Rumour - Tomás Esteves

[Hound]

Joao and Ejaria played in the previous game which was also a 'winning team'. So which one aren't we changing?

[tidus_mi2]

Joao and Ejaria played in the previous game which was also a 'winning team'. So which one aren't we changing?

I personally would bring Joao right back in but not Ejaria.

[bcubed]

Joao and Ejaria played in the previous game which was also a 'winning team'. So which one aren't we changing?

Think you’re taking the cliche too literally!
It’s just a guideline

All things being equal you don’t change the team if you’ve won. But you still might bring someone back in if there’s an overwhelming case.

I don’t recall SSC changing the team much and that seemed to work (could be selective memory on my part)
Doesn’t mean he didn’t make the odd change here and there though.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Joao and Ejaria played in the previous game which was also a 'winning team'. So which one aren't we changing?

I personally would bring Joao right back in but not Ejaria.

Bit harsh on Holmes.

[Hound]

Joao and Ejaria played in the previous game which was also a 'winning team'. So which one aren't we changing?

Think you’re taking the cliche too literally!
It’s just a guideline

All things being equal you don’t change the team if you’ve won. But you still might bring someone back in if there’s an overwhelming case.

I don’t recall SSC changing the team much and that seemed to work (could be selective memory on my part)
Doesn’t mean he didn’t make the odd change here and there though.

yeah I am, but just saying its a little meaningless really. Obvs you're not going to make mass changes to a winning side, but if its playing a decent RB over an inexperienced CB playing at RB as we had no one else, its a simple choice

If Esteves is decent of course

[bcubed]

Joao and Ejaria played in the previous game which was also a 'winning team'. So which one aren't we changing?

Think you’re taking the cliche too literally!
It’s just a guideline

All things being equal you don’t change the team if you’ve won. But you still might bring someone back in if there’s an overwhelming case.

I don’t recall SSC changing the team much and that seemed to work (could be selective memory on my part)
Doesn’t mean he didn’t make the odd change here and there though.

yeah I am, but just saying its a little meaningless really. Obvs you're not going to make mass changes to a winning side, but if its playing a decent RB over an inexperienced CB playing at RB as we had no one else, its a simple choice

If Esteves is decent of course

Yeh I think it's just a better principle than making changes (tinkering) apparently for the sake of it

[Snowflake Royal]

I'd play Esteves immediately as long as he's had at least two or three days to train with us. RB's one of the simpler positions to play IMO.

Holmes did well, but didn't look a RB and there were some warning signs. Stick an arm round him, tell him he did good and definitely has a future here as a CB and I'd have no qualms about bringing him in to play if we're short at RB, but Esteves is a specialist.

[Stranded]

I'd play Esteves immediately as long as he's had at least two or three days to train with us. RB's one of the simpler positions to play IMO.

Holmes did well, but didn't look a RB and there were some warning signs. Stick an arm round him, tell him he did good and definitely has a future here as a CB and I'd have no qualms about bringing him in to play if we're short at RB, but Esteves is a specialist.

Traditional full back may have been "simple" but the role is much more complex these days. There us a much greater expectation that the player can attack and defend almost equally well, timing and decision making massively important, get it wrong and the whole defensive shape is Fubared.

[Snowflake Royal]

I'd play Esteves immediately as long as he's had at least two or three days to train with us. RB's one of the simpler positions to play IMO.

Holmes did well, but didn't look a RB and there were some warning signs. Stick an arm round him, tell him he did good and definitely has a future here as a CB and I'd have no qualms about bringing him in to play if we're short at RB, but Esteves is a specialist.

Traditional full back may have been "simple" but the role is much more complex these days. There us a much greater expectation that the player can attack and defend almost equally well, timing and decision making massively important, get it wrong and the whole defensive shape is Fubared.

Think most roles have got more complex as things have got more fluid and pass focused.

Still think it's the simplest of all of them, and requires the least integration.

[RoyalBlue]

I'd play Esteves immediately as long as he's had at least two or three days to train with us. RB's one of the simpler positions to play IMO.

Holmes did well, but didn't look a RB and there were some warning signs. Stick an arm round him, tell him he did good and definitely has a future here as a CB and I'd have no qualms about bringing him in to play if we're short at RB, but Esteves is a specialist.

Not necessarily disagreeing but some clearly thought he did really well and looked a RB, hence his (surprise) inclusion in the Championship Team of The Week.

[RoyalBlue]

Or he will just be on the bench as it takes time to adjust to English football....

