QPR points deduction?

[floyd__streete]

I think this is all a ruse by SKY to provoke interest in the final game of the season. The build up to the final Championship game of the season will reach its peak as the man from the FA appears on the pitch before the game with a microphone and an envelope: "Queens Park Rangers are hereby formally <rip>.....CLEARED of all charges". Cue huge roar, cut to Tredder in the Loft wearing blue and white jesters hat jumping up and down, chins-a-wobbling, rumblestix flying.

[andrew1957]

I should think there will be a riot at QPR on the last day of the season if the fake hoops fans are told on the day that they are staying in the Championship for another season after all.

Colin will also probably burst a blood vessel or two. Would almost be worth getting tickets there rather than at the Madstad - for the entertainment value.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Now if all these organisations had the bottle to set in stone what type of penalties will be applied for what type of offence everyone would be clear.

But no they don't have the bottle, it's always inconsistent seemingly depending on who the offenders are and the situation.

Precedence clearly is, with a player who is not correctly registered to play, that the offending club shall be ejected/barred from the cup competitions for which the offence occured and/or be deducted the league points gained from the league games where the player played, while said player was incorrectly registered.

Now these offences have occured in competitions run by the FL and FA, therefore any subsequent precedence that comes from similar incidents by clubs playing in the Premiership can be ignored (i.e. Spurs and West Ham (both of which should have been relegated but that's another can of fish)).

At the end of the day it'll all come down to the small print in the agreement that binds together the basic competition that is the football league and by which clubs need to adhere.

You're missing the point. It's not whether the player is correctly registered to play, there's no question that he is. It's whether QPR actually own the player or if someone else does. There's never really been a case like this before - Tevez at West Ham was closest, but even that was substantially different.

[ZacNaloen]

Surely he wasn't correctly registered if they omitted to mention the third party ownership?

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Without knowing if and exactly how the cases against Hereford and Torquay differ from that of QPR- I am sure the forementioned will be seeking legal advice to an appeal in their case, if QPR are cleared of any wrong-doings ... Colin was first to champ about the Tevez saga and how his team suffered...shoe on other foot now Colin

[Svlad Cjelli]

Surely he wasn't correctly registered if they omitted to mention the third party ownership?

Yep, but it's a different charge, brought by a different authority

[T.R.O.L.I.]

cut to Tredder in the Loft

Now that IS a bit far fetched...

[Stranded]

How about this punishment then - nothing now but automatically forfeiting any parachute payments if/when relegated.

[glenroyal]

Anyone seen any official word on this since early March ?
At the time, because of the obvious disruption any points deduction decision would cause, the word was it needed to be heard and decided quickly, whilst more teams still had things left to play for. The longer it drags on the less likely.

Anyone know the actual latest ?
(I just did a quick google and all the news items were 8/9/10 March)

[Ian Royal]

Anyone seen any official word on this since early March ?
At the time, because of the obvious disruption any points deduction decision would cause, the word was it needed to be heard and decided quickly, whilst more teams still had things left to play for. The longer it drags on the less likely.

Anyone know the actual latest ?
(I just did a quick google and all the news items were 8/9/10 March)

As on this thread, the hearing is for three days, ending the day before the final game of the season. 3rd May start?

[Svlad Cjelli]

How about this punishment then - nothing now but automatically forfeiting any parachute payments if/when relegated.

That's probably outside the FA's jurisdiction - parachute payments are made by the PL. They'd have to fine them a sum equivalent to the value of the parachute payments, which would be extortionate.

[Millsy]

I say:

1) Chairman has to resign

2) Manager has to be banned from football

3) Players involved or in the know have to be sacked

4) 15 points need to be deducted

5) Ground has to be confiscated and burnt down

and that's just for stealing our hoops design years after we started using it.

I don't know about the latest infringement though

[Mr. Reading]

One thing's for certain, from now until the hearing you can bet there will be some teams who will be working hard to make those extra places... The bottom 3 look like they might already be down, finish 3rd bottom though and that slight chance of survival remains! Same with 7th/3rd obviously.

[Oi Oi Saveloy]

In my mind there is only one solution....WAR!!!!!

[glenroyal]

Anyone seen any official word on this since early March ?

As on this thread, the hearing is for three days, ending the day before the final game of the season. 3rd May start?

Many thanks; must have missed that in 24 pages of posts

[If you still hate Futcher]

I say:

1) Chairman has to resign

2) Manager has to be banned from football

3) Players involved or in the know have to be sacked

4) 15 points need to be deducted

5) Ground has to be confiscated and burnt down

and that's just for stealing our hoops design years after we started using it.

I don't know about the latest infringement though

With honest, middle of the road, fair minded thinking such as that I hereby nominate 2WW&1WC to head the panel to hear this case

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Cardiff boss Dave Jones bemused by QPR hearing date

Page last updated at 12:15 GMT, Friday, 8 April 2011 13:15 UK
Cardiff boss Dave Jones has questioned the timing of Queens Park Rangers' disciplinary hearing over the transfer of Alejandro Faurlin.

Pot.....kettle....black....

[Snowball]

I can assure you that under no circumstances will QPR allow the hearing to go ahead at that date.
They will arrange some sort of situation which causes it to be delayed.
Their solicitor will come down with a bowel movement, an allergic reaction, or have to wash his cat or something similar, then they will present a doctors note saying he is ill and that the hearing has to be postponed.
Then they will get it postponed, and the entire thing will drag on into next season.
Then after next season starts, they will say "oh it's so unfair to be punished for this, this happened so long ago!"

The authorities should warn them NOW that they will not
be allowed to postpone under any circumstances.

[Hampshire Royal]

If the first day of the 3-day hearing is the 3rd, then the last day will be the 5th.

[Svlad Cjelli]

I can assure you that under no circumstances will QPR allow the hearing to go ahead at that date.
They will arrange some sort of situation which causes it to be delayed.
Their solicitor will come down with a bowel movement, an allergic reaction, or have to wash his cat or something similar, then they will present a doctors note saying he is ill and that the hearing has to be postponed.
Then they will get it postponed, and the entire thing will drag on into next season.
Then after next season starts, they will say "oh it's so unfair to be punished for this, this happened so long ago!"

The authorities should warn them NOW that they will not
be allowed to postpone under any circumstances.

How would they be allowed to? If they don't turn up then the charges go undefended and they are automatically found guilty.