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Posted: 18 Dec 2007 21:07
by Coppelled Streets
Platypuss wrote:They are pretty convinced on cpfc.org that Watson is a done deal.
Good news is true. Very good player and will improve greatly.

Takes our ginger quoter (sp?) back to two too! :wink:

Posted: 18 Dec 2007 22:29
by Row Z Royal
Quota

Posted: 18 Dec 2007 22:40
by Arch
Dave Kitson is our Ginger Quoter. He knows his Shakespeare.

Posted: 18 Dec 2007 23:12
by TFF
icsouthlondon

Warnock's sale admission

Dec 18 2007

CRYSTAL Palace manager Neil Warnock has refused to rule out some of his star men leaving in next month's transfer window, writes Richard Cawley.

And midfielder Ben Watson, pictured right, could be one set to go - with Reading and Norwich both linked with the ex-England U21 international.

"I'm talking to Ben and we've got to decide what's best for both parties," said Warnock.

"He's doing well at the moment and there's been no interest. But I wouldn't write off anybody going. Somebody could make an offer which is too good to turn down."

Warnock admits Palace's nine-game unbeaten run has changed his transfer plans.

He added: "Six weeks ago I thought I needed five or six but now I'm looking at one or two -maybe three if somebody goes."

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Colin seems ready to let him walk - I hope he's fibbing about no interest.

Quality player - could he get straight in the team and thrive at this level though?

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 05:06
by royaldownunder
Matt de K wrote:Some interesting & comical views from the CP side of things here - including a swap deal for Lita :lol:

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?threadid=161862

Haha these guys are comedians:

I love this one:

"if Reading were prepared to give us £1m plus Long or Lita in part exchange"

and:

"The Royals lost their 'Ben' in Sidwell who went for a whopping £7M to the Blue Sh**".

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 09:43
by papereyes
Behindu wrote:I think he's fallen for the annual media story which claims that the playoff final is the biggest game in the world becasue it is worth £60 million to the winner.

I couldn;t quote the accurate breakdwon but I'm fairly sure that figure -

- is a wild guesstimate
- includes all the possible revenue a club might get over the course of a season in the Prem - it may even include allowances for increased tickets sales / merchandise etc etc
- includes parachte payments if they get relegated
- isn;t paid up front so hasn't been pocketed by anyone
- is payable to the club, not an individual

It's a snappy bit of copy to make the payoff final seem a bit more glamourous but I'm not sure we actually received a cheque for that amount the day we got our Golden Share - or indeed that there is any guarantee we will ever get that amount.
The way I see it is it is approximately 60 million for the TV money guaranteed for one season and the two seasons of parachute payments. I actually found the sums for it once and its almost 60 million.

Of course they rounded up.

Oh, Ben Watson. I always replace Sidwell with him in Football Manager. Does that mean he's quite good?

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 12:31
by Row Z Royal
That Friday Feeling wrote: And midfielder Ben Watson, pictured right, could be one set to go - with Reading and Norwich both linked with the ex-England U21 international.
Are we aiming too low or are Norwich in cloud cuckoo land? While it's great that we're not shown to be competing with other Prem clubs (as that is a battle we seem to lose) surely we shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Norwich anymore.

Or have I just contracted "big club" syndrome? :wink:

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 14:03
by Old Biscuitman
Behindu wrote:Would signing Stelios just be the Easy option ?
:)

Jets about

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 16:26
by Fezza
Row Z Royal wrote:
That Friday Feeling wrote: And midfielder Ben Watson, pictured right, could be one set to go - with Reading and Norwich both linked with the ex-England U21 international.
Are we aiming too low or are Norwich in cloud cuckoo land? While it's great that we're not shown to be competing with other Prem clubs (as that is a battle we seem to lose) surely we shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Norwich anymore.

Or have I just contracted "big club" syndrome? :wink:
Whilst they seem like Championship relegation candidates they do have an equal amount of spending power to us. Also since Glen "at least he's got half a brain" Roader to charge they have looked a much better outfit. Aren't they also trying to get in Shola Ameobi as well? (would have thought he would add a lot to our team if Lita were to go!).

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 17:17
by Tinrib
Fezza wrote:
Row Z Royal wrote:
That Friday Feeling wrote: And midfielder Ben Watson, pictured right, could be one set to go - with Reading and Norwich both linked with the ex-England U21 international.
Are we aiming too low or are Norwich in cloud cuckoo land? While it's great that we're not shown to be competing with other Prem clubs (as that is a battle we seem to lose) surely we shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Norwich anymore.

