by AthleticoSpizz » 24 Oct 2021 19:45
by Zip » 24 Oct 2021 19:49
by South Coast Royal » 24 Oct 2021 20:36
From Despair To Where?Larry_Parnell If anyone listens to the 'Undr the cosh' podcast a few players talk about their experience of Parky as a manager and not one of them rates him and most seem to hate him, a recent episode was even called 'Parky's Trapdoor' after a story about him in it. After hearing so many players slag him off I'd be concerned about him managing us.
If you do fancy a listen plenty of Reading related episodes including Glen Little, Nicky Forster, Martin Allen, Michael Duberry......
Listened to that. He comes across as an appalling man manager.
by From Despair To Where? » 24 Oct 2021 21:29
South Coast RoyalFrom Despair To Where?Larry_Parnell If anyone listens to the 'Undr the cosh' podcast a few players talk about their experience of Parky as a manager and not one of them rates him and most seem to hate him, a recent episode was even called 'Parky's Trapdoor' after a story about him in it. After hearing so many players slag him off I'd be concerned about him managing us.
If you do fancy a listen plenty of Reading related episodes including Glen Little, Nicky Forster, Martin Allen, Michael Duberry......
Listened to that. He comes across as an appalling man manager.
I guess he demands of his players what he himself did on the pitch-total commitment for the whole game and probably players aren't all as self-motivated as they should be.
A very likeable bloke that I have met a couple of times but maybe not cut out to be the arm- round- the- shoulder type of manager.
Similarly Martin Allen hasn't cut it either and at the top level Souness was never the top manager that he was expected to be.
Although a totally different type of player it seems to be a similar story with Hoddle who just couldn't understand why players were unable to do or see on a pitch what he could.
by WestYorksRoyal » 25 Oct 2021 09:25
by South Coast Royal » 25 Oct 2021 10:07
From Despair To Where?South Coast RoyalFrom Despair To Where?
Listened to that. He comes across as an appalling man manager.
I guess he demands of his players what he himself did on the pitch-total commitment for the whole game and probably players aren't all as self-motivated as they should be.
A very likeable bloke that I have met a couple of times but maybe not cut out to be the arm- round- the- shoulder type of manager.
Similarly Martin Allen hasn't cut it either and at the top level Souness was never the top manager that he was expected to be.
Although a totally different type of player it seems to be a similar story with Hoddle who just couldn't understand why players were unable to do or see on a pitch what he could.
Listen to the podcast, it was absolutely the opposite. Was scared of making difficult decisions or confrontation
Examples?
Player had twice come off the bench and scored. Parky told him he was a definite starter for the next game. Didn't pick him. When the player mentioned that he'd told he would definitely start the next game, Parky changed the team.
Would always seem to disappear whenever a player wanted to talk to him, hence "Parky's Trapdoor" I.e, he must have a trapdoor in his office.
Would bottle giving bad news face to face and would do it by voicemail. He'd ring them and hang up if they answered.
The players thought he was weak.
by Snowflake Royal » 25 Oct 2021 11:57
From Despair To Where?South Coast RoyalFrom Despair To Where?
Listened to that. He comes across as an appalling man manager.
I guess he demands of his players what he himself did on the pitch-total commitment for the whole game and probably players aren't all as self-motivated as they should be.
A very likeable bloke that I have met a couple of times but maybe not cut out to be the arm- round- the- shoulder type of manager.
Similarly Martin Allen hasn't cut it either and at the top level Souness was never the top manager that he was expected to be.
Although a totally different type of player it seems to be a similar story with Hoddle who just couldn't understand why players were unable to do or see on a pitch what he could.
Listen to the podcast, it was absolutely the opposite. Was scared of making difficult decisions or confrontation
Examples?
Player had twice come off the bench and scored. Parky told him he was a definite starter for the next game. Didn't pick him. When the player mentioned that he'd told he would definitely start the next game, Parky changed the team.
Would always seem to disappear whenever a player wanted to talk to him, hence "Parky's Trapdoor" I.e, he must have a trapdoor in his office.
Would bottle giving bad news face to face and would do it by voicemail. He'd ring them and hang up if they answered.
The players thought he was weak.
by From Despair To Where? » 25 Oct 2021 12:17
Snowflake RoyalFrom Despair To Where?South Coast Royal
I guess he demands of his players what he himself did on the pitch-total commitment for the whole game and probably players aren't all as self-motivated as they should be.
