Hob Nob Anyone?

can only think of Duffy tbh - think he was 5m

There was talk of Flint going for 10m-ish but he has stayed put so far.

Royalwaster wrote:

CountryRoyal wrote:

Royalwaster wrote:
It would never be that much for a CB - £4mill with add-ons.

Bullshit. Plenty* of CBs from the Champ have gone for more, and in the current climate and with as long on his contract he has left, there is no reason to expect or sell for less.

*ok not plenty, but certainly some.

Go on ... give me a list of one or more CBs who have sold for more than that from the Champ in last few years.

Here's two.

Grant Hanley Blackburn to Newcastle. Fee about £5.5 mill
Shane Duffy Blackburn to Brighton, Fee about £4.5mill

muirinho wrote:

Royalwaster wrote:

CountryRoyal wrote:
Bullshit. Plenty* of CBs from the Champ have gone for more, and in the current climate and with as long on his contract he has left, there is no reason to expect or sell for less.

*ok not plenty, but certainly some.

Go on ... give me a list of one or more CBs who have sold for more than that from the Champ in last few years.

Here's two.

Grant Hanley Blackburn to Newcastle. Fee about £5.5 mill
Shane Duffy Blackburn to Brighton, Fee about £4.5mill

Harry Maguire? James Chester?

NewCorkSeth wrote:

muirinho wrote:

Royalwaster wrote:
Go on ... give me a list of one or more CBs who have sold for more than that from the Champ in last few years.

Here's two.

Grant Hanley Blackburn to Newcastle. Fee about £5.5 mill
Shane Duffy Blackburn to Brighton, Fee about £4.5mill

Harry Maguire? James Chester?

Matt Mills (from us to Leicester)? Or is that too old to count?

Gav wrote:

NewCorkSeth wrote:

muirinho wrote:
Here's two.

Grant Hanley Blackburn to Newcastle. Fee about £5.5 mill
Shane Duffy Blackburn to Brighton, Fee about £4.5mill

Harry Maguire? James Chester?

Matt Mills (from us to Leicester)? Or is that too old to count?

Probably too old but Michael Hector isn't.

Ciaran Clark? Alfie Mawson?

NewCorkSeth wrote:

muirinho wrote:

Royalwaster wrote:
Go on ... give me a list of one or more CBs who have sold for more than that from the Champ in last few years.

Here's two.

Grant Hanley Blackburn to Newcastle. Fee about £5.5 mill
Shane Duffy Blackburn to Brighton, Fee about £4.5mill

Harry Maguire? James Chester?

So around £5mill is the highest ... Maguire and Chester are higher but Maguire was sold by Hull (when they were relegated - so a Prem club going down) and Chester was bought by a Champ team from a Prem team.

Still I guess with price going more and more crazy, we should really not let Brighton mug us off for Moore.

Royalwaster wrote:

NewCorkSeth wrote:

muirinho wrote:
Here's two.

Grant Hanley Blackburn to Newcastle. Fee about £5.5 mill
Shane Duffy Blackburn to Brighton, Fee about £4.5mill

Harry Maguire? James Chester?

So around £5mill is the highest ... Maguire and Chester are higher but Maguire was sold by Hull (when they were relegated - so a Prem club going down) and Chester was bought by a Champ team from a Prem team.

Still I guess with price going more and more crazy, we should really not let Brighton mug us off for Moore.

West Brom bought Chester for 10 million from the champ. Maguire cost more than that?

Sutekh wrote:

TiagoIlori wrote:Brighton keen on offering a bid with Baldock who we’re keen on. I think he’s replaceable but we should absolutely rinse them as much as we can.

Baldock. 90 goals in 287 league apps. Roughly 1 goal in 3. 29 years old. Best return was the 34 in 83 games at Bristol City 5 years ago. Since then 18 in 81 at Brighton. All a bit on that side of the suggested deal really.

Stats don’t tell the whole story, he played a crucial role last season with Brighton when he was fit.

NewCorkSeth wrote:

Royalwaster wrote:

NewCorkSeth wrote: Harry Maguire? James Chester?

So around £5mill is the highest ... Maguire and Chester are higher but Maguire was sold by Hull (when they were relegated - so a Prem club going down) and Chester was bought by a Champ team from a Prem team.

Still I guess with price going more and more crazy, we should really not let Brighton mug us off for Moore.

West Brom bought Chester for 10 million from the champ. Maguire cost more than that?

Like Maguire they bought Chester at end of the season after Hull got relegated from the Prem .... so at that stage Chester had been playing in the Premiership so not a Champ player.

TiagoIlori wrote:

Sutekh wrote:

TiagoIlori wrote:Brighton keen on offering a bid with Baldock who we’re keen on. I think he’s replaceable but we should absolutely rinse them as much as we can.

Baldock. 90 goals in 287 league apps. Roughly 1 goal in 3. 29 years old. Best return was the 34 in 83 games at Bristol City 5 years ago. Since then 18 in 81 at Brighton. All a bit on that side of the suggested deal really.

Stats don’t tell the whole story, he played a crucial role last season with Brighton when he was fit.

It depends what type of striker we want.
Baldock is (or was) quite quick and a good finisher but small whereas Hemed (who is probably also available) is slow, not a great finisher but quite a physical presence.