Or have I just contracted "big club" syndrome? :wink:
Whilst they seem like Championship relegation candidates they do have an equal amount of spending power to us. Also since Glen "at least he's got half a brain" Roader to charge they have looked a much better outfit. Aren't they also trying to get in Shola Ameobi as well? (would have thought he would add a lot to our team if Lita were to go!).
Norwich have nothing like the 'spending power ' of Reading...

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats2/eng_norwich.htm


2006/07 results for the club released in September 2007 showed that Norwich City Football Club finances were heading into a "challenging" period after profits fell from £2.4m to £100,000 despite £8.4m from the Football League and Premier League 'parachute' payments given to relegated clubs. However, the latter ends this season, leaving Norwich facing a reduction of £7m in their income for 2007/08. "We are now in an extremely challenging position," said Norwich City's chief executive Neil Doncaster. "The environment for clubs, like ourselves, who are trying to compete with in the Championship without these parachute payments is very difficult indeed." NCFC turnover was posted at £23.8m, while gate receipts increased by £100,000 to £7.7m due to increased season ticket revenue. Profit on player trading fell from £6.2m to £2,5m, but wage bill for the squad was cut by £1.6m.

The 2005/06 accounts eleased at NCFC's AGM in November 2006 showed the immense cost of relegation from the Premiership at the end of 2005/6. Turnover fell from £37.4m to £24.7m (largely due to £12.1m drop in income from Premier League and Sky), gate receipts fell by £200,000 (fewer away fans in the Championship than the top flight) and commercial sales (mainly in the club shop) dropped by £1.3m. Overall debt was reduced from £0.5m to £19.2m, which is largely comprised of a £15m "securitisation" loan taken out in 2004 to bring the club's debts together. Chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "In the year covered by these accounts, and despite a £7m parachute payment, the club's cash position worsened by £1.5m." He said the club's financial position was "stable", despite the large debt, which he said was "structured and manageable".

A 2002 share offer changed the status of the club from Norwich City Football Club Limited to Norwich City Football Club plc.

Turnover and pre-tax profit figures are in millions.

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 19:20
by Fezza
Tinrib wrote:
Fezza wrote:
Row Z Royal wrote: Are we aiming too low or are Norwich in cloud cuckoo land? While it's great that we're not shown to be competing with other Prem clubs (as that is a battle we seem to lose) surely we shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Norwich anymore.

Or have I just contracted "big club" syndrome? :wink:
Whilst they seem like Championship relegation candidates they do have an equal amount of spending power to us. Also since Glen "at least he's got half a brain" Roader to charge they have looked a much better outfit. Aren't they also trying to get in Shola Ameobi as well? (would have thought he would add a lot to our team if Lita were to go!).
Norwich have nothing like the 'spending power ' of Reading...

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats2/eng_norwich.htm


2006/07 results for the club released in September 2007 showed that Norwich City Football Club finances were heading into a "challenging" period after profits fell from £2.4m to £100,000 despite £8.4m from the Football League and Premier League 'parachute' payments given to relegated clubs. However, the latter ends this season, leaving Norwich facing a reduction of £7m in their income for 2007/08. "We are now in an extremely challenging position," said Norwich City's chief executive Neil Doncaster. "The environment for clubs, like ourselves, who are trying to compete with in the Championship without these parachute payments is very difficult indeed." NCFC turnover was posted at £23.8m, while gate receipts increased by £100,000 to £7.7m due to increased season ticket revenue. Profit on player trading fell from £6.2m to £2,5m, but wage bill for the squad was cut by £1.6m.

The 2005/06 accounts eleased at NCFC's AGM in November 2006 showed the immense cost of relegation from the Premiership at the end of 2005/6. Turnover fell from £37.4m to £24.7m (largely due to £12.1m drop in income from Premier League and Sky), gate receipts fell by £200,000 (fewer away fans in the Championship than the top flight) and commercial sales (mainly in the club shop) dropped by £1.3m. Overall debt was reduced from £0.5m to £19.2m, which is largely comprised of a £15m "securitisation" loan taken out in 2004 to bring the club's debts together. Chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "In the year covered by these accounts, and despite a £7m parachute payment, the club's cash position worsened by £1.5m." He said the club's financial position was "stable", despite the large debt, which he said was "structured and manageable".

A 2002 share offer changed the status of the club from Norwich City Football Club Limited to Norwich City Football Club plc.

