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by Alan Partridge » 01 Nov 2007 16:06

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Alan Partridge Of course you have coaches to work on your game but what you are given can't be coached. The way you run, jump etc is what you're given.



That's obviously incorrect as well.

Coaches completely remodel the way a fast bowler runs and bowls, likewise sprinters have their running action worked on and changed for maximum effect.
Football clubs employ specialist sprint coaches and will work on any aspect of a player if it can be improved.
If you put a player on a big weights programme they will bulk up and change the way the run/ move, or if you slim them down they will change.


How many Reading players or in fact any footballer's running styles, way they jump for the ball. I mean really basic human movements have ever changed??!

The way Doyle runs and plays the game is the same as when he joined, likewise Kitson and likewise Lita.

Fast bowling is a skill and of course skills can be modified and changed.

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by Behindu » 01 Nov 2007 16:08

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How many Reading players or in fact any footballer's running styles, way they jump for the ball. I mean really basic human movements have ever changed??!

The way Doyle runs and plays the game is the same as when he joined, likewise Kitson and likewise Lita.

Fast bowling is a skill and of course skills can be modified and changed.


So running isn't a skill ?
And the fast bowler's run up doesn't involve running ?
And club's employ sprint coaches just for the hell of it ?

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by Royal Rother » 01 Nov 2007 16:10

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Royal Rother In amongst praise for his good work I have been saying similar things about Mr. Lita for the last year or more actually, not just after 2 misses on Saturday.

He has missed more absolute sitters than any Reading striker I can remember.

The fact he is in the right place often enough to miss loads is a damned good sign of course, but if his instinct was simply tap it home rather than to pose whilst doing it he could truly be international class by now.


:lol: trying to pose while put it in?? Is he on his knees showing off his big muscles when he's trying to put the ball in the net then??! :lol:

:wink: :lol: :wink:

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by Alan Partridge » 01 Nov 2007 16:11

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Royal Rother In amongst praise for his good work I have been saying similar things about Mr. Lita for the last year or more actually, not just after 2 misses on Saturday.

He has missed more absolute sitters than any Reading striker I can remember.

The fact he is in the right place often enough to miss loads is a damned good sign of course, but if his instinct was simply tap it home rather than to pose whilst doing it he could truly be international class by now.


:lol: trying to pose while put it in?? Is he on his knees showing off his big muscles when he's trying to put the ball in the net then??! :lol:

:wink: :lol: :wink:


I did chuckle at that tbh :lol: :lol:

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by Baines » 01 Nov 2007 16:12

Royal Rother In amongst praise for his good work I have been saying similar things about Mr. Lita for the last year or more actually, not just after 2 misses on Saturday.

He has missed more absolute sitters than any Reading striker I can remember.

The fact he is in the right place often enough to miss loads is a damned good sign of course, but if his instinct was simply tap it home rather than to pose whilst doing it he could truly be international class by now.


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by zac naloen » 01 Nov 2007 16:14

If Leroys strut is natural body movement I'm surprised he can run at all with one leg shorter than the other..

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by Alan Partridge » 01 Nov 2007 16:22

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How many Reading players or in fact any footballer's running styles, way they jump for the ball. I mean really basic human movements have ever changed??!

The way Doyle runs and plays the game is the same as when he joined, likewise Kitson and likewise Lita.

Fast bowling is a skill and of course skills can be modified and changed.


So running isn't a skill ?
And the fast bowler's run up doesn't involve running ?
And club's employ sprint coaches just for the hell of it ?


Everyone can sprint just at different paces!!

The basic way people move can't be coached imo. I've not seen a footballer who's basic style of movement and running style has ever changed.

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by Hoop Blah » 01 Nov 2007 16:25

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Everyone can sprint just at different paces!!

The basic way people move can't be coached imo. I've not seen a footballer who's basic style of movement and running style has ever changed.


But the way they position themselves to receive, win or protect the ball is something that you see players change and develope all the time.

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by Alan Partridge » 01 Nov 2007 16:31

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Everyone can sprint just at different paces!!

The basic way people move can't be coached imo. I've not seen a footballer who's basic style of movement and running style has ever changed.


But the way they position themselves to receive, win or protect the ball is something that you see players change and develope all the time.


absolutely, that's a football coached skill. I think you have to agree that Lita's play outside the box has improved tenfold over the last year. For someone at 5'7 he is as strong as an ox and wins balls he has no right to win.


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by Hoop Blah » 01 Nov 2007 16:33

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Everyone can sprint just at different paces!!

The basic way people move can't be coached imo. I've not seen a footballer who's basic style of movement and running style has ever changed.


But the way they position themselves to receive, win or protect the ball is something that you see players change and develope all the time.


absolutely, that's a football coached skill. I think you have to agree that Lita's play outside the box has improved tenfold over the last year. For someone at 5'7 he is as strong as an ox and wins balls he has no right to win.


That's my issue with Lita, especially on Saturday. He would win the opportunity to get a hold of the ball through hard work and strength but then he'd conspire to lose posession by not doing the simple thing and getting the ball under control.

Thats when he costs us posession or tries to win a free kick by going to ground too easily.

He has it in him, it's just getting him to do it.