Coming back to Moore I think we are over-rating him because he has been such a trier for us and we would probably end up wasting the money (Aluko) which I suspect would be nearer £3million-although fairly quick he is quite small for a centre-back.
BTW didn't Goldson have major heart surgery?

Although Brighton are supposedly interested in him as a squad player (he wouldn't get in ahead of Dunk or Duffy)I don't think many Premier League clubs will be interested and if he goes, I agree with Ian, it would more likely be to one of the "big" clubs in The Championship.

TiagoIlori wrote:

Sutekh wrote:

TiagoIlori wrote:Brighton keen on offering a bid with Baldock who we’re keen on. I think he’s replaceable but we should absolutely rinse them as much as we can.

Baldock. 90 goals in 287 league apps. Roughly 1 goal in 3. 29 years old. Best return was the 34 in 83 games at Bristol City 5 years ago. Since then 18 in 81 at Brighton. All a bit on that side of the suggested deal really.

Stats don’t tell the whole story, he played a crucial role last season with Brighton when he was fit.

Do you mean 17-18?

He played twice that season in the league, 24 and 6 minutes.


Decent record 2016-17 but must be a bit of a chance with (effectively) a whole season out

Class from Brighton if they manage to get our best player and offload some of the crap on their wage bill all in the same deal

Baldock is a good champ player. Not sure one who would suit what we need though.

If the offer for Moore is £3m, we just won't sell. Imagine they won't even talk until it goes above 5

Speaking to a Brighton supporting m8, Baldock was apparently hugely important the season they went up. He's only 29 too - I thought he was well north of 30

Obviously, I'd prefer to keep Moore. I don't think we should really be entertaining any offers below £10m given today's market

genome wrote:Speaking to a Brighton supporting m8, Baldock was apparently hugely important the season they went up. He's only 29 too - I thought he was well north of 30

Obviously, I'd prefer to keep Moore. I don't think we should really be entertaining any offers below £10m given today's market

In their promotion season, he started 27 games (31 apps in total) and scored 11, which isn't too shabby as he played just behind the main striker or on the left alot.

For those of you who love the minutes per goal stat, that turns out to be a goal every 198 mins.

Surely the price is going to come down to whatever is in the release clause of his latest contract.

Having said that, £3m is a laughable figure from those who clearly have no clue of his potential value or ability.

He's 25, destined for the top flight and has every chance of establishing himself in the starting 11 of a lower Premiership side sooner rather than later.

As such, £5m in today's climate would be a great deal that Brighton could yet pull off. They should be thankful they have a decent manager with an eye for a bargain. Why their arrivals aren't piling in beggars belief.

Just because we were sh*t last season doesn't make Liam Moore less of a player.

A decent striker in part exchange would be very nice. As yet another top player who is destined for better things, I wish him well.

Woodcote Royal wrote:Surely the price is going to come down to whatever is in the release clause of his latest contract.

Having said that, £3m is a laughable figure from those who clearly have no clue of his potential value or ability.

He's 25, destined for the top flight and has every chance of establishing himself in the starting 11 of a lower Premiership side sooner rather than later.

As such, £5m in today's climate would be a great deal that Brighton could yet pull off. They should be thankful they have a decent manager with an eye for a bargain. Why their arrivals aren't piling in beggars belief.

Just because we were sh*t last season doesn't make Liam Moore less of a player.

A decent striker in part exchange would be very nice. As yet another top player who is destined for better things, I wish him well.

Goldson and Baldock straight swap

It'll be disappointing to lose a quality player BUT he was always leaving this summer. I just hope we hold out for a big fee, because in today's market he shouldn't be going anywhere for less than £8m.

Victor Meldrew wrote:

TiagoIlori wrote:

Sutekh wrote:
Baldock. 90 goals in 287 league apps. Roughly 1 goal in 3. 29 years old. Best return was the 34 in 83 games at Bristol City 5 years ago. Since then 18 in 81 at Brighton. All a bit on that side of the suggested deal really.

Stats don’t tell the whole story, he played a crucial role last season with Brighton when he was fit.

It depends what type of striker we want.
Baldock is (or was) quite quick and a good finisher but small whereas Hemed (who is probably also available) is slow, not a great finisher but quite a physical presence.

Coming back to Moore I think we are over-rating him because he has been such a trier for us and we would probably end up wasting the money (Aluko) which I suspect would be nearer £3million-although fairly quick he is quite small for a centre-back.
BTW didn't Goldson have major heart surgery?

Although Brighton are supposedly interested in him as a squad player (he wouldn't get in ahead of Dunk or Duffy)I don't think many Premier League clubs will be interested and if he goes, I agree with Ian, it would more likely be to one of the "big" clubs in The Championship.

Yes Goldson did but that was over a year ago and he’s back fit, played in the premier league for Brighton too

Snowball wrote:

TiagoIlori wrote:

Sutekh wrote:
Baldock. 90 goals in 287 league apps. Roughly 1 goal in 3. 29 years old. Best return was the 34 in 83 games at Bristol City 5 years ago. Since then 18 in 81 at Brighton. All a bit on that side of the suggested deal really.

Stats don’t tell the whole story, he played a crucial role last season with Brighton when he was fit.

Do you mean 17-18?

He played twice that season in the league, 24 and 6 minutes.


Decent record 2016-17 but must be a bit of a chance with (effectively) a whole season out

Nah I meant 16-17