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Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 15:29
by loyalroyal4life
sir john and pardew having dinner??

i would be surprised to hear them being in the same room let alone sharing candles!

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 20:22
by Ian Royal
Deathy wrote:
Thaumagurist* wrote:
Deathy wrote:
That frightens me. No no no way.

League 1 here we come if that happens. Same for Wally.
:roll:

On what do you base that opinion?
Um, Dillon's magnificent run of games after Pardew left. Yeah that was convincing. We need a fresh face, fresh ideas and preferably a proven track record!

NOT DILLON, NOT EVER.
OO one short lived temporary position over 5 years ago means he can't be a good manager!

Not a preferred choice of mine, but he's an option and depending on how he's developed under Coppell potentially a good one.

You really are a thickie.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 20:28
by Ian Royal
Deathy wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote: You think he'd currently be described as a 'successful' employed manager ?
I think his (successful and not so) track record says:

Division 2 runners up and promotion - Reading FC
Division 1 play-off semifinalists following season - Reading FC
Championship play-off winners - West Ham United
Premier League 7th place (?) - West Ham United
FA Cup Final - West Ham United

Vs

Failure in Division 2 play off final with Reading
Failure to win Division 2 and narrowly missing falling into Play offs despite being several points clear with 10 games to go.
Failure in Division 1 play offs

Sacked from West Ham for poor form which threatened relegation
Premier League relegation - Charlton Athletic
Failure to return Charlton to the Premiership instantly, helping transform the club into Championship relegation battlers - when the club's in the state it is!

I'd say he's one of the best qualified managers available right now!
You left a few things out on the negative side...

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 20:42
by Madstad to Nadderud
Of course it will be Pards if Coppell steps down as Sir John won't have to worry about any compensation as Pards is not managing any club at the moment. Pardew will be in place with Darren Caskey as his number two.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 22:48
by rg6royal
Madstad to Nadderud wrote:Of course it will be Pards if Coppell steps down as Sir John won't have to worry about any compensation as Pards is not managing any club at the moment. Pardew will be in place with Darren Caskey as his number two.
I actually like the sound of that :)

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 23:56
by Deathy
Ian Royal wrote:
OO one short lived temporary position over 5 years ago means he can't be a good manager!

Not a preferred choice of mine, but he's an option and depending on how he's developed under Coppell potentially a good one.

You really are a thickie.
It's a matter of opinion. Welcome to the world of internetz forums.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 10:08
by Nezhen
This is utter bullsh1te to a tee. Without, revealing too much, I live in Henley, I'm good friends with someone who knows John and his sister Netty (who also lives in Henley) very well and I know that as a man of principle (albeit with bad political judgement) John will never have Parjudas back at the club for as long as he remains chairman.

If he has been seen out in Henley, well that's pretty normal, as he regularly visits his sister and has a whole circle of friends in the Henley area. Just visit Antico's or Villa Marina on a Sunday afternoon and you might just get to meet the man himself!

Move on, stop making mischief and grow up.

This is totally untrue! :roll:

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 10:49
by Sun Tzu
rg6royal wrote:
Madstad to Nadderud wrote:Of course it will be Pards if Coppell steps down as Sir John won't have to worry about any compensation as Pards is not managing any club at the moment. Pardew will be in place with Darren Caskey as his number two.
I actually like the sound of that :)
What about Caskey makes him sound like a good number 2 ?

Is it his extensive managerial experience or his huge contact book in the lower echelons of non league football ?

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 13:54
by Huntley & Palmer
A colleague here has confirmed that her husband has a lot of meetings with Nigel Howe and the subject of Pardew replacing Coppell should he decide not to stay has already been a matter of discussion within RFC. So there you go

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 13:58
by Madstad to Nadderud
Oh I forgot, Pardew had loads of managerial experience before he became Reading manager! Also it's not as if Reading buy all their players from the Premiership :roll: Ex-players have to start somewhere if they are going to get in to football management, and I'm sure Caskey has a few good ideas. Pardew liked Caskey as a player so why not? Anyway, hopefully Sir Steve is staying for good.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:32
by Sun Tzu
Madstad to Nadderud wrote:Oh I forgot, Pardew had loads of managerial experience before he became Reading manager! Also it's not as if Reading buy all their players from the Premiership :roll: Ex-players have to start somewhere if they are going to get in to football management, and I'm sure Caskey has a few good ideas. Pardew liked Caskey as a player so why not? Anyway, hopefully Sir Steve is staying for good.
Well Pards had run our reserves and been involved in our coaching set up.

Caskey has been out of any kind of decent football for years now, I was just thinking you had a real reason for suggesting him rather than a vague idea that Pardew might have 'liked' him....

Does Caskey have his coaching badges ? Is he doing any coaching at the moment ? If so to what effect ? How many ex players move from Halesowen to the Premiership without any coaching experience in between ?

