HMRC Winding up petition/order

[Royal_jimmy]

This is an opportunity to blood in a few youngsters. I'd like to see 3-4 of them involved every week in the squad mixed with some capable experience. Will keep wage bill within the turnover maximum we're permitted too.

For the cup games we can involve 7-8 youngsters. This is the way we'll continue attracting the best talent to our academy.

[Elm Park Kid]

This is an opportunity to blood in a few youngsters. I'd like to see 3-4 of them involved every week in the squad mixed with some capable experience. Will keep wage bill within the turnover maximum we're permitted too.

For the cup games we can involve 7-8 youngsters. This is the way we'll continue attracting the best talent to our academy.

Do you think the fans will have the patience though if we start off poorly losing matches?

[Snowflake Royal]

I thought youth football was very skills based and the point of loan football is to get the youngsters used to being bullied by lower league bruisers.

That's one purpose, but it isn’t right for everyone.

[Royal_jimmy]

This is an opportunity to blood in a few youngsters. I'd like to see 3-4 of them involved every week in the squad mixed with some capable experience. Will keep wage bill within the turnover maximum we're permitted too.

For the cup games we can involve 7-8 youngsters. This is the way we'll continue attracting the best talent to our academy.

Do you think the fans will have the patience though if we start off poorly losing matches?

Given the mess we're in and a lack of expectations and how much of a soft bunch our fans are I highly doubt it.

[Forbury Lion]

To be fair to the BBC, as soon as we've been promoted in the past they've referred to us as Premiership newboys or similar so it works both ways.

To be fair to the BBC …

Results, scores, league tables and other sports info is really easy to find and navigate through on line ….

And … I like BBC Berks commentary …. and…. no

That’s it …

I have frequently got the impression that they don’t like our club whereas they appear to love anything in or from Manchester - or in or from other poverty stricken northern cities…

Almost everything else is politicised whiny dross.

Welcome back Schards

Schards was a childhood Man City fan, doubt he'll be moaning too much about the coverage being too Manc biased

[Clyde1998]

To be fair to the BBC …

Results, scores, league tables and other sports info is really easy to find and navigate through on line ….

And … I like BBC Berks commentary …. and…. no

That’s it …

I have frequently got the impression that they don’t like our club whereas they appear to love anything in or from Manchester - or in or from other poverty stricken northern cities…

Almost everything else is politicised whiny dross.

They are based in Salford these days aren't they? It clearly shows with their reporting.

My biggest gripe with the BBC's football reporting is having very limited reporting of lower leagues (even match reports are taken from the Press Association), apparently because of budget cuts, but having extensive reporting on anything related to Premier League clubs (especially the bigger sides) and increasingly the top European sides (Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc.). As I look at the BBC Football front page right now, Bayern winning a pre-season friendly is shown with greater prominence than Scottish League Cup matches and Welsh/Irish teams' Champions League qualifiers.

I would say their results, fixtures, scores and league table information has got progressively worse over the years - especially for the lower leagues. I have to go through a couple of menus to even get to League One and Two, when it always used to be directly accessible from the front page. Having to go day-by-day to find fixtures is annoying, especially when you're not certain of the day of a fixture you're looking for. Their live scores are typically much slower to update than other sources. Their website is still usable, but not as good as it has been in the past.

Their fixtures/calendar information for some other sports is significantly worse though. Their F1 calendar for example doesn't include the start times of sessions/races, making basically useless. I had a look at the Rugby Union fixtures and there's about ten consecutive days of "no fixtures found for this date" (why even show the date or let me click on it if there's nothing there?).

[tmesis]

Bayern winning a pre-season friendly is shown with greater prominence than Scottish League Cup matches and Welsh/Irish teams' Champions League qualifiers.

I suspect had the win been by a conventional scoreline, rather than 27-0, it would have been less prominent.

[Clyde1998]

Bayern winning a pre-season friendly is shown with greater prominence than Scottish League Cup matches and Welsh/Irish teams' Champions League qualifiers.

I suspect had the win been by a conventional scoreline, rather than 27-0, it would have been less prominent.

True, but they've beaten them by twenty goals multiple times and they're a literal amateur side. I can't find any information about what league this side plays in, but it appears to be the equivalent of Man City beating some Sunday league team - it would probably be more of a shock if they didn't win by 20+ goals given Bayern were playing first team players.

[Sutekh]

Bayern winning a pre-season friendly is shown with greater prominence than Scottish League Cup matches and Welsh/Irish teams' Champions League qualifiers.

I suspect had the win been by a conventional scoreline, rather than 27-0, it would have been less prominent.

True, but they've beaten them by twenty goals multiple times and they're a literal amateur side. I can't find any information about what league this side plays in, but it appears to be the equivalent of Man City beating some Sunday league team - it would probably be more of a shock if they didn't win by 20+ goals given Bayern were playing first team players.

