Sutekh » 09 Jun 2021 13:21
ZipAscotexgunnerZip Winners France
Runners up England
Shock group exit Italy
Surprise package Wales
Your facing a 0 out of 4 there Zip.
France would be the best bet out of that lot but I think Italy look strong and Germany seem to have found form a bit after a terrible last world cup.
I thought Wales more than matched France til the sending off.....and even with 10 men we opened up that back line a couple of times. A better finisher would have punished them. I think that's their weakness.
As for England....last 8 at best. They will have to beat one of they big boys....which they never do. Remember Kane and Rashford arnt a Vokes or HRK.....they can do it in the big games.
See my post below yours my darling. My boys have qualified. That’s all I care about. I was there when they did. After 40 years of misery it means something to me.
by Winston Biscuit » 09 Jun 2021 13:49
by Hendo » 09 Jun 2021 13:50
Winston Biscuit Prediction - Wales will not finish in the top 2 in their group, in fact I am tempted to say they will finish bottom
(ducks for cover)
by tulip » 09 Jun 2021 14:06
by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Jun 2021 14:09
SutekhZipAscotexgunner
Your facing a 0 out of 4 there Zip.
France would be the best bet out of that lot but I think Italy look strong and Germany seem to have found form a bit after a terrible last world cup.
I thought Wales more than matched France til the sending off.....and even with 10 men we opened up that back line a couple of times. A better finisher would have punished them. I think that's their weakness.
As for England....last 8 at best. They will have to beat one of they big boys....which they never do. Remember Kane and Rashford arnt a Vokes or HRK.....they can do it in the big games.
See my post below yours my darling. My boys have qualified. That’s all I care about. I was there when they did. After 40 years of misery it means something to me.
England as tournament runners up with one of France, Germany or Portugal most likely waiting for them if they win their group
England’s best bet IMO is to somehow contrive to not win the group, qualify in 2nd and get one of Spain, Poland, Slovakia or Sweden. Don’t get me wrong there’s nothing more I’d like to see than winning the group then “crush” one of France, Germany or Portugal but given their previous record it just isn’t very likely.
Here’s hoping Hungary somehow upset the apple cart.
by Zip » 09 Jun 2021 14:24
Winston Biscuit Prediction - Wales will not finish in the top 2 in their group, in fact I am tempted to say they will finish bottom
(ducks for cover)
by Zip » 09 Jun 2021 14:25
HendoWinston Biscuit Prediction - Wales will not finish in the top 2 in their group, in fact I am tempted to say they will finish bottom
(ducks for cover)
If Turkey are as strong as you alluded to yesterday, then that is quite the possibility.
by Winston Biscuit » 09 Jun 2021 14:30
ZipWinston Biscuit Prediction - Wales will not finish in the top 2 in their group, in fact I am tempted to say they will finish bottom
(ducks for cover)
I’ve always said that Winstonian was a jelly baby. I stand by this after these appalling comments.
by Hendo » 09 Jun 2021 14:48
tulip Is the football fever in the UK this Euro tournament about the same as always or somewhat more subdued due to Covid? It certainly seems to be less fevered here (apart from the football themed ads which are as annoying as ever), maybe its because the Dutch nation expects less.
by Franchise FC » 09 Jun 2021 15:04
by fartdad » 09 Jun 2021 15:24
by Zip » 09 Jun 2021 16:38
fartdad I’m in favor of the smaller WC and Euros, I think it’s a travesty to the tournament that they let crappy nations in. Sure it might make the people of a country like Moldova or wales excited for the three games before they get knocked out but what does it really add? Greece won the Euro being an underdog, it wasn’t impossible, but let’s the save the qualifiers for the crap teams and let the cream of the crop in the finals.
by URZZZZ » 09 Jun 2021 17:48
Zipfartdad I’m in favor of the smaller WC and Euros, I think it’s a travesty to the tournament that they let crappy nations in. Sure it might make the people of a country like Moldova or wales excited for the three games before they get knocked out but what does it really add? Greece won the Euro being an underdog, it wasn’t impossible, but let’s the save the qualifiers for the crap teams and let the cream of the crop in the finals.