A very likeable bloke that I have met a couple of times but maybe not cut out to be the arm- round- the- shoulder type of manager.
Similarly Martin Allen hasn't cut it either and at the top level Souness was never the top manager that he was expected to be.
Although a totally different type of player it seems to be a similar story with Hoddle who just couldn't understand why players were unable to do or see on a pitch what he could.
Listen to the podcast, it was absolutely the opposite. Was scared of making difficult decisions or confrontation
Examples?
Player had twice come off the bench and scored. Parky told him he was a definite starter for the next game. Didn't pick him. When the player mentioned that he'd told he would definitely start the next game, Parky changed the team.
Would always seem to disappear whenever a player wanted to talk to him, hence "Parky's Trapdoor" I.e, he must have a trapdoor in his office.
Would bottle giving bad news face to face and would do it by voicemail. He'd ring them and hang up if they answered.
The players thought he was weak.
That's dreadful and a sign of a guy drowning.
by muirinho » 25 Oct 2021 17:11
WestYorksRoyal When you discuss realistic options who would want to come to us and take the job, it becomes one of the biggest arguments to give Pauno more time.
by Gunny Fishcake » 25 Oct 2021 17:57
Pepe the Horseman Gunnarsson is the current manager of HK in the Premier Division of Icelandic football, after helping them to a promotion in his first season with the team.
Yes please x
by AthleticoSpizz » 25 Oct 2021 18:00
by AthleticoSpizz » 25 Oct 2021 18:11
JQ, great exampleSouth Coast RoyalFrom Despair To Where?South Coast Royal
I guess he demands of his players what he himself did on the pitch-total commitment for the whole game and probably players aren't all as self-motivated as they should be.
A very likeable bloke that I have met a couple of times but maybe not cut out to be the arm- round- the- shoulder type of manager.
Similarly Martin Allen hasn't cut it either and at the top level Souness was never the top manager that he was expected to be.
Although a totally different type of player it seems to be a similar story with Hoddle who just couldn't understand why players were unable to do or see on a pitch what he could.
Listen to the podcast, it was absolutely the opposite. Was scared of making difficult decisions or confrontation
Examples?
Player had twice come off the bench and scored. Parky told him he was a definite starter for the next game. Didn't pick him. When the player mentioned that he'd told he would definitely start the next game, Parky changed the team.
Would always seem to disappear whenever a player wanted to talk to him, hence "Parky's Trapdoor" I.e, he must have a trapdoor in his office.
Would bottle giving bad news face to face and would do it by voicemail. He'd ring them and hang up if they answered.
The players thought he was weak.
A bit sad to hear all of that.
I'll still just think of him as the player he was with us and accept that management isn't necessarily the job for him beyond playing-file in the same category Jimmy Quinn.
by Pepe the Horseman » 26 Oct 2021 19:36
AthleticoSpizz When the time is right....not now...+2
by Crowbar6753 » 26 Oct 2021 20:51
Gunny FishcakePepe the Horseman Gunnarsson is the current manager of HK in the Premier Division of Icelandic football, after helping them to a promotion in his first season with the team.
Yes please x
+1
by Crowbar6753 » 26 Oct 2021 20:56
Crowbar6753Gunny FishcakePepe the Horseman Gunnarsson is the current manager of HK in the Premier Division of Icelandic football, after helping them to a promotion in his first season with the team.
Yes please x
+1
This would be such a feel good appointment for the club!! The word "Legend" was created for guys like gunnarsson, purly for the nutmeg and assit for Schlong against Liverpool.
If our Chinese owners want to make a statement to us fans, then this would be the appointment, and you never know he may even turn out to be a great manager!!
I may be wrong here, but didn't Potter (Brighton) manage a club in this league?
So its a massive +100000000000 from me
by Elm Park Kid » 26 Oct 2021 21:24
by Crowbar6753 » 26 Oct 2021 22:16
Elm Park Kid Does it ever occur to people that it's pointless calling on the manager to go given our owners' track record of hiring managers? I mean - we sack Pauno then they'll just find another rando with no experience of English or high-level football.
by Stranded » 27 Oct 2021 10:23
by Lower West » 27 Oct 2021 15:55
Stranded As it stands, Pauno will be leaving come the summer as his contract runs out.
by Hendo » 27 Oct 2021 16:20
Lower WestStranded As it stands, Pauno will be leaving come the summer as his contract runs out.
Other than for the money and blight on his personal reputation why would he wish to stay. Probably has learnt a lot and will seek a new better challenge.
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