by BR0B0T » 30 Dec 2019 01:43
by Simmops » 30 Dec 2019 07:46
BR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
by Sanguine » 30 Dec 2019 10:13
SimmopsBR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
Xg is a load of shite
by Sutekh » 30 Dec 2019 10:28
SanguineSimmopsBR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
Xg is a load of shite
Only to the unintelligent. It's just a data tool. It's not trying to 'prove' anything, it's a reference against which you can compare team's and player's performances (for example, Liverpool's expected goals conceded last season was something like 8 or 9 higher than actual, i.e. that was the data-based contribution of Alisson to the team).
The clear inference for this season is that Liverpool have been absolutely clinical.
by Simmops » 30 Dec 2019 11:14
SanguineSimmopsBR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
Xg is a load of shite
Only to the unintelligent. It's just a data tool. It's not trying to 'prove' anything, it's a reference against which you can compare team's and player's performances (for example, Liverpool's expected goals conceded last season was something like 8 or 9 higher than actual, i.e. that was the data-based contribution of Alisson to the team).
The clear inference for this season is that Liverpool have been absolutely clinical.
by Sanguine » 30 Dec 2019 12:35
SimmopsSanguineSimmops
Xg is a load of shite
Only to the unintelligent. It's just a data tool. It's not trying to 'prove' anything, it's a reference against which you can compare team's and player's performances (for example, Liverpool's expected goals conceded last season was something like 8 or 9 higher than actual, i.e. that was the data-based contribution of Alisson to the team).
The clear inference for this season is that Liverpool have been absolutely clinical.
Are you inferring I am unintelligent?
by Simmops » 30 Dec 2019 12:41
SanguineSimmopsSanguine
Only to the unintelligent. It's just a data tool. It's not trying to 'prove' anything, it's a reference against which you can compare team's and player's performances (for example, Liverpool's expected goals conceded last season was something like 8 or 9 higher than actual, i.e. that was the data-based contribution of Alisson to the team).
The clear inference for this season is that Liverpool have been absolutely clinical.
Are you inferring I am unintelligent?
I'm suggesting that xG can't be 'a load of shite', given that it isn't supposed to really do anything except collect up data and calculate stuff based thereon. And once you understand the point of xG, and its related data, you stop calling it 'a load of shite'. It's like calling a roadmap 'a load of shite' because it doesn't show you how to get into the pub once you've found the car park.
by BR0B0T » 30 Dec 2019 12:44
SanguineSimmopsBR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
Xg is a load of shite
Only to the unintelligent. It's just a data tool. It's not trying to 'prove' anything, it's a reference against which you can compare team's and player's performances (for example, Liverpool's expected goals conceded last season was something like 8 or 9 higher than actual, i.e. that was the data-based contribution of Alisson to the team).
The clear inference for this season is that Liverpool have been absolutely clinical.
by BR0B0T » 01 Jan 2020 10:13
BR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
by Sutekh » 01 Jan 2020 10:36
by BR0B0T » 01 Jan 2020 12:05
Sutekh For reference how is xG for a team calculated?
by Sanguine » 02 Jan 2020 11:32
BR0B0TBR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50822875
Was thinking about Liverpool in relation to xG...xG only measures shots so...
...the dangerous deliveries you get from TAA and Robertson etc are not recorded
by Sanguine » 02 Jan 2020 11:34
by BR0B0T » 02 Jan 2020 15:44
SanguineBR0B0TBR0B0T According to various xG models,
Liverpool have 15/16 points more* than they should have!
Man City have around 4 less* than they should and...
Leicester also have about 12 points more than they should.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50822875
Was thinking about Liverpool in relation to xG...xG only measures shots so...
...the dangerous deliveries you get from TAA and Robertson etc are not recorded
Indeed, albeit maybe the chances created by their crosses are afforded a higher probability of leading to a goal. But the explanation would certainly fit the gap between model and actuals.
by Sanguine » 03 Jan 2020 10:17
Old Man Andrews Sheffield United putting up a valiant fight at Anfield. 1-0 Liverpool after 3 minutes.
by Sutekh » 03 Jan 2020 13:11
SanguineOld Man Andrews Sheffield United putting up a valiant fight at Anfield. 1-0 Liverpool after 3 minutes.
They actually played pretty well, just stuck to their gameplan and had a few chances. But Liverpool won comfortably, which shows how far ahead of the rest they are at the moment. Unbeaten in 51 now at Anfield - albeit what is nuts is that they are still around two years shy of Mourinho's long unbeaten run at Stamford Bridge.
by Sanguine » 03 Jan 2020 13:20
SutekhSanguineOld Man Andrews Sheffield United putting up a valiant fight at Anfield. 1-0 Liverpool after 3 minutes.
They actually played pretty well, just stuck to their gameplan and had a few chances. But Liverpool won comfortably, which shows how far ahead of the rest they are at the moment. Unbeaten in 51 now at Anfield - albeit what is nuts is that they are still around two years shy of Mourinho's long unbeaten run at Stamford Bridge.
Long unbeaten home runs have been done before in the top division (let alone the lower divisions). Didn’t Liverpool themselves manage an 80 odd run of games in the late 70s/early 80s?
by Ark Royal » 03 Jan 2020 20:17
SanguineSutekhSanguine
They actually played pretty well, just stuck to their gameplan and had a few chances. But Liverpool won comfortably, which shows how far ahead of the rest they are at the moment. Unbeaten in 51 now at Anfield - albeit what is nuts is that they are still around two years shy of Mourinho's long unbeaten run at Stamford Bridge.
Long unbeaten home runs have been done before in the top division (let alone the lower divisions). Didn’t Liverpool themselves manage an 80 odd run of games in the late 70s/early 80s?
I did wonder. It's annoyingly difficult to find lists of all-time English football records, everything refers to 'of the Premier League era', albeit it does appear Chelsea's 86-game unbeaten home run under Mourinho is an all-time English league record. Liverpool's 51 is second since the Premier League's inception.
by Sutekh » 03 Jan 2020 20:31
Ark RoyalSanguineSutekh
Long unbeaten home runs have been done before in the top division (let alone the lower divisions). Didn’t Liverpool themselves manage an 80 odd run of games in the late 70s/early 80s?
I did wonder. It's annoyingly difficult to find lists of all-time English football records, everything refers to 'of the Premier League era', albeit it does appear Chelsea's 86-game unbeaten home run under Mourinho is an all-time English league record. Liverpool's 51 is second since the Premier League's inception.
Reading once held the Football League record for home games without defeat: 55 set in 1935. Millwall beat the record in 1967.
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