BBC in being cr@p shock! Like every other website they just want clicks and they obviously think some top German side mullering the equivalent of Windsor & Eton reserves by a mammoth score will get more interest than Scottish, Irish and Welsh nobodies, even though as a UK media outlet they should be providing a proper service to fans of those clubs over said German side. Personally I'd rather the licence fee went into reporting on clubs in the British Isles and not wasted on top clubs from abroad who really don't need the coverage, but then this is the organisation that employs Gary Lineker.

[The Green Programme]

To be fair to the BBC …

Results, scores, league tables and other sports info is really easy to find and navigate through on line ….

And … I like BBC Berks commentary …. and…. no

That’s it …

I have frequently got the impression that they don’t like our club whereas they appear to love anything in or from Manchester - or in or from other poverty stricken northern cities…

Almost everything else is politicised whiny dross.

They are based in Salford these days aren't they? It clearly shows with their reporting.

My biggest gripe with the BBC's football reporting is having very limited reporting of lower leagues (even match reports are taken from the Press Association), apparently because of budget cuts, but having extensive reporting on anything related to Premier League clubs (especially the bigger sides) and increasingly the top European sides (Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc.). As I look at the BBC Football front page right now, Bayern winning a pre-season friendly is shown with greater prominence than Scottish League Cup matches and Welsh/Irish teams' Champions League qualifiers.

I would say their results, fixtures, scores and league table information has got progressively worse over the years - especially for the lower leagues. I have to go through a couple of menus to even get to League One and Two, when it always used to be directly accessible from the front page. Having to go day-by-day to find fixtures is annoying, especially when you're not certain of the day of a fixture you're looking for. Their live scores are typically much slower to update than other sources. Their website is still usable, but not as good as it has been in the past.

Their fixtures/calendar information for some other sports is significantly worse though. Their F1 calendar for example doesn't include the start times of sessions/races, making basically useless. I had a look at the Rugby Union fixtures and there's about ten consecutive days of "no fixtures found for this date" (why even show the date or let me click on it if there's nothing there?).

I cannot argue with this.

Your comment about overseas (Bayern) is interesting - I hadn’t paid too much attention to this but it’s true - there are random overseas games/clubs that the BBC appear to consider significant and others not so - and certainly the non-league stuff is very basic.

English non league football is thriving in many respects and is often more community based than the football league clubs.

Back to finances…. it’s very interesting to see Dorking Wanderers (not just on BOA) and their response to raising funds to continue their extraordinary rise …..

Crowdfunding - individual fans investing money and in doing so collectively owning a quarter of the Club.

Innovative and interesting….

And probably highly effective…

[The Green Programme]

I suspect had the win been by a conventional scoreline, rather than 27-0, it would have been less prominent.

True, but they've beaten them by twenty goals multiple times and they're a literal amateur side. I can't find any information about what league this side plays in, but it appears to be the equivalent of Man City beating some Sunday league team - it would probably be more of a shock if they didn't win by 20+ goals given Bayern were playing first team players.

BBC in being cr@p shock! Like every other website they just want clicks and they obviously think some top German side mullering the equivalent of Windsor & Eton reserves by a mammoth score will get more interest than Scottish, Irish and Welsh nobodies, even though as a UK media outlet they should be providing a proper service to fans of those clubs over said German side. Personally I'd rather the licence fee went into reporting on clubs in the British Isles and not wasted on top clubs from abroad who really don't need the coverage, but then this is the organisation that employs Gary Lineker.

Exactly…..

Vacuous virtue signalling - earning millions - about as genuinely interested in the plight of the less fortunate in the UK as the average champagne socialist….

Just say the right thing and rake it in …

[Snowflake Royal]

I suspect had the win been by a conventional scoreline, rather than 27-0, it would have been less prominent.

True, but they've beaten them by twenty goals multiple times and they're a literal amateur side. I can't find any information about what league this side plays in, but it appears to be the equivalent of Man City beating some Sunday league team - it would probably be more of a shock if they didn't win by 20+ goals given Bayern were playing first team players.

BBC in being cr@p shock! Like every other website they just want clicks and they obviously think some top German side mullering the equivalent of Windsor & Eton reserves by a mammoth score will get more interest than Scottish, Irish and Welsh nobodies, even though as a UK media outlet they should be providing a proper service to fans of those clubs over said German side. Personally I'd rather the licence fee went into reporting on clubs in the British Isles and not wasted on top clubs from abroad who really don't need the coverage, but then this is the organisation that employs Gary Lineker.

They're right.

And they can't win. Maintain standards and they're attacked for not serving a wide enough range of the public who pay for them. Target their content at the majority and They're accused of not maintaining standards or broad accessibility, but just chasing clicks.

Coverage of Bayern will generate far more interest than coverage of half of League 2 combined.

[tmesis]

True, but they've beaten them by twenty goals multiple times and they're a literal amateur side. I can't find any information about what league this side plays in, but it appears to be the equivalent of Man City beating some Sunday league team - it would probably be more of a shock if they didn't win by 20+ goals given Bayern were playing first team players.

