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[Warfield Royal]

FAC Prelim (Re-arrangement) Bishops Cleeve 2 v 1 Ascot United

Just got back from the game...

[Four Of Clubs]

... a few more details from last night's local NL:


FAC Prelim Replay Bishops Cleeve 2-1 Ascot United – Bps take lead on 2’ - reportedly Yellamen’s consolation goal deep in injury time having conceded a 2nd goal on 90’? Hastily re-arranged league game now THIS Friday H v Witney?

CONFN Oxford City 4-2 Boston Utd

CONFS Basingstoke 3-2 Truro City – ‘stoke 2 up inside 10’
CONFS Maidenhead Utd 3-2 Farnborough

SOUTHP Chesham United 3-0 Bashley (incl 1 for Michael Chennells)

SOUTH1C AFC Hayes 3-4 Guildford City
SOUTH1C Ashford Town (Middx) 5-0 Fleet Town
SOUTH1C Chalfont St. Peter 0-1 Burnham Ab 81’floodlight failure
SOUTH1C Godalming Town 4-1 Uxbridge
SOUTH1C North Greenford United 0-2 Beaconsfield SYCOB
SOUTH1C Slough Town 4-0 Woodford United
SOUTH1C Thatcham Town 2-0 Chertsey Town – another for Seaward

SOUTH1S&W Winchester City 0-1 Abingdon United
SOUTH1S&W Didcot Town 2-2 Wimborne Town

CCLP Chessington & Hook United 2-6 Cove
CCLP Dorking 0-1 Epsom & Ewell

HELLP Abingdon Town 0-1 Binfield
HELLP Flackwell Heath 3-2 Oxford City Nomads
HELLP Holyport 1-1 Ardley United
HELLP Marlow 4-2 Newbury att 101 - Ray Spence still managed to notch two - and even according to the Marlow report could/should have had more - Marlow have Thatcham in the Cup on Sat whilst Newbury host Nomads
HELLP Wantage Town 3-0 Kidlington
HELLP Witney Town 1-1 Highmoor Ibis – good result for H/I
HELLP Wokingham & Emmbrook 4-1 Reading Town - no official crowd given yet - I was there and counted above 80 odd. RTFC stifled W&E and the Sumas were oddly lethargic for long periods - only really woke up when RTFC equalised 2nd half with a freak og - defender challenges Town forward for ball 30+ yards out and manages to neatly lob his own keeper!
Once W&E roused themselves for the last 20', they were able to blow a very poor RTFC away. Visitors had a lot of possession bit couldn't fashion any geniune chances with it. Sumas front two were a class above tonight - once they got going.

[Royalist]

Truro handed 10 point penalty. Makes me laugh that two clubs who not that long ago were fighting each other for promotion are now in admin and wound up. All that money spent for very little actual gain. Re-enforces my point about a spending cap. Would be very hard to administer as some clubs already doctor their gates by giving away free season tickets etc

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Windsor FC cut their playing and coaching budget to ZERO. Whats that all about then?

[Royalist]

Mostly Kevin Stott has stopped dreaming and realised he is spunking over a grand and a half a week on non league football.

[Four Of Clubs]

This w/e NL fixtures - incl part of the FA Cup draw - rest available on http://www.thefa.com

