by Ascotexgunner » 15 Nov 2021 21:41
by CountryRoyal » 15 Nov 2021 21:45
Ascotexgunner I'm certain he will stay fit.
by Nameless » 15 Nov 2021 21:53
by hughsies no.1 » 15 Nov 2021 22:07
morganb Why mid-January? Just guessing that:
He will know if he can handle the "football-family life" balance ok (in an interview he said he didn't want to spend time away from his children in Essex and ideally wanted a club he could commute to)
He will know if bigger clubs (like Bournemouth) are willing to offer a better deal if he impresses
He will know if he wants to keep playing or retire and start up a plumbing business
We will know if Puscas is going or if his form has improved
We will know if Joao is fit
We will know if Carroll is any good/has stayed fit
We could see if anyone better is available to us in the transfer window
We should know what the EFL will allow us to do regarding transfers
I guess we will have the option to extend if he is any good and he is happy to stay.
by Royal Ginger » 15 Nov 2021 22:18
by Snowflake Royal » 16 Nov 2021 00:17
StrandedRoyalBlueStranded Interesting* and will be happy if it is confirmed today/tomorrow - would imagine he may even be stuck on the bench against Forest on Saturday.
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More likely 3-4 weeks of decent training first. Can't see them wanting to risk breaking him the first time he steps on the pitch. Mind you, given how many of our players seem to be made from fine bone china he might, by comparison, look like he's made of Titanium!
Given the length of the initial deal, will be very surprised if he is not at least on the bench come Saturday.
by From Despair To Where? » 16 Nov 2021 07:26
by Stranded » 16 Nov 2021 08:28
From Despair To Where? I think its a well structured signing. It will cost us about £70,000, we get a player who could potentially tear up this league, he gets a shop window ahead of the transfer window.
by Stranded » 16 Nov 2021 08:33
Snowflake RoyalStrandedRoyalBlue
More likely 3-4 weeks of decent training first. Can't see them wanting to risk breaking him the first time he steps on the pitch. Mind you, given how many of our players seem to be made from fine bone china he might, by comparison, look like he's made of Titanium!
Given the length of the initial deal, will be very surprised if he is not at least on the bench come Saturday.
Signed Andy Carroll on Monday,
He was starting training by Tuesday
Got him injured by Wednesday
He took up a treatment table on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
We put him out of his misery on Sunday.
by Hound » 16 Nov 2021 08:55
StrandedFrom Despair To Where? I think its a well structured signing. It will cost us about £70,000, we get a player who could potentially tear up this league, he gets a shop window ahead of the transfer window.
I'm just looking at it as an old school loan deal (I know it is a bit different clearly but has a similar feel) - where he gets to work himself back to fitness and show he can still cut it - wouldn't even surprise me if he has taken less money than the max we can pay just to get playing.
10 to 12 games, maybe score 3 or 4 goals but generally play well and he may get a few offers from higher up the food chain as we get Joao back fit or if it all works here, we may be able to extend to at least the end of the year. There are options for all parties so a good deal.
by Stranded » 16 Nov 2021 09:03
HoundStrandedFrom Despair To Where? I think its a well structured signing. It will cost us about £70,000, we get a player who could potentially tear up this league, he gets a shop window ahead of the transfer window.
I'm just looking at it as an old school loan deal (I know it is a bit different clearly but has a similar feel) - where he gets to work himself back to fitness and show he can still cut it - wouldn't even surprise me if he has taken less money than the max we can pay just to get playing.
10 to 12 games, maybe score 3 or 4 goals but generally play well and he may get a few offers from higher up the food chain as we get Joao back fit or if it all works here, we may be able to extend to at least the end of the year. There are options for all parties so a good deal.
I'm a little disappointed it wasn't for an extra month or so (though may be grateful for it only being to Jan if he is rubbish)
Don't think Joao will be fully firing by mid Jan. I do hope that we can tie him down for longer if it is working out rather than him solely using us to get in the shop window as it were
by Hound » 16 Nov 2021 09:36
StrandedHoundStranded
I'm just looking at it as an old school loan deal (I know it is a bit different clearly but has a similar feel) - where he gets to work himself back to fitness and show he can still cut it - wouldn't even surprise me if he has taken less money than the max we can pay just to get playing.