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:44
by Alan Partridge
Sun Tzu wrote:
Madstad to Nadderud wrote:Oh I forgot, Pardew had loads of managerial experience before he became Reading manager! Also it's not as if Reading buy all their players from the Premiership :roll: Ex-players have to start somewhere if they are going to get in to football management, and I'm sure Caskey has a few good ideas. Pardew liked Caskey as a player so why not? Anyway, hopefully Sir Steve is staying for good.
Well Pards had run our reserves and been involved in our coaching set up.

Caskey has been out of any kind of decent football for years now, I was just thinking you had a real reason for suggesting him rather than a vague idea that Pardew might have 'liked' him....

Does Caskey have his coaching badges ? Is he doing any coaching at the moment ? If so to what effect ? How many ex players move from Halesowen to the Premiership without any coaching experience in between ?
Well we took Aaron Brown from Tamworth to basically the Premiership (we were going up). We wasted his time and our time with that signing so I wouldn't be overly shocked.

The thought of Pards returning really isn't one that fills me with great optimism.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:49
by Sun Tzu
Alan Partridge wrote:
Well we took Aaron Brown from Tamworth to basically the Premiership (we were going up). We wasted his time and our time with that signing so I wouldn't be overly shocked.
But we took him as a (reserve) player not assistant manager !!

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:52
by Alan Partridge
Sun Tzu wrote:
Alan Partridge wrote:
Well we took Aaron Brown from Tamworth to basically the Premiership (we were going up). We wasted his time and our time with that signing so I wouldn't be overly shocked.
But we took him as a (reserve) player not assistant manager !!
All I'm saying is we took someone from non league to Premiership before, someone with no experience or standing in the game. In Caskey's favour at least he was a good player for this club, what he's got coaching wise I have no idea. It's not the worst suggestion is all I'll say. Pardew & Caskey I could see that, he'd probably want to keep Kev Dillon as well.

It wouldn't even be in my personal top 5 choice. I got my number 1 choice last time! :mrgreen: I remember writing on here we should go for either Steve Coppell or Bryan Robson :oops: Thank God we got the former!

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:58
by Sun Tzu
Alan Partridge wrote:
All I'm saying is we took someone from non league to Premiership before, someone with no experience or standing in the game. In Caskey's favour at least he was a good player for this club, what he's got coaching wise I have no idea. It's not the worst suggestion is all I'll say. Pardew & Caskey I could see that, he'd probably want to keep Kev Dillon as well. !
It's pretty low risk though to take a player with a bit of decent pedigree (he was an England non league player and rated reasonably highly in non league football) and see how he works out. There have been loads of players who have made the transition - from Ian Wright / Stuart Pearce through to Dave Kitson / DJ Campbell ...

To grab a guy on the basis that he was once a decent player and might be mates with Pards doesn't seem to base the suggestion on anything. It's not asking too much to back up the opinion - for all I know Caskey may have his UEFA badges, his Pro Licence and be the next Nigel Clough but his pedigree of a tour of the lesser lights of sub Conference clubs doesn;t throw anything obvious up.

As has been said, the Pardew idea seems pretty far fetched any way so probably even less point in debating whether a random ex pie addict might be the one to replace Kevin Dillon !!

My money is still on Eamon Dolan...

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 21 Mar 2009 13:57
by Deathy
Nezhen wrote:This is utter bullsh1te to a tee. Without, revealing too much, I live in Henley, I'm good friends with someone who knows John and his sister Netty (who also lives in Henley) very well and I know that as a man of principle (albeit with bad political judgement) John will never have Parjudas back at the club for as long as he remains chairman.

If he has been seen out in Henley, well that's pretty normal, as he regularly visits his sister and has a whole circle of friends in the Henley area. Just visit Antico's or Villa Marina on a Sunday afternoon and you might just get to meet the man himself!

Move on, stop making mischief and grow up.

This is totally untrue! :roll:
Huntley & Palmer wrote:A colleague here has confirmed that her husband has a lot of meetings with Nigel Howe and the subject of Pardew replacing Coppell should he decide not to stay has already been a matter of discussion within RFC. So there you go
Thank you. Might not back up what I was told by the father inlaw, but certainly adds substance to it.

Nezhen = angry young man that wont let go. :lol:

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 21 Mar 2009 18:27
by The 17 Bus
And what if the discussion was , there is no way we will be having Pardew back???? That's a discussion about Pardew as a future manager, but I doubt it adds to your views.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 22 Mar 2009 11:20
by moo
rape

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 22 Mar 2009 16:13
by Ian Royal
I'll go with nezhen over jay and huntley.

Re: Pardew prepares for Royals return - RUMOUR

Posted: 24 Mar 2009 11:00
by Nezhen
Thanks for the 'young' compliment, but I'm afraid that there is absolutely no foundation in the parjudas hyperbole. The only concievable way in which this situation would change, would be after the removal/resignation of Madjeski as Chairman. Until then, this is not going to happen, I promise you!