Friday 7th Sept

FAC 1st Q
Wooton Bassett Town v Highworth Town

Hellenic Premier
Ascot Utd v Witney Town

Saturday 8th Sept

FA Cup 1st Qualifying Round

St Neots Town v Peterborough Northern Star
Wisbech Town v Kettering Town
Bugbrooke St Michaels v Dereham Town
Tilbury v Lowestoft Town
Heybridge Swifts v AFC Sudbury
Soham Town Rangers v Maldon & Tiptree
Basildon United v Thurrock
Bury Town v Canvey Island
Wroxham v Brentwood Town
Leiston v Southend Manor
Concord Rangers v Needham Market
East Thurrock United v Witham Town
Grays Athletic v Norwich United
Aveley v Hadleigh United
Dunstable Town v Ashford Town (Middx)
AFC Kempston Rovers v Hampton & Richmond Borough
Chesham United v Northwood
Enfield Town v St Margaretsbury
Harrow Borough v St Albans City
Hemel Hempstead Town v Waltham Forest
Waltham Abbey v Bedford Town
Hendon v Potters Bar Town
Uxbridge v Berkhamsted
Ware v Hitchin Town
Barton Rovers v Arlesey Town
Colney Heath v Harefield United
Wingate & Finchley v Royston Town
Wealdstone v Biggleswade Town
Bishop's Cleeve v Bracknell Town
Chalfont St Peter v Newport Pagnell Town
Windsor v Didcot Town
Cinderford Town v Merthyr Town_
Hungerford Town v Banbury United
North Leigh v Wantage Town
Marlow v Thatcham Town
Littlehampton Town v Eastbourne Town
VCD Athletic v Horsham
Slough Town v Lingfield
Faversham Town v Margate
Bognor Regis Town v Epsom & Ewell
Badshot Lea v Folkestone Invicta
Leatherhead v Tooting & Mitcham United
Redhill v Lewes
Beckenham Town v Metropolitan Police
South Park v Walton & Hersham
Chipstead v Maidstone United
Pagham v Carshalton Athletic
Guildford City v Kingstonian
Whitehawk v Sittingbourne
Thamesmead Town v Worthing
Hastings United v Chatham Town
Fareham Town v Christchurch
Newport (IoW) v Horndean
Chippenham Town v Mangotsfield United
Blackfield & Langley v Almondsbury UWE
Totton & Eling v Weymouth
Winchester City v Yate Town
Swindon Supermarine v AFC Totton
Sholing v Melksham Town
Bashley v Gosport Borough
Plymouth Parkway v Buckland Athletic
Gillingham Town v Taunton Town
Bideford AFC v Bodmin Town
Larkhall Athletic v Frome Town
Clevedon Town v Sherborne Town
... have no idea where we are bound- possibly a fair distance to a 'new' ground - kids activities not delaying me this w/e. If possible will try and stick with the FA Cup but I'm seriously OFF the M25 having been stuck on it on successive Saturday PMs, in different directions too. - probably narrows it right down to Pagham or Totton & E.

CONFS
Basingstoke v AFC Hornchurch
Billericay v Eastleigh
Boreham Wood v Farnborough
Bromley v Bath City
Dorchester v Chelmsford
Dover v Hayes & Yeading
Havant and W v Tonbridge Angels
Maidenhead Utd v Truro City
Salisbury v Eastbourne Borough
Welling v Staines Town
Weston-S-Mare v Sutton Utd

SOUTH1C
Aylesbury v Leighton Town
Burnham v AFC Hayes
Fleet Town v Chertsey Town
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United v Wimborne Town
ISTH1S
Corinthian-Casuals v Burgess Hill Town
CCLP
13:00 Ash United v Guernsey
Camberley Town v Molesey
Chessington & Hook United v Hartley Wintney
Croydon v Colliers Wood United
Egham Town v Dorking
Horley Town v Bedfont Sports
Raynes Park Vale v Hanworth Villa
Sandhurst Town v Wembley
CCL1
Banstead Athletic v Sheerwater
Eversley & California v Warlingham
Farleigh Rovers v Spelthorne Sports
Feltham v Frimley Green
Knaphill v Epsom Athletic
Mole Valley SCR v Worcester Park
South Kilburn v Cobham
Staines Lammas v AFC Croydon
Westfield v CB Hounslow United