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by Millsy » 01 Nov 2007 19:48

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2 world wars, 1 world cup Might as well get to the main issue that's hiding under the surface and come straight out with it - do you like Lita?


No, no I don't.

There you go.


Case rested.

I appreciate the honesty.

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by floyd__streete » 01 Nov 2007 19:55

Royal Rother I just see things a bit more clearly than you do, and don't let the results affect my moods and opinions in the way you do.


I must compliment you on your most apt avatar, for looking down your nose on people is something you do during most on your contributions on here. Unless of course people give you the ego boost of unequivocal agreement with your opinions of course; personally I agree with one or two things you have said on the subject of Lita both on this thread and in the past but it is tricky to sort the wheat from the Rother chaff at times.

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by Archie's penalty » 01 Nov 2007 20:10

I think Lita's just waiting to move on. I think he may well score a lot of goals eventually this year, which may well give him the opportunity to leave. I don't like the guy that much tbh and I think that Kitson and Doyle are better and are far more loyal...


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by floyd__streete » 01 Nov 2007 20:22

Archie's penalty I think that Kitson and Doyle are better and are far more loyal...


Good grief - what on earth has loyalty, perceived loyalty, got to do with anything here :roll: . So you are saying that you don't think that Kitson and Doyle wouldn't be off out of the door at the first sniff of a big pay-cheque elsewhere?

I want Lita (or any of our players for that matter) to be ambitious and hungry and to put in performances that attract the big clubs because that means he is doing the business for us - which he patently isn't at present. If Lita has what will need to be a pretty sharp upturn in fortunes and other clubs come in for him then I will be happy for him to move on having done a job for us; I wouldn't expect him to want to stay at bloody Reading all his life if he has the talent to play somewhere bigger and better like Sidwell had/has.

Fair play to those of you honest enough to admit to a dislike to Lita. I disliked him for missing sitters last week but I couldn't give two hoots if he was a KFC bargain bucket eating, raping, pillaging, non-autograph signing b@stard off the pitch because my only interest in the man extends to an hour and a half on the pitch every weekend.
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by BLUES & ROYAL » 01 Nov 2007 20:53

Royal Rother He has missed more absolute sitters than any Reading striker I can remember.



You obviously never saw the mercurial Ollie Kearns then?

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by Man Friday » 01 Nov 2007 21:02

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Not if you are a Pompey fan :lol: He did a typical Savage / Brooker moment where he was running into the box one on one with the keeper in the Carling Cup and tripped over his own leg and the ball went rolling into the keepers hands. No one was ever near him at the time.

And again last night V Bolton.

When did Man City buy him?

Bolton, Blackburn - who's counting?

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by Broxroyal » 01 Nov 2007 21:05

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Royal Rother He has missed more absolute sitters than any Reading striker I can remember.



You obviously never saw the mercurial Ollie Kearns then?


Funnily enough Leroy is starting to remind me of Ollie. I liked Ollie, he scored lots of goals including some brilliant ones but his control was so poor that people ended up laughing at him at times.
When Leroy made a complete hash of that early chance set up by Doyler last Saturday it did remind me of the legendary Ollie Kearns.

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by Gordons Cumming » 01 Nov 2007 22:23

Ollie Kearns

Bless him.

I believe his now a multi-millionaire in Ireland.

Whose laughing now? :wink:

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by Royal Rother » 02 Nov 2007 09:26

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Royal Rother I just see things a bit more clearly than you do, and don't let the results affect my moods and opinions in the way you do.


I must compliment you on your most apt avatar, for looking down your nose on people is something you do during most on your contributions on here. Unless of course people give you the ego boost of unequivocal agreement with your opinions of course; personally I agree with one or two things you have said on the subject of Lita both on this thread and in the past but it is tricky to sort the wheat from the Rother chaff at times.

I do go back and read my posts in a flat tone sometimes and think "Hmmm, if they did take that at face value they probably would think I'm an arrogant git", but seriously, 90% of the time just place your TIC when you read me and you'll get a more accurate feed. Winks are just too obvious...

I have my opinions of course and whilst they are exaggerated for effect sometimes they are real as stated on here, but the "looking down nose bit" is just for fun. (Except with Daniella of course...)

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by brendywendy » 02 Nov 2007 09:48

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Everyone can sprint just at different paces!!

The basic way people move can't be coached imo. I've not seen a footballer who's basic style of movement and running style has ever changed.


But the way they position themselves to receive, win or protect the ball is something that you see players change and develope all the time.


absolutely, that's a football coached skill. I think you have to agree that Lita's play outside the box has improved tenfold over the last year. For someone at 5'7 he is as strong as an ox and wins balls he has no right to win.


That's my issue with Lita, especially on Saturday. He would win the opportunity to get a hold of the ball through hard work and strength but then he'd conspire to lose posession by not doing the simple thing and getting the ball under control.

Thats when he costs us posession or tries to win a free kick by going to ground too easily.

He has it in him, it's just getting him to do it.


I think that is rubbish, IMO, no offence

i dont remember him giving away possession on saturday, i remember some good lay offs, some brilliant flick ons in the air against big defenders
and he didnt go to ground stupidly once

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