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Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 04 Dec 2014 15:25
by Pepe the Horseman
Basically even if it gets overturned, people won't be able to see past it. If it had been consensual, it would have been a non-story. If word got round that Jordan Obita had gone out and had sex with the same girl as one of his friends, in the same night, would we think he wasn't the right fit for our club? Or has Evans got history of being a bit of a bad egg?

Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 04 Dec 2014 21:00
by FridaysGhost
This was always a dodgy conviction and, historically, came after a complete swathe of similar prosecutions (or potential prosecutions) caused by TOWIE girls thinking that a night with a footballer would give them fame, money and a career - all of the footballers in these cases were found to be innocent! Indeed, in some cases, the girls had admitted their lies before the case came to Court.

A girl who attaches herself to a group of footballers, gets rat-arsed with them and then retires to a hotel room with them cannot, under any circumstances, expect anything other than sex. Moreover, having convinced the Court that she was too comatose to agree with anything, it seems strange that her memory of some of the proceedings appears to be intact!

Many University students, after a serious party, may wake up to the realisation that they have made a serious mistake the night before. Do rape proceedings follow? NO! They take responsibility for their own actions AND the guy they woke up with was not a footballer.

The Politically-correct rubbish against this guy is just bizarre. He has done time for something that most of us would consider to be a norm of growing up in a permissive society AND, unlike a murderer, he is a footballer so he MUST be stopped from earning a living.

Every person who, without knowing whether this conviction was sound (which it is'nt) , chose to crucify this guy - should be showered with the sane abuse that Chad Evans has had to put up with!

Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 04 Dec 2014 22:43
by semtex1871
FridaysGhost wrote:This was always a dodgy conviction and, historically, came after a complete swathe of similar prosecutions (or potential prosecutions) caused by TOWIE girls thinking that a night with a footballer would give them fame, money and a career - all of the footballers in these cases were found to be innocent! Indeed, in some cases, the girls had admitted their lies before the case came to Court.

A girl who attaches herself to a group of footballers, gets rat-arsed with them and then retires to a hotel room with them cannot, under any circumstances, expect anything other than sex. Moreover, having convinced the Court that she was too comatose to agree with anything, it seems strange that her memory of some of the proceedings appears to be intact!

Many University students, after a serious party, may wake up to the realisation that they have made a serious mistake the night before. Do rape proceedings follow? NO! They take responsibility for their own actions AND the guy they woke up with was not a footballer.

The Politically-correct rubbish against this guy is just bizarre. He has done time for something that most of us would consider to be a norm of growing up in a permissive society AND, unlike a murderer, he is a footballer so he MUST be stopped from earning a living.

Every person who, without knowing whether this conviction was sound (which it is'nt) , chose to crucify this guy - should be showered with the sane abuse that Chad Evans has had to put up with!
+1 to this dose of common sense.....

Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 05 Dec 2014 09:00
by Norfolk Royal
FridaysGhost wrote:This was always a dodgy conviction and, historically, came after a complete swathe of similar prosecutions (or potential prosecutions) caused by TOWIE girls thinking that a night with a footballer would give them fame, money and a career - all of the footballers in these cases were found to be innocent! Indeed, in some cases, the girls had admitted their lies before the case came to Court.

A girl who attaches herself to a group of footballers, gets rat-arsed with them and then retires to a hotel room with them cannot, under any circumstances, expect anything other than sex. Moreover, having convinced the Court that she was too comatose to agree with anything, it seems strange that her memory of some of the proceedings appears to be intact!

Many University students, after a serious party, may wake up to the realisation that they have made a serious mistake the night before. Do rape proceedings follow? NO! They take responsibility for their own actions AND the guy they woke up with was not a footballer.

The Politically-correct rubbish against this guy is just bizarre. He has done time for something that most of us would consider to be a norm of growing up in a permissive society AND, unlike a murderer, he is a footballer so he MUST be stopped from earning a living.

Every person who, without knowing whether this conviction was sound (which it is'nt) , chose to crucify this guy - should be showered with the sane abuse that Chad Evans has had to put up with!
There's so much factually wrong or misconceived in that post I barely know where to start. In fact I can't be bothered.

Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 05 Dec 2014 10:03
by Martin41
Norfolk Royal wrote:
FridaysGhost wrote:This was always a dodgy conviction and, historically, came after a complete swathe of similar prosecutions (or potential prosecutions) caused by TOWIE girls thinking that a night with a footballer would give them fame, money and a career - all of the footballers in these cases were found to be innocent! Indeed, in some cases, the girls had admitted their lies before the case came to Court.

A girl who attaches herself to a group of footballers, gets rat-arsed with them and then retires to a hotel room with them cannot, under any circumstances, expect anything other than sex. Moreover, having convinced the Court that she was too comatose to agree with anything, it seems strange that her memory of some of the proceedings appears to be intact!

Many University students, after a serious party, may wake up to the realisation that they have made a serious mistake the night before. Do rape proceedings follow? NO! They take responsibility for their own actions AND the guy they woke up with was not a footballer.

The Politically-correct rubbish against this guy is just bizarre. He has done time for something that most of us would consider to be a norm of growing up in a permissive society AND, unlike a murderer, he is a footballer so he MUST be stopped from earning a living.

Every person who, without knowing whether this conviction was sound (which it is'nt) , chose to crucify this guy - should be showered with the sane abuse that Chad Evans has had to put up with!
There's so much factually wrong or misconceived in that post I barely know where to start. In fact I can't be bothered.

+1 , the thing that stood out for me was the comment about that if you go back to a hotel room then under any circumstances they cannot expect anything other than sex!!!!!! Christ alive.......

Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 05 Dec 2014 10:52
by Norfolk Royal
Martin41 wrote:
Norfolk Royal wrote:
FridaysGhost wrote:This was always a dodgy conviction and, historically, came after a complete swathe of similar prosecutions (or potential prosecutions) caused by TOWIE girls thinking that a night with a footballer would give them fame, money and a career - all of the footballers in these cases were found to be innocent! Indeed, in some cases, the girls had admitted their lies before the case came to Court.

A girl who attaches herself to a group of footballers, gets rat-arsed with them and then retires to a hotel room with them cannot, under any circumstances, expect anything other than sex. Moreover, having convinced the Court that she was too comatose to agree with anything, it seems strange that her memory of some of the proceedings appears to be intact!

Many University students, after a serious party, may wake up to the realisation that they have made a serious mistake the night before. Do rape proceedings follow? NO! They take responsibility for their own actions AND the guy they woke up with was not a footballer.

The Politically-correct rubbish against this guy is just bizarre. He has done time for something that most of us would consider to be a norm of growing up in a permissive society AND, unlike a murderer, he is a footballer so he MUST be stopped from earning a living.

Every person who, without knowing whether this conviction was sound (which it is'nt) , chose to crucify this guy - should be showered with the sane abuse that Chad Evans has had to put up with!
There's so much factually wrong or misconceived in that post I barely know where to start. In fact I can't be bothered.

+1 , the thing that stood out for me was the comment about that if you go back to a hotel room then under any circumstances they cannot expect anything other than sex!!!!!! Christ alive.......
The one that got me was the girl who attached herself to a group of footballers and got rat-arsed with them when, in fact, the exact opposite happened in the Ched Evans case.

Re: Speculation: Ched Evans, you decide

Posted: 06 Dec 2014 11:35
by Nameless
The bit about Evans being stopped from earning a living is odd too. I don't think anyone has ever even suggested that. There are thousands of jobs out there.