HELLP
Ardley United v Shrivenham
Flackwell Heath v Abingdon Town
Highmoor Ibis v Thame United
Kidlington v Binfield
Newbury v Oxford City Nomads
Reading Town v Cheltenham Saracens
Slimbridge v Wokingham & Emmbrook
HELL1E
Chalfont Wasps v Didcot Town Res
Chinnor v Rayners Lane
Easington Sports v Penn & Tylers Green
Finchampstead v AFC Hinksey
Headington Amateurs v Henley Town
Woodley Town v Milton United

HELL1W
Clanfield v Brimscombe & Thrupp
Cricklade Town v Carterton
Hook Norton v New College Swindon
Lambourn Sports v Purton
Lydney Town v Fairford Town
Tytherington Rocks v Letcombe

WESS1
East Cowes Victoria v Tadley Calleva
Fleet Spurs v Andover New Street
Pewsey Vale v Hythe & Dibden
Whitchurch United v Laverstock & Ford

Sunday 9th Sept
FA Cup 1st Q
13:30 London Lions v Dunstable Town @ Hemel Hempstead FC
14:00 Godalming Town v Dulwich Hamlet
Greenwich Borough v Cray Wanderers

[Royal Rother]

Windsor FC cut their playing and coaching budget to ZERO. Whats that all about then?

This explains it pretty well...

http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/sport/ ... indsor-fc/

KEVIN Stott this week opened his heart about the decision to withdraw the playing budget at Windsor FC.

Stott founded the club after the demise of Windsor & Eton and last season funded a team that finished runners-up to Guildford City in the Combined Counties Premier Division.

A reduced budget was agreed in principal with manager Keith Scott for the current campaign - fuelling ambitions of the Stag Meadow-based team winning the title.

But, after prolonged negotiations with The Crown over a long-term lease of the ground and its affect on plans for a new 3-G pitch and gym facility, Stott pulled playing funds and announced a zero-budget.

The decision was met by disappointment from the players and eventually led to Scott's resignation.

Stott, however, insists he is now better-placed to map out Windsor FC's future - starting with negotiations with a future gym partner.

Speaking exclusively to the Observer, he said: "At the end of last season I sat down with Keith and agreed a budget - subject to a gym partnership being in place.

"But the likelihood of that happening in the short term was unrealistic. That is when we sat down again and I suggested we go into next year with no budget.

"I do not want us to be in a position where we are top of the league and in the quarter-finals of the FA Vase and not be able to fund the rest of the season.

"With hindsight it was over optimistic of me to think we could navigate the income streams before October."

Stott continued: "In the end we had to make a decision - failure to respond to the need for change is the biggest challenge.

"The main objective is to protect the immediate future of the football club and be in a position to work on the long-term future.

"We have still potentially got a gym partnership with Summit on the table - we are progressing on how we can fund that.

"We originally started on the 3-G but we might be able to run the whole thing together."

Stott, chairman of Windsor FC, added: "Our preference is to work with a local company for obvious reasons - if not we will explore other options.

"Now that we have a more robust business model it is a case of when rather than if - it's about creating space and time for funding and planning opportunities.

"I do not want to put a time scale on it - I have learnt there are too many things out of our control to dictate a time frame.

"If you are under pressure from time you will get a result, but not the result you may be expecting."

Stott was not surprised by Scott's decision to resign - suggesting the club are working to a different timescale - and he fully respects the ex-professional striker's decision to walk through the Stag Meadow exit door.

He said: "I do not know whether Keith was emotively involved in Windsor FC or not but I respect his right to earn a second income.

"I am genuinely not prepared to criticise his right to pursue that opportunity - I have always said to him to push for a professional position.

"We are working on different timescales - in my head 10 years is nothing but for others that can be too long to wait.

"There is no way of knowing how long it will take us so it is unfair on Keith to stay around.

"Equally, I hope he respects our decision - it is kind of a double-edged sword."

Stott continued: "I recognise Keith and the players are effectively semi-professional and for a lot of them the ability to earn a second income stream is important.

"I absolutely respect their decision to go but equally I respect their decision if they choose to stay. I am not saying you have to go - but if you stay it is on a voluntary basis."