BBC in being cr@p shock! Like every other website they just want clicks and they obviously think some top German side mullering the equivalent of Windsor & Eton reserves by a mammoth score will get more interest than Scottish, Irish and Welsh nobodies, even though as a UK media outlet they should be providing a proper service to fans of those clubs over said German side. Personally I'd rather the licence fee went into reporting on clubs in the British Isles and not wasted on top clubs from abroad who really don't need the coverage, but then this is the organisation that employs Gary Lineker.

Exactly…..

Vacuous virtue signalling - earning millions - about as genuinely interested in the plight of the less fortunate in the UK as the average champagne socialist….

Just say the right thing and rake it in …

And you know his true feeling how? Because The Daily Mail said so? How many refugees have you hosted in your household?

The idea that wealthy people can't possibly have any sense of social injustice is ridiculous, but is often spouted by right wingers to discredit them - when all it does really is make it clear that the people who moan about 'champagne socialists' don't care in the slightest about the causes those rich people talk about.

[tmesis]

Coverage of Bayern will generate far more interest than coverage of half of League 2 combined.

Those compiling this info are probably more likely to have had the story just pop up in their twitter feed.

Minimal effort reporting.

[Snowflake Royal]

Coverage of Bayern will generate far more interest than coverage of half of League 2 combined.

Those compiling this info are probably more likely to have had the story just pop up in their twitter feed.

Minimal effort reporting.

Minimal effort maximum reach vs massive effort minimal reach.

[The Green Programme]

True, but they've beaten them by twenty goals multiple times and they're a literal amateur side. I can't find any information about what league this side plays in, but it appears to be the equivalent of Man City beating some Sunday league team - it would probably be more of a shock if they didn't win by 20+ goals given Bayern were playing first team players.

BBC in being cr@p shock! Like every other website they just want clicks and they obviously think some top German side mullering the equivalent of Windsor & Eton reserves by a mammoth score will get more interest than Scottish, Irish and Welsh nobodies, even though as a UK media outlet they should be providing a proper service to fans of those clubs over said German side. Personally I'd rather the licence fee went into reporting on clubs in the British Isles and not wasted on top clubs from abroad who really don't need the coverage, but then this is the organisation that employs Gary Lineker.

They're right.

And they can't win. Maintain standards and they're attacked for not serving a wide enough range of the public who pay for them. Target their content at the majority and They're accused of not maintaining standards or broad accessibility, but just chasing clicks.

Coverage of Bayern will generate far more interest than coverage of half of League 2 combined.

The BBC News (and sport too) has become a politicised whiny narrative as opposed to being an organisation that delivers anything resembling journalism.

Channels such as Copa 90, Bunch of Amateurs and (at the corporate level) Netflix and others deliver far better quality football/sports documentaries - BT Sport are doing a very good job at National League coverage - BBC online used to be the best at providing all the basic information about football and other sport but if they resort to covering topics aimed at a world audience in order to arrest their decline, whilst ignoring the sport participated in by those who fund them… their long term future will be a one of continued decline…

[Elm Park Kid]

Not really interested in engaging in general BBC bashing - but their sports website has been long-overdue a redesign. Doing simple things is far too painful.

[under the tin]

Off piste, I know
Oh the good old BBC.
Presenter: "This is the six o'clock news on Tuesday the 18th of July"
Me: *Looks at calendar and checks wristwatch*

[The Green Programme]

BBC in being cr@p shock! Like every other website they just want clicks and they obviously think some top German side mullering the equivalent of Windsor & Eton reserves by a mammoth score will get more interest than Scottish, Irish and Welsh nobodies, even though as a UK media outlet they should be providing a proper service to fans of those clubs over said German side. Personally I'd rather the licence fee went into reporting on clubs in the British Isles and not wasted on top clubs from abroad who really don't need the coverage, but then this is the organisation that employs Gary Lineker.

Exactly…..

Vacuous virtue signalling - earning millions - about as genuinely interested in the plight of the less fortunate in the UK as the average champagne socialist….

Just say the right thing and rake it in …

And you know his true feeling how? Because The Daily Mail said so? How many refugees have you hosted in your household?

The idea that wealthy people can't possibly have any sense of social injustice is ridiculous, but is often spouted by right wingers to discredit them - when all it does really is make it clear that the people who moan about 'champagne socialists' don't care in the slightest about the causes those rich people talk about.

Did you cut and paste this from some kind of manifesto?

There are self promoters of all kinds who do stuff - publicise them and then benefit personally to a far greater extent than the proposed ‘good’ that they claim to have undertaken…

They consult their PR team…

See Bill Hicks and marketing or Thomas Sowell and the anointed…

It’s nothing new - it’s opportunistic - it is cost free in terms of accountability and it goes on across the political spectrum …

It creates division and does not serve as a solution to anything…

I mentioned ‘Champagne socialists’ in this instance because the BBC and its output appear to be dominated by them …

[The Green Programme]

Coverage of Bayern will generate far more interest than coverage of half of League 2 combined.

Those compiling this info are probably more likely to have had the story just pop up in their twitter feed.

Minimal effort reporting.

Minimal effort maximum reach vs massive effort minimal reach.

Exactly