10 to 12 games, maybe score 3 or 4 goals but generally play well and he may get a few offers from higher up the food chain as we get Joao back fit or if it all works here, we may be able to extend to at least the end of the year. There are options for all parties so a good deal.
I'm a little disappointed it wasn't for an extra month or so (though may be grateful for it only being to Jan if he is rubbish)
Don't think Joao will be fully firing by mid Jan. I do hope that we can tie him down for longer if it is working out rather than him solely using us to get in the shop window as it were
I would imagine mid Jan has been fixed as it a) gives us a good couple of months to see if he is fit enough and fits into the club so we can offer a deal to the end of the season if so and b) if it doesn't work out Carroll returns to being a free agent within a transfer window. If he left the club on say 2nd Feb he would be unable to sign for another club until the summer as he was registered to us after the window closed. Not a big deal if he were say 27/28 but when you turn 33 in January, you don't want to waste any more time esp having been without a club for the first 3 months of the season.
Only option for him then would be going to play non-league esp. as he has already written off playing abroad as his family are settled and he doesn't want to be apart from them.
by blythspartan » 16 Nov 2021 10:11
by Hound » 16 Nov 2021 10:13
by South Coast Royal » 16 Nov 2021 10:45
Snowflake Royal oxf*rd me we're a desperate shambles aren't we.
Medical team on some sort of pay per treatment deal?
Pointless. He's not mobile. He's always unfit and he hasn't scored goals regularly in years.
We don't play long ball, he can't run the channels and when we do rarely bother crossing its usually over hit and rubbish. He's not going to be passing it through the eye of a needle or beating players often even if he does make it on the pitch occasionally.
Clarke just score 2 goals. Why not save a wedge, a bed and give Ehibhatiomhan a game or three first.
by Hound » 16 Nov 2021 11:44
South Coast RoyalSnowflake Royal oxf*rd me we're a desperate shambles aren't we.
Medical team on some sort of pay per treatment deal?
Pointless. He's not mobile. He's always unfit and he hasn't scored goals regularly in years.
We don't play long ball, he can't run the channels and when we do rarely bother crossing its usually over hit and rubbish. He's not going to be passing it through the eye of a needle or beating players often even if he does make it on the pitch occasionally.
Clarke just score 2 goals. Why not save a wedge, a bed and give Ehibhatiomhan a game or three first.
Similar comments were made when we signed Jimmy Quinn and Jason Roberts and of course an even older Les Ferdinand.
The 2 major successes outweigh the one failure IMHO.
We are desperate and this surely is better than nothing?
by Millsy » 16 Nov 2021 11:51
by linkenholtroyal » 16 Nov 2021 12:02
by URZZZZ » 16 Nov 2021 12:21
South Coast RoyalSnowflake Royal oxf*rd me we're a desperate shambles aren't we.
Medical team on some sort of pay per treatment deal?
Pointless. He's not mobile. He's always unfit and he hasn't scored goals regularly in years.
We don't play long ball, he can't run the channels and when we do rarely bother crossing its usually over hit and rubbish. He's not going to be passing it through the eye of a needle or beating players often even if he does make it on the pitch occasionally.
Clarke just score 2 goals. Why not save a wedge, a bed and give Ehibhatiomhan a game or three first.
Similar comments were made when we signed Jimmy Quinn and Jason Roberts and of course an even older Les Ferdinand.
The 2 major successes outweigh the one failure IMHO.
We are desperate and this surely is better than nothing?
by paultheroyal » 16 Nov 2021 12:23
Snowflake RoyalStrandedRoyalBlue
More likely 3-4 weeks of decent training first. Can't see them wanting to risk breaking him the first time he steps on the pitch. Mind you, given how many of our players seem to be made from fine bone china he might, by comparison, look like he's made of Titanium!
Given the length of the initial deal, will be very surprised if he is not at least on the bench come Saturday.
Signed Andy Carroll on Monday,
He was starting training by Tuesday
Got him injured by Wednesday
He took up a treatment table on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
We put him out of his misery on Sunday.
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