Scott's resignation was quickly followed by the popular appointment of Mick Woodham - a former Windsor & Eton player and Windsor-based coach.

Stott said: "Mick managed the youth team last year and played for Windsor in the late 1990's.

"He captained the reserves and I remember presenting him with their player of the season award.

"We needed to move quickly to give him the opportunity to talk to the existing players before Saturday - we wanted to see who will be a part of Monday night's game.

"The acquisition of a first class coach to support Micky will help but we will take our time."

[floyd__streete]

So basically this Stott character overstretched a bit and has had to backpedal furiously?

Be a long, long time til Maidenhead and Windsor play each other competitively again I'd say

[Royalist]

Yep pretty much. Odd that he saw the errors of his ways at the Olympics which finished a while ago! He spins better than Shane Warne! That said however he has come to this view is the right one.

As for Maidenhead are they not funded by a bloke? If he pulls out are you not in trouble too? 'Sugar' daddies at all non league levels should only be allowed to invest in facilities and youth and NOT wage bills!

[Royal Rother]

So basically this Stott character overstretched a bit and has had to backpedal furiously?

Be a long, long time til Maidenhead and Windsor play each other competitively again I'd say

If that's what you or anybody else wants to read into it then far be it from me to spoil your fun, but I think I don't think there's any real ambiguity in the article I've quoted.

He was only ever going to fund the club for 1 season and when it became clear that the income streams required to secure the long-term, benefactorless, future of the club were unlikely to be forthcoming this season he acted commendably swiftly rather than get drawn into the exact situation he has always said could never work - i.e. Non-League Sugar Daddy.

[floyd__streete]

As for Maidenhead are they not funded by a bloke? If he pulls out are you not in trouble too? 'Sugar' daddies at all non league levels should only be allowed to invest in facilities and youth and NOT wage bills!

Gentle ribbing aside, I am glad Stott has made this decision because you don't want your club going belly up again. Run it sensibly, they get enough income surely through the gate to move up a level eventually back into the Southern League anyway.

Maidenhead's owner is precisely why they are in the position they are in, ie. AGM Cup winners 2012. They have spent within budget for the past 2 or 3 seasons of struggle and reaped rewards in terms of a reprieve because other clubs didn't run themselves properly. Peter Griffin himself (luckily) is a Family Guy; he can be found at every home game in his casual clothes, ocassionally pushing a push-chair and shouting encouragement for the team.

A Maidenhead director who myself and a couple of others on here are friendly with tells us that Eastleigh (for instance) a paying at least one of their players £1,000 a week.....ludicrous expenditure for a club who get barely 300 people through the gate. FTR, that £1,000 p/w equals Maidenhead's budget for their entire squad. So I am happy with the job Griffin is doing, hence why they get £10 from me 10-12 times a season.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Be a long, long time til Maidenhead and Windsor play each other competitively again I'd say

I shall be quoting this again after the Cup draw on Monday! If that does happen, will Royalist, RR and TB have the bottle to stand on the same terrace as the MMS?

[Four Of Clubs]

... Brief update ; both tonight's games end with 3-1 home wins - think Yellamen could start to be recognised as potential contenders this term if they continue with this kind of form.

[Royal Rother]

Be a long, long time til Maidenhead and Windsor play each other competitively again I'd say

I shall be quoting this again after the Cup draw on Monday! If that does happen, will Royalist, RR and TB have the bottle to stand on the same terrace as the MMS?

WTF is the MMS?

[Terminal Boardom]

Be a long, long time til Maidenhead and Windsor play each other competitively again I'd say

I shall be quoting this again after the Cup draw on Monday! If that does happen, will Royalist, RR and TB have the bottle to stand on the same terrace as the MMS?

More than happy to if someone would like to pay for me to fly to the game.

[Terminal Boardom]

So basically this Stott character overstretched a bit and has had to backpedal furiously?