Yeah you’re right. Wales (where nearly 50% of their squad were born in England )only made it to the semi finals last time around
by Zip » 09 Jun 2021 19:25
URZZZZZipfartdad I’m in favor of the smaller WC and Euros, I think it’s a travesty to the tournament that they let crappy nations in. Sure it might make the people of a country like Moldova or wales excited for the three games before they get knocked out but what does it really add? Greece won the Euro being an underdog, it wasn’t impossible, but let’s the save the qualifiers for the crap teams and let the cream of the crop in the finals.
Yeah you’re right. Wales (where nearly 50% of their squad were born in England )only made it to the semi finals last time around
by Ascotexgunner » 09 Jun 2021 21:43
Zip One for you Ascot. Elis James Football Nation on iPlayer on the history of Wales national team. So many painful memories etched in my memory starting with the bent East German referee when we played the second leg of the European Championship quarter final with Yugoslavia in 1976 having won our group.
Then the Joe Jordan handball in the winner takes all WC qualifier v Scotland at Anfield in 77.
Onto the agonising goal so late on that cost us qualification for the Euros in 84
Then the bloody Scots again in the crucial final qualifier in 85 with another dodgy penalty.
The pain continues with Bodin’s penalty hitting the bar in the winner takes all WC qualifier v Romania in 93. Then the Euro play off defeat to the Russians and just when there was some optimism returning to the national team the passing of Gary Speed. We were at his last game a 4-1 win v Norway.
When I look at all the crucial pens involving Wales and Reading over the years in the massive matches both have always missed them and the opposition have always scored. Every. Bloody. Time.
by Zip » 09 Jun 2021 23:19
AscotexgunnerZip One for you Ascot. Elis James Football Nation on iPlayer on the history of Wales national team. So many painful memories etched in my memory starting with the bent East German referee when we played the second leg of the European Championship quarter final with Yugoslavia in 1976 having won our group.
Then the Joe Jordan handball in the winner takes all WC qualifier v Scotland at Anfield in 77.
Onto the agonising goal so late on that cost us qualification for the Euros in 84
Then the bloody Scots again in the crucial final qualifier in 85 with another dodgy penalty.
The pain continues with Bodin’s penalty hitting the bar in the winner takes all WC qualifier v Romania in 93. Then the Euro play off defeat to the Russians and just when there was some optimism returning to the national team the passing of Gary Speed. We were at his last game a 4-1 win v Norway.
When I look at all the crucial pens involving Wales and Reading over the years in the massive matches both have always missed them and the opposition have always scored. Every. Bloody. Time.
The 76 one was painful. We did the hard bit away on an absolutely terrible pitch. The referee was an utter disgrace in the home leg and I remember the bottles raining down on the Yugoslav bench. They were a horrible lot.
78 was the most pain I've experienced with football, Reading an all included. Poor Terry went to the grave before that Scottish filth admitted he had handled it.
How I cheered Peru and Iran in that World Cup.
Then the tartan bastards gets that decision in 85......
As for Bodin, never understood why he took it. All those penalty takers on the pitch and they let him take it......I was there that night. Close to 78 in pain but we masterminded our own downfall that evening.
TBH the Russia playoff never surprised me result wise. We really were heading for our lowest ebb after that.
All credit goes to John Toshak. To clear out the entire senior squad (the likes of Savage etc) and promote the U23 team as the first team and the U21s to the U23s and so on was a master stroke. Sadly the results cost him his job but long term we got back on our feet.
If there's one set of results I'm desperate to see.....it's that England put at least 6 past the cheats and they finish bottom with a goal difference of -15 and they don't qualify again for another 25 years.
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