Turnover and pre-tax profit figures are in millions.
I will continue my day of getting nothing right about anything (except for the job I got today!)

Posted: 19 Dec 2007 21:12
by Tinrib
Fezza wrote:
Tinrib wrote:
Fezza wrote: Whilst they seem like Championship relegation candidates they do have an equal amount of spending power to us. Also since Glen "at least he's got half a brain" Roader to charge they have looked a much better outfit. Aren't they also trying to get in Shola Ameobi as well? (would have thought he would add a lot to our team if Lita were to go!).
Norwich have nothing like the 'spending power ' of Reading...

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats2/eng_norwich.htm


2006/07 results for the club released in September 2007 showed that Norwich City Football Club finances were heading into a "challenging" period after profits fell from £2.4m to £100,000 despite £8.4m from the Football League and Premier League 'parachute' payments given to relegated clubs. However, the latter ends this season, leaving Norwich facing a reduction of £7m in their income for 2007/08. "We are now in an extremely challenging position," said Norwich City's chief executive Neil Doncaster. "The environment for clubs, like ourselves, who are trying to compete with in the Championship without these parachute payments is very difficult indeed." NCFC turnover was posted at £23.8m, while gate receipts increased by £100,000 to £7.7m due to increased season ticket revenue. Profit on player trading fell from £6.2m to £2,5m, but wage bill for the squad was cut by £1.6m.

The 2005/06 accounts eleased at NCFC's AGM in November 2006 showed the immense cost of relegation from the Premiership at the end of 2005/6. Turnover fell from £37.4m to £24.7m (largely due to £12.1m drop in income from Premier League and Sky), gate receipts fell by £200,000 (fewer away fans in the Championship than the top flight) and commercial sales (mainly in the club shop) dropped by £1.3m. Overall debt was reduced from £0.5m to £19.2m, which is largely comprised of a £15m "securitisation" loan taken out in 2004 to bring the club's debts together. Chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "In the year covered by these accounts, and despite a £7m parachute payment, the club's cash position worsened by £1.5m." He said the club's financial position was "stable", despite the large debt, which he said was "structured and manageable".

A 2002 share offer changed the status of the club from Norwich City Football Club Limited to Norwich City Football Club plc.

Turnover and pre-tax profit figures are in millions.
I will continue my day of getting nothing right about anything (except for the job I got today!)
Congratulations for getting the job!!

Posted: 21 Dec 2007 09:19
by tom_t69
I think watson sounds like he would be a god signing if he is as goo as all those palace fans are saying.

Posted: 21 Dec 2007 09:20
by T.R.O.L.I.
tom_t69 wrote:I think watson sounds like he would be a god signing if he is as goo as all those palace fans are saying.
I hope this doesn't end up as a sticky situation...

Posted: 21 Dec 2007 17:11
by From Despair To Where?
T.R.O.L.I. wrote:
tom_t69 wrote:I think watson sounds like he would be a god signing if he is as goo as all those palace fans are saying.
I hope this doesn't end up as a sticky situation...
Our midfield has certainly needed divine intervention at times this season.

Posted: 21 Dec 2007 18:19
by Kevin Doyles Right Foot
From Despair To Where? wrote:
T.R.O.L.I. wrote:
tom_t69 wrote:I think watson sounds like he would be a god signing if he is as goo as all those palace fans are saying.
I hope this doesn't end up as a sticky situation...
Our midfield has certainly needed divine intervention at times this season.
is god goo like jesus juice? :?

Posted: 22 Dec 2007 14:21
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe
Would certainly have preffered a player of Gary O'Neil's quality.

Watson, like Gera for me is one of those players who's been available since Palace went down. Why has no one signed him? Been plenty of clubs looking for centre mids, we were looking in the summer, if we didn't buy him then, why would we buy him now??

Posted: 22 Dec 2007 18:04
by Coppelled Streets
Kevin Doyles Right Foot wrote:
From Despair To Where? wrote:
T.R.O.L.I. wrote: I hope this doesn't end up as a sticky situation...
Our midfield has certainly needed divine intervention at times this season.
is god goo like jesus juice? :?
Willy come for long balls? :shock:

Posted: 22 Dec 2007 18:28
by 18urz71
You could say the same about Sidwell though. Why didn't he go to a Prem club while we were in the championship?

Posted: 22 Dec 2007 18:48
by Drew_3
18urz71 wrote:You could say the same about Sidwell though. Why didn't he go to a Prem club while we were in the championship?
a very good point!!!