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Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 15:25
by Ian Royal
Oh great, swap lightweight and uncreative for heavyweight and uncreative. Either way we see none of the ball and make bugger all chances.

At the moment we have a part time player in Kebe and a leightweight Convey on the wings. Harper is a player who excels when those around him are playing well. Get a left back and shift Hunt up the pitch and put Karacan in the middle and we could get away with carrying Kebe on the right, or even "making do" with Henry, Doyle, NHunt or Convey there.

TBH IMO just bringing in Karacan for Cisse will make the world of difference. Cisse hasn't made an appearance in midfield yet. Despite being on the team sheet there probably about a dozen times.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 15:42
by cmonurz
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion Ian, but to me it defies belief that anyone can't see that Bikey is becoming an exceptional player, and is already a massive asset to Reading. When all are fit and present, I see Hahnemann, Doyle and Bikey as the 'definites' for the teamsheet.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 15:49
by brendywendy
id put bikey in 1st ahead of anyone-even marek


and id play him at the back, in the middle and up front if i could

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 15:53
by Bill Oddie's Beard
brendywendy wrote:id put bikey in 1st ahead of anyone-even marek


and id play him at the back, in the middle and up front if i could
'GREED :lol:

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 16:04
by brendywendy
Bill Oddie's Beard wrote:
brendywendy wrote:id put bikey in 1st ahead of anyone-even marek


and id play him at the back, in the middle and up front if i could
'GREED :lol:
would be the answer to all our problems IMO

he plays at FB for his country alot,
would provide the strength, tackling ability, etc we need in the middle
and would be the big striker we need too

if he played RW he would be awesome there too i expect.

can we clone him?

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 16:14
by Bill Oddie's Beard
brendywendy wrote:
Bill Oddie's Beard wrote:
brendywendy wrote:id put bikey in 1st ahead of anyone-even marek


and id play him at the back, in the middle and up front if i could
'GREED :lol:
would be the answer to all our problems IMO

he plays at FB for his country alot,
would provide the strength, tackling ability, etc we need in the middle
and would be the big striker we need too

if he played RW he would be awesome there too i expect.

can we clone him?
Perhaps that's why we haven't spent any money this summer. Coppell is waiting on the results of an Andre Bikey cloning experiment which the club has been backing financially for the last year or so. It all makes sense, the answer lies within the squad and all that. It's genius.
We all dream of a team of Andre Bikeys...

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 16:52
by Ian Royal
I'd leave right wing duty to Sonko myself. that was a tasty little run against Forest.

Certainly as good if not better than Kebe's in th esecond half. Which means a player who spent virtually his whole game at the centre of defence was as much an attacking threat on the wing as the person who "played" there all game.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 21:42
by PEARCEY
cmonurz wrote:Of course, you are entitled to your opinion Ian, but to me it defies belief that anyone can't see that Bikey is becoming an exceptional player, and is already a massive asset to Reading. When all are fit and present, I see Hahnemann, Doyle and Bikey as the 'definites' for the teamsheet.
Yep I agree with you re these three....I'm also far from convinced that Karacan is ready for the Championship.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 16 Aug 2008 20:28
by rg6royal
When Bikey comes back into the team it will be in the centre of midfield.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 17 Aug 2008 17:50
by Ian Royal
PEARCEY wrote:
cmonurz wrote:Of course, you are entitled to your opinion Ian, but to me it defies belief that anyone can't see that Bikey is becoming an exceptional player, and is already a massive asset to Reading. When all are fit and present, I see Hahnemann, Doyle and Bikey as the 'definites' for the teamsheet.
Yep I agree with you re these three....I'm also far from convinced that Karacan is ready for the Championship.
I really like Bikey, I even think he has potential in midfield. But not paired with Karacan. Too inexperienced and in theory not very creative.

I'm happy to see him in there alongside Harper or Matejovsky if Karacan isn't looking up to it(still don't rate Cisse as a midfielder even if he improved in the last game). At the moment though I'd prefer Bikey in central defence with Sonko.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 17 Aug 2008 19:06
by kwik-silva
Bill Oddie's Beard wrote:Perhaps that's why we haven't spent any money this summer. Coppell is waiting on the results of an Andre Bikey cloning experiment which the club has been backing financially for the last year or so. It all makes sense, the answer lies within the squad and all that. It's genius.
We all dream of a team of Andre Bikeys...
sounds like a song :lol: I would definatly have Bike in the midfield or at full back, I think he's almost wasted playing CB, especially seeing as we have more than adequate cover, could he be the answer to the LB question??

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 17 Aug 2008 19:12
by PEARCEY
kwik-silva wrote:[
Dont see him as a left back....he would be wasted there...central midfield alongside Harper and I would keep him there when Matejovsky gets back. I would then play Matejovsky ahead of Convey in a wider left position although not as a winger obviously.
Either that or have Bikey alongside Sonko in central defence.
The trouble is I can see Coppell keeping him on the bench again for long stretches which is a complete waste of a very good player.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 09:33
by Bill Oddie's Beard
rg6royal wrote:When Bikey comes back into the team it will be in the centre of midfield.
Has to be at centre-back for me.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 09:43
by rg6royal
Bill Oddie's Beard wrote:
rg6royal wrote:When Bikey comes back into the team it will be in the centre of midfield.
Has to be at centre-back for me.
I doubt he will get back in there tbh, with Sonko looking very good and Ingi his usual reliable self. We need to strengthen in the midfield, someone who can tackle and Bikey would be perfect for that. Even though Cisse likes to get stuck in he does give away too many fouls.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 09:48
by LoyalRoyalFan
Bikey is better placed in the centre of midfield.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 14:30
by Scarface
LoyalRoyalFan wrote:Bikey is better placed in the centre of midfield.
His best position is CB, play him there and sign a bloody midfielder who can tackle.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 14:38
by brendywendy
Scarface wrote:
LoyalRoyalFan wrote:Bikey is better placed in the centre of midfield.
His best position is CB, play him there and sign a bloody midfielder who can tackle.
i love bikey whereever he plays

but i feel i must agree with this

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 14:48
by West Stand Man
I am amazed that anyone thinks that a pairing of Ingimarsson/Sonko is better than Sonko/Bikey! Those 2 would be a potentially awesome barrier to any CCC strike force.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 14:53
by Arch
West Stand Man wrote:I am amazed that anyone thinks that a pairing of Ingimarsson/Sonko is better than Sonko/Bikey! Those 2 would be a potentially awesome barrier to any CCC strike force.
It's not just a matter of being giant, powerful and good in the air. A good CD partnership needs an almost psychic understanding, complementary positioning, and continual discipline. Ivar may have physical weaknesses but he brings other intangibles that I'm far from convinced you'd get with Sonko/Bikey.

Re: RUMOUR - Bikey to Hull/Sunderland

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 14:55
by Dirk Gently
West Stand Man wrote:I am amazed that anyone thinks that a pairing of Ingimarsson/Sonko is better than Sonko/Bikey! Those 2 would be a potentially awesome barrier to any CCC strike force.
But a much less well-marshaled and well-organised defence. Ingimarsson's value isn't just in how he plays himself - it's also the effect he has on the others, and I don't think either Sonko or Bikey is yet experienced or mature/focused enough to play that roll well enough.