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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by John Madejski's Wallet » 10 Apr 2020 11:45

Snowball At tonight's Govt briefing Dominic Rabb gave these stats

65,077 Cases
16,784 Hospitalised
07,978 Died in Hospital
01,500 Critical
(this figure not yet given for today, so approximate based on yesterday)

This shows that a staggering 47.53% of hospital cases are dying.

When the critical cases and those lingering are added, that must surely go over 50%

12.26% of Confirmed Cases are shown to be dying. This is a crude rate, much under-played) and will rise to around 25% of CC's

The confirmed cases death rate is so far beyond useless in the UK, it really shouldn't be mentioned

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by PieEater » 10 Apr 2020 12:47

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Snowball At tonight's Govt briefing Dominic Rabb gave these stats

65,077 Cases
16,784 Hospitalised
07,978 Died in Hospital
01,500 Critical
(this figure not yet given for today, so approximate based on yesterday)

This shows that a staggering 47.53% of hospital cases are dying.

When the critical cases and those lingering are added, that must surely go over 50%

12.26% of Confirmed Cases are shown to be dying. This is a crude rate, much under-played) and will rise to around 25% of CC's

The confirmed cases death rate is so far beyond useless in the UK, it really shouldn't be mentioned


It was mentioned in the press briefing that although it may be useless as an absolute measure it was useful in comparing the same stats with other countries as they use similarly inaccurate counts. So you can get an idea of the relative progression.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Nameless » 10 Apr 2020 13:39

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Snowball At tonight's Govt briefing Dominic Rabb gave these stats

65,077 Cases
16,784 Hospitalised
07,978 Died in Hospital
01,500 Critical
(this figure not yet given for today, so approximate based on yesterday)

This shows that a staggering 47.53% of hospital cases are dying.

When the critical cases and those lingering are added, that must surely go over 50%

12.26% of Confirmed Cases are shown to be dying. This is a crude rate, much under-played) and will rise to around 25% of CC's

The confirmed cases death rate is so far beyond useless in the UK, it really shouldn't be mentioned




It was mentioned in the press briefing that although it may be useless as an absolute measure it was useful in comparing the same stats with other countries as they use similarly inaccurate counts. So you can get an idea of the relative progression.


I’m struggling with the idea that comparing two inaccurate numbers can give you anything meaningful.
Presumably it has been established that they are using carefully matched inaccurate methods to obtain their inaccurate figures ?
I’m also impressed at inaccurate numbers being reported to two decimal places....

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by PieEater » 10 Apr 2020 18:45

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John Madejski's Wallet The confirmed cases death rate is so far beyond useless in the UK, it really shouldn't be mentioned




It was mentioned in the press briefing that although it may be useless as an absolute measure it was useful in comparing the same stats with other countries as they use similarly inaccurate counts. So you can get an idea of the relative progression.


I’m struggling with the idea that comparing two inaccurate numbers can give you anything meaningful.
Presumably it has been established that they are using carefully matched inaccurate methods to obtain their inaccurate figures ?
I’m also impressed at inaccurate numbers being reported to two decimal places....


I see it being as simple as the total deaths reported are just those that turn up and are tested at a hospital, that is quite different from actual deaths that are not tested. Other countries use the same process, so the count of actual related virus deaths may be inaccurate but if everyone is only counting hospital deaths then you have a comparison.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Emmer Green Royal » 10 Apr 2020 21:33

Excuse me, but I would politely like to ask...















WHAT THE **** HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH the team, the management, and matches?


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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by muirinho » 10 Apr 2020 23:22

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It was mentioned in the press briefing that although it may be useless as an absolute measure it was useful in comparing the same stats with other countries as they use similarly inaccurate counts. So you can get an idea of the relative progression.


I’m struggling with the idea that comparing two inaccurate numbers can give you anything meaningful.
Presumably it has been established that they are using carefully matched inaccurate methods to obtain their inaccurate figures ?
I’m also impressed at inaccurate numbers being reported to two decimal places....


I see it being as simple as the total deaths reported are just those that turn up and are tested at a hospital, that is quite different from actual deaths that are not tested. Other countries use the same process, so the count of actual related virus deaths may be inaccurate but if everyone is only counting hospital deaths then you have a comparison.


But they aren't.
Ireland, for instance are including deaths in nursing homes, I believe Scotland are also. But England and Wales aren't.
If someone who is terminally ill with cancer dies after contracting Covid-19, they would be reported as a Covid death in UK and Ireland - but not, say, Austria.

So absolute numbers cannot be compared. Percentage increase comparisons can though.

i.e., If hospital deaths in country A are increasing by 10%, it is likely that non-hospital deaths are also increasing by the same percentage. So that 10% can be compared with country B without knowing whether they include non-hospital deaths or not.

Some of the more esoteric predictions on this thread though, I can't see justification for.

And, as I've said previously, you can't make judgements on deaths as some kind of a percentage of hospital admissions or ICU admissions - because different countries will have different criteria for when somebody ill gets admitted to hospital, and at what stage they get moved to ICU

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Apr 2020 09:30

Genuine question.

Why is anyone other than snowmentalstat opening this thread, let alone posting in it?
For me, I accidentally came to TB intending to go to AE.

A mistake I won't be repeating soon.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Royal Rother » 11 Apr 2020 10:02

Snowflake Royal Genuine question.

Why is anyone other than snowmentalstat opening this thread, let alone posting in it?
For me, I accidentally came to TB intending to go to AE.

A mistake I won't be repeating soon.


It’s a distraction to lighten the mood.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 11 Apr 2020 10:29

A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by The Royal Forester » 11 Apr 2020 13:29

2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.

Is your friend David Icke by any chance?

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by SCIAG » 11 Apr 2020 13:56

2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.

This is the worst post in this thread so far.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Uke » 11 Apr 2020 14:27

2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


Yup, that explains Iran, India and Japan...

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by sandman » 11 Apr 2020 15:20

2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


Presumably your friends brain transplant is delayed due to all the people being treated for the virus.


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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by SCIAG » 11 Apr 2020 16:18

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2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


Presumably your friends brain transplant is delayed due to all the people being treated for the virus.

Think it was cancelled at the midpoint.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Zip » 11 Apr 2020 16:53

:lol:

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Zip » 11 Apr 2020 16:53

2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


Are we due a collective whoosh here? Please please tell me this is so.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by Royal Rother » 11 Apr 2020 17:26

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2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


Are we due a collective whoosh here? Please please tell me this is so.


Definitely.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 11 Apr 2020 22:06

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2 world wars, 1 world cup A friend told me it's not a virus it's just waves coming from 5G masts. The stats seem to fit this theory as countries with 5G masts seems to have deaths. Use your phone less.


Are we due a collective whoosh here? Please please tell me this is so.


Definitely.


Can't blame a man for fishing here when it's so hard to go shopping. So easy too in this thread where seemingly anything goes.

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by tmesis » 12 Apr 2020 13:55

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Are we due a collective whoosh here? Please please tell me this is so.


Definitely.


Can't blame a man for fishing here when it's so hard to go shopping. So easy too in this thread where seemingly anything goes.

He should have asked for stats about phone masts

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Re: Coronavirus outbreak

by BR0B0T » 12 Apr 2020 16:57

Emmer Green Royal Excuse me, but I would politely like to ask...















WHAT THE **** HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH the team, the management, and matches?


xackly!!!!

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