Be a long, long time til Maidenhead and Windsor play each other competitively again I'd say

Overstretched is overstretching it a bit.

[Royalist]

Look gents, players are not signing for the money because there simply is not much of it about.

Keith Scott made it abundantly clear that he does not want players who are at Windsor FC for the money.
So despite what many choose to believe there is no big budget at Windsor. If you had ANY knowledge of what is really going on down at Stag Meadow I think you'd understand and appreciate that.

But quite obviously you don't.

Quote from Rother from a while back. Yes i am bored but Rother you do tow party line very well!

[Royalist]

Is the honeypot still going?

[Four Of Clubs]

Results :

Saturday 8th Sept

FA Cup 1st Qualifying Round

St Neots Town 5-0 Peterborough Northern Star
Wisbech Town 0-0 Kettering Town
Bugbrooke St Michaels 1-4 Dereham Town
Tilbury 0-2 Lowestoft Town
Heybridge Swifts 4-1 AFC Sudbury
Soham Town Rangers 0-2 Maldon & Tiptree
Basildon United 0-3 Thurrock
Bury Town 3-0 Canvey Island
Wroxham 0-5 Brentwood Town
Leiston 5-1 Southend Manor
Concord Rangers 1-0 Needham Market
East Thurrock United 2-0 Witham Town
Grays Athletic 2-1 Norwich United
Aveley 6-1 Hadleigh United
Dunstable Town 2-2 Ashford Town (Middx)
AFC Kempston Rovers 0-3 Hampton & Richmond Borough
Chesham United 0-1 Northwood
Enfield Town 2-0 St Margaretsbury
Harrow Borough 1-3 St Albans City
Hemel Hempstead Town 2-5 Waltham Forest
Waltham Abbey 1-0 Bedford Town
Hendon 1-1 Potters Bar Town
Uxbridge 3-4 Berkhamsted
Ware 0-5 Hitchin Town
Barton Rovers 0-1 Arlesey Town
Colney Heath 1-2 Harefield United
Wingate & Finchley 1-1 Royston Town
Wealdstone 2-0 Biggleswade Town
Bishop's Cleeve 6-0 Bracknell Town
Chalfont St Peter 3-2 Newport Pagnell Town
Windsor 0-1 Didcot Town - crowd 232 - Railwaymen scored on 74'
Cinderford Town 1-1 Merthyr Town_
Hungerford Town 1-1 Banbury United
North Leigh 6-1 Wantage Town
Marlow 1-3 Thatcham Town – bad injury to Philip John with home side on top and a goal up midway through 2nd half – match then delayed 30’ whilst treated on the pitch – 'Kingfishers' grabbed initiative thereafter ex-RTFC Danny Seaward scored twice as the visitors rattled in three in the last 15’ - to turn the game completely on its head.
Littlehampton Town 0-1 Eastbourne Town
VCD Athletic 0-1 Horsham
Slough Town 4-1 Lingfield
Faversham Town 2-2 Margate
Bognor Regis Town 4-0 Epsom & Ewell
Badshot Lea 3-2 Folkestone Invicta - possibly the only real 'shock' locally, with Baddy Lea overcoming a side high up in the STEP above them.
Leatherhead 3-1 Tooting & Mitcham United
Redhill 1-3 Lewes
Beckenham Town 1-7 Metropolitan Police
South Park 1-1 Walton & Hersham
Chipstead 0-4 Maidstone United
Pagham 0-0 Carshalton Athletic
- Ended up here (just) and saw my first stalemate in over a year – nothing between the sides - although two Pyramid steps apart – visitors on top for most of 2nd half but couldn’t find a way through.
Guildford City 0-3 Kingstonian
Whitehawk 5-0 Sittingbourne
Thamesmead Town 2-0 Worthing
Hastings United 3-1 Chatham Town
Fareham Town 2-1 Christchurch
Newport (IoW) 2-0 Horndean
Chippenham Town 3-1 Mangotsfield United
Blackfield & Langley 4-0 Almondsbury UWE
Totton & Eling 2-2 Weymouth
Winchester City 1-2 Yate Town
Swindon Supermarine 0-6 AFC Totton
Sholing 4-0 Melksham Town
Bashley 1-1 Gosport Borough
Plymouth Parkway 1-1 Buckland Athletic
Gillingham Town 0-0 Taunton Town
Bideford AFC 2-2 Bodmin Town
Larkhall Athletic 0-0 Frome Town
Clevedon Town 5-0 Sherborne Town

