Hunt v Selles - what's changed?

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Re: Hunt v Selles - what's changed?

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Mar 2025 12:27

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Royalwaster No-one has mentioned - 100% more likely to win penalties in the last minute of the game!


I can't help but feel a team with Smith playing who constantly complains to the ref for 90 minutes of a match is less likely to win marginal calls from a ref.

It surprises me how much managers / captains tolerate having players constantly complain to a ref for the entire match.

Referees are human. Why would they be more inclined to give a team a marginal penalty call if the lead striker has been a twat all game?

If home advantage sways referees, so will their general disposition to a collection of 11 players complaining at them all game. There is no way to prove it, but i can't help but feel Smith leaving will have had an influence on our recent increase in penalties being given.

There's two schools of thought.

1) don't complain and piss off the ref, he'll be more likely to give you decisions.

2) complain constantly, he'll be more likely to second guess himself and give you the next decision. Don’t complain and you make it easy for him to decide against you

The vast majority of football seems to go with 2. And they're probably right sadly.

I don't think Smith's issue was the complaining, I think it was the constantly going down easy looking for it, whilst also fouling a lot himself, and not complaining strategically, rather than indiscriminately

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Re: Hunt v Selles - what's changed?

by Greatwesternline » 03 Mar 2025 12:32

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Royalwaster No-one has mentioned - 100% more likely to win penalties in the last minute of the game!


I can't help but feel a team with Smith playing who constantly complains to the ref for 90 minutes of a match is less likely to win marginal calls from a ref.

It surprises me how much managers / captains tolerate having players constantly complain to a ref for the entire match.

Referees are human. Why would they be more inclined to give a team a marginal penalty call if the lead striker has been a twat all game?

If home advantage sways referees, so will their general disposition to a collection of 11 players complaining at them all game. There is no way to prove it, but i can't help but feel Smith leaving will have had an influence on our recent increase in penalties being given.

There's two schools of thought.

1) don't complain and piss off the ref, he'll be more likely to give you decisions.

2) complain constantly, he'll be more likely to second guess himself and give you the next decision. Don’t complain and you make it easy for him to decide against you

The vast majority of football seems to go with 2. And they're probably right sadly.

I don't think Smith's issue was the complaining, I think it was the constantly going down easy looking for it, whilst also fouling a lot himself, and not complaining strategically, rather than indiscriminately


Yeh the strategic versus indiscriminate is what gets me.

Complaining vociferously for a couple of incidents must work better than complaining at the ref for not getting a thrown in that definitely wasn't yours. Smith complained to the ref after every passage of play involving him.

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Re: Hunt v Selles - what's changed?

by The New Rouge » 06 Mar 2025 16:02

Brogue Ruben Selles vs Noel Hunt - a Data-Focused Managerial Tactical Comparison.

Under Selles, Reading had much greater attacking presence, with strong high regain totals and respectable field tilt (penalty area touches compared to opponents), underlined by counter-pressing and emphasis on quick transitions.

Hunt's Reading have become more pragmatic, but lack an attacking identity, with a noticeable increase in direct play. There has been a severe drop off in attacking output, averaging just 1 npxG per 90, four shots, and over five penalty area touches fewer than under the Spaniard.



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