by Gordons Cumming » 10 Nov 2006 13:14
by Alan Partridge » 10 Nov 2006 13:15
Squelchy2507 It doesn't seem to me that Marcus hast been playing as well this season, yet the stats don't really support that. The official ACTIM statistics, widely regarded as the most accurate reflection of a players performance, currently have Hahnemann as the 6th best goalkeeper in the Premiership - he was 5th before last Saturday.
So that doesn't suggest that he is a bad keeper. I think perhaps we just notice the mistakes more now because of the greater coverage and attention.
by zac naloen » 10 Nov 2006 13:16
by Top Flight » 10 Nov 2006 13:18
Squelchy2507 It doesn't seem to me that Marcus hast been playing as well this season, yet the stats don't really support that. The official ACTIM statistics, widely regarded as the most accurate reflection of a players performance, currently have Hahnemann as the 6th best goalkeeper in the Premiership - he was 5th before last Saturday.
So that doesn't suggest that he is a bad keeper. I think perhaps we just notice the mistakes more now because of the greater coverage and attention.
by Coppell's Right Footed 11 » 10 Nov 2006 13:19
LoyalRoyal22Coppell's Right Footed 11 After a brief chat with my brother he feels Hahnemann is an excellent goalkeeper however i feel strongly against and feel he is pretty terrible.
Im going to have a look at his pros:
Good Shotstopper
Strong Physically and wins most crosses
Good rappor with the fans
Fantastic Championship Goalie
Against:
Kicking is awful, kicks it out of play half the time
Distribution again is woeful, and this goes in with awareness. why he continues to kick it instead of rolling it out like every other keeper and resulting in losing possesion baffles me each week.
With better players in the prem i feel he is much more clumsy due to the different shots being used compared to the championship and he spills more than a baby on its napkin. I.e Kuyts goal on sat, and Yakubu on opening day.
Last criticism is his positioning. I feel he really is the a close second behind harper on the headless chicken syndrome. I.e Hulse And Downings goals against us.
Hahnemann is a good championship goalie and did wonders for us last season, but i just feel that hes not quite the premiership standard but this is my opinion..
Views??
Dominates on crosses? no he doesnt, that is one of his week points. His communication with defence is poor aswell, not enough shouting.
by Alan Partridge » 10 Nov 2006 13:20
Top FlightSquelchy2507 It doesn't seem to me that Marcus hast been playing as well this season, yet the stats don't really support that. The official ACTIM statistics, widely regarded as the most accurate reflection of a players performance, currently have Hahnemann as the 6th best goalkeeper in the Premiership - he was 5th before last Saturday.
So that doesn't suggest that he is a bad keeper. I think perhaps we just notice the mistakes more now because of the greater coverage and attention.
And the fact that our defence has offered zero protection to him.
The reason Hahnemann is 6th best keeper is because he has been the busiest. We have the worst home defensive record in the Premiership right now. Mainly due to Arsenal gunning us down.
As he has been so busy, and has statistically had more to do, he has made more saves, more mistakes, more spills and conceded more goals. This is the law of averages. If you create more chances and have more shots on goal, you will score more goals. Works the same at the other end.
My question is, would other keepers fair better if they had to endure the same pressure as Hahnemann? And if so, which of those keepers would join us?
by Irvinchangeyaname » 10 Nov 2006 13:23
Royalee Hahnemann's been quality for us over the years, but this season he's been nothing short of crap unfortunately.
by Squelchy2507 » 10 Nov 2006 13:24
Top Flight And the fact that our defence has offered zero protection to him.
The reason Hahnemann is 6th best keeper is because he has been the busiest. We have the worst home defensive record in the Premiership right now. Mainly due to Arsenal gunning us down.
As he has been so busy, and has statistically had more to do, he has made more saves, more mistakes, more spills and conceded more goals. This is the law of averages. If you create more chances and have more shots on goal, you will score more goals. Works the same at the other end.
My question is, would other keepers fair better if they had to endure the same pressure as Hahnemann? And if so, which of those keepers would join us?
Keepers like Reina have nothing to do compared to Hahnemann, but I would much rather have Hahnemann in goal than Reina. Reina makes the most shocking errors!
by Coppell's Right Footed 11 » 10 Nov 2006 13:25
Squelchy2507Top Flight And the fact that our defence has offered zero protection to him.
The reason Hahnemann is 6th best keeper is because he has been the busiest. We have the worst home defensive record in the Premiership right now. Mainly due to Arsenal gunning us down.
As he has been so busy, and has statistically had more to do, he has made more saves, more mistakes, more spills and conceded more goals. This is the law of averages. If you create more chances and have more shots on goal, you will score more goals. Works the same at the other end.
My question is, would other keepers fair better if they had to endure the same pressure as Hahnemann? And if so, which of those keepers would join us?
Keepers like Reina have nothing to do compared to Hahnemann, but I would much rather have Hahnemann in goal than Reina. Reina makes the most shocking errors!
Totally agree with you Top Flight. He has been over-worked and that will inevitably result in more mistakes.
by Royalphil » 10 Nov 2006 13:27
zac naloen He spills a lot more than i remember him doing, but is this a result of more "skillful" shots with more spin/curve?
To be honest, my only problem with Hahnemann this season is his distribution, which is woeful (although he seemed to try something different last week.. actually rolling/throwing the ball to our fast wingers). We may start seeing an improvement in that now, i certainly hope so. Otherwise if i was coppell i'd be looking for a new first goal keeper..
Distribution from the back line, for me, is just as key as stopping shots. At the moment he's just inviting them back on us, it's not his job to get the ball up the pitch. Just to get it to a player who can do so.
by Top Flight » 10 Nov 2006 13:31
by Muskrat » 10 Nov 2006 13:31
by Royalee » 10 Nov 2006 13:48
IrvinchangeyanameRoyalee Hahnemann's been quality for us over the years, but this season he's been nothing short of crap unfortunately.
A trifle harsh????!
by londinium » 10 Nov 2006 14:23
RoyaleeIrvinchangeyanameRoyalee Hahnemann's been quality for us over the years, but this season he's been nothing short of crap unfortunately.
A trifle harsh????!
Not when you compare his performances to what he's shown he's capable of in the past. Don't get me wrong, he's been absolutely awesome for us in the last few years, but this season his distribution has been absolutely shocking and he's made a lot of errors.
by Royalee » 10 Nov 2006 14:27
by rotherwick_royal » 10 Nov 2006 14:32
by Hoop Blah » 10 Nov 2006 15:06
Top Flight I think part of the reason Hahnemanns distribution has been poorer this season is due to the lack of availability of key players etc etc etc
I know I am about to receive some abuse now and arguments that balls go into row z of the East Stand etc.
by londinium » 10 Nov 2006 15:11
rotherwick_royal Couldn't understand why Stack has been loaned out. Maybe Coppell does have plans to get another keeper in January?
I like Marcus, and I agree he hasn't been given a great deal of protection recently, but there's this nagging suspicion he's not quite up to prem level.
by Top Flight » 10 Nov 2006 17:42
by aardvark » 10 Nov 2006 17:48
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