CONF
Woking 6 –1 Nuneaton

CONFS
Basingstoke 0-2 AFC Hornchurch
Billericay 4-0 Eastleigh
Boreham Wood 3-1 Farnborough
Bromley 1-0 Bath City
Dorchester 1-0 Chelmsford
Dover 0-1 Hayes & Yeading
Havant and W 2-2 Tonbridge Angels
Maidenhead Utd 8-0 Truro City – only 1-0 @ HT
Salisbury 1-0 Eastbourne Borough
Welling 3-2 Staines Town
Weston-S-Mare 1-1 Sutton Utd

CONFN
Oxford City 2-2 Altrincham

SOUTH1C
Aylesbury 1-1 Leighton Town
Burnham 2-1 AFC Hayes
Fleet Town 3-1 Chertsey Town
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United 1-3 Wimborne Town
ISTH1S
Corinthian-Casuals 0-1 Burgess Hill Town
CCLP
Ash United 1-5 Guernsey
Camberley Town 1-1 Molesey
Chessington & Hook United 1-0 Hartley Wintney
Croydon 5-1 Colliers Wood United
Egham Town 3-1 Dorking
Horley Town 2-0 Bedfont Sports
Raynes Park Vale 2-1 Hanworth Villa
Sandhurst Town 2-4 Wembley
.. Guernsey and Egham top with 15 pts from 6 played but Windsor, Molesey and Badshot Lea unbeaten with games in hand
CCL1
Banstead Athletic 2-2 Sheerwater
Eversley & California 7-1 Warlingham
Farleigh Rovers 0-1 Spelthorne Sports
Feltham 1-3 Frimley Green
Knaphill 0-4 Epsom Athletic
Mole Valley SCR 1-2 Worcester Park
South Kilburn 2-0 Cobham
Staines Lammas 2-3 AFC Croydon
Westfield 4-1 CB Hounslow United

HELLP
Ardley United 3-2 Shrivenham
Flackwell Heath 2-0 Abingdon Town
Highmoor Ibis 1-3 Thame United
Kidlington 1-8 {EIGHT} Binfield – was only 0-1 around the 60’ mark
Newbury 1-1 Oxford City Nomads
Reading Town 2-4 Cheltenham Saracens
Slimbridge 1-1 Wokingham & Emmbrook
HELL1E
Chalfont Wasps 2-5 Didcot Town Res
Chinnor 1-3 Rayners Lane
Easington Sports 4-1 Penn & Tylers Green
Finchampstead v AFC Hinksey … reportedly p’poned due to Cricket season over-running – and couldn’t be ‘reversed’ as Hinksey groundshare; now Sat 16th March 2013??
Headington Amateurs 8-0 Henley Town
Woodley Town 2-1 Milton United

HELL1W
Clanfield 1-1 Brimscombe & Thrupp
Cricklade Town 2-2 Carterton
Hook Norton 3-1 New College Swindon
Lambourn Sports 1-1 Purton
Lydney Town 1-2 Fairford Town
Tytherington Rocks 3-3 Letcombe

WESS1
East Cowes Victoria 1-2 Tadley Calleva
Fleet Spurs 4-2 Andover New Street
Pewsey Vale 5-1 Hythe & Dibden
Whitchurch United 6-0 Laverstock & Ford

[Alan Partridge]

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