Nothing like adjusting to the game.... by watching it and not playing. Did you learn that on throughout all your Sunday league playing days?

Another cracker from you. Keep em coming, its entertaining.

Agreed. I suspect he's spent most of his life watching English football (the likes of Dellor seem to completely fail to appreciate the amount of English football that is broadcast and watched in the land of Johnny Foreigner!) and will be keen to get stuck in for real.

[Snowflake Royal]

I'd play Esteves immediately as long as he's had at least two or three days to train with us. RB's one of the simpler positions to play IMO.

Holmes did well, but didn't look a RB and there were some warning signs. Stick an arm round him, tell him he did good and definitely has a future here as a CB and I'd have no qualms about bringing him in to play if we're short at RB, but Esteves is a specialist.

Not necessarily disagreeing but some clearly thought he did really well and looked a RB, hence his (surprise) inclusion in the Championship Team of The Week.

Don't know who picks that, but it's got a whiff of "Oh, I see that young lad who plays for a team with a 100% record got a match winning assist and kept a clean sheet" rather than actually having watched the game

[Old Man Andrews]

Yeah he's no Tennai Watson is he Ian?

[Snowball]

Early on (when Watford were dominating) they were dragging Holmes inside
with a midfielder charging through and not being picked up. Then, when Holmes
had been dragged inside (and correctly gone to mark the most dangerous man)
they would then ping the ball wide.

He did nothing wrong IMO.

Not sure if VP saw what was happening and ordered changes or whether they stopped
doing it, but the two-men-to-mark thing disappeared after 15-20 minutes


Having said all that, if Esteves is ready he should come straight in. Not only is he
specialist FB but he's also very highly-rated.

[Lower West]

Having said all that, if Esteves is ready he should come straight in. Not only is he
specialist FB but he's also very highly-rated.

May well be lacking match fitness. Also needs to settle in.

[royalp-we]

I’d agree with Ian and bring him straight in to the team.

He’s not a traditional RB - he’s a RWB which is something Tom Holmes most certainly isn’t. Esteves reportedly has bags of energy (admittedly you’d expect that from an 18yo) so will hopefully allow Meite (or whoever) to get forward more. This is such a low risk and decent piece of business.

You get the feeling that Paunovic wants to get teams on their heels, with us playing More football in the oppo half instead of the tedious conservative possession game we’ve seen under previous managers. I love how angry he gets when one our attacks breaks down too, he’s got a real passion for the beautiful game.

Just a shame that if Esteves is a success, he may be off to the delayed U19 Euro 2020 in March.

[Snowball]

Having said all that, if Esteves is ready he should come straight in. Not only is he
specialist FB but he's also very highly-rated.

May well be lacking match fitness. Also needs to settle in.

Well he's playing for his country this week

[Sutekh]

Having said all that, if Esteves is ready he should come straight in. Not only is he
specialist FB but he's also very highly-rated.

May well be lacking match fitness. Also needs to settle in.

Well he's playing for his country this week

And so not likely to meet his new team mates until next Wed/Thu.

[URZZZZ]

I'd play Esteves immediately as long as he's had at least two or three days to train with us. RB's one of the simpler positions to play IMO.

Holmes did well, but didn't look a RB and there were some warning signs. Stick an arm round him, tell him he did good and definitely has a future here as a CB and I'd have no qualms about bringing him in to play if we're short at RB, but Esteves is a specialist.

Traditional full back may have been "simple" but the role is much more complex these days. There us a much greater expectation that the player can attack and defend almost equally well, timing and decision making massively important, get it wrong and the whole defensive shape is Fubared.

Think most roles have got more complex as things have got more fluid and pass focused.

Still think it's the simplest of all of them, and requires the least integration.

Think playing next to Morrison will be a huge benefit too, who seems to be a good communicator

Would be slightly more concerned if it was Moore and McIntyre for example, who are still two good centre backs but perhaps not so strong on the leadership front

[tidus_mi2]

Traditional full back may have been "simple" but the role is much more complex these days. There us a much greater expectation that the player can attack and defend almost equally well, timing and decision making massively important, get it wrong and the whole defensive shape is Fubared.

Think most roles have got more complex as things have got more fluid and pass focused.

Still think it's the simplest of all of them, and requires the least integration.

Think playing next to Morrison will be a huge benefit too, who seems to be a good communicator

Would be slightly more concerned if it was Moore and McIntyre for example, who are still two good centre backs but perhaps not so strong on the leadership front

Not sure about lack of leadership for Moore, surely he wouldn't be captain if he didn't have leadership qualities.