Rival Watch

[Sutekh]

Just to summarise things further. At this point Reading need 6 points to be mathematically sure of staying up this season.

Peterborough and Derby can only get a maximum of 43 points so Reading need to pick up 4 more points to take them out of the equation completely, presuming they cannot contrive the results to do it themselves.

Barnsley have to win every game they have left to reach 45 points which more than likely would given them a better goal difference than Reading, thus the 6 points to be mathematically safe.

Technically if Reading get 6 points and Barnsley did win all their remaining games then both teams could survive but only if Birmingham lost every game that they have left.

Personally I think Reading will need the aforementioned 4 points so hoping that the team aren’t too knackered after Sheffield and can step up to the mark again. Certainly hope they have learned from the Cardiff game….

[leon]

Classic Fulham. Absolute fannies just like their braying tiresome fans.

[windermereROYAL]

Really, only we could be anxious about throwing a 9 point lead with 4 to play, but that`s Reading of the last 5 years. Hull city is the game for me with their appalling home record if we don`t get the job done on Monday.

[tidus_mi2]

Forget beating the 106, Fulham might not even beat the 89 we got in 2012

[Stranded]

The Derby result was only a concern if we had not won. We did, so relax.

I would even go as far as to say that Derby don't win that if all games had started at 3pm. It was the win of a side who have 1 chance left.

Since Ince took over we are 10th in the form table. Over 6,8,10,12, we are the best team down there and we just won away at a side who hadn't lost there since October, doubling their goals conceded in that time.

For Derby to catch us, we need to suddenly become the worst team in the league whilst they win 4 or 5 in a row - we'll be fine.

[Stranded]

Every result over the next 3 rounds of games will need to go against us now for any of the bottom 3 to catch us.

We will have to lose the next 3 and Derby win the next 2 or 3, to make it even a tiny bit nervous.

If you think that will happen, I recommend you get down the bookies and put an accumulator on.

[From Despair To Where?]

Every result over the next 3 rounds of games will need to go against us now for any of the bottom 3 to catch us.

We will have to lose the next 3 and Derby win the next 2 or 3, to make it even a tiny bit nervous.

If you think that will happen, I recommend you get down the bookies and put an accumulator on.

We're 16-1 to go down.

I'm comparison, Barnsley are 1-25, Derby 1-100 and Peterborough 1-500

[Pepe the Horseman]

We could lose the next four and we'll still stay up. I bet none of the others reach 40.

[Snowflake Royal]

Every result over the next 3 rounds of games will need to go against us now for any of the bottom 3 to catch us.

We will have to lose the next 3 and Derby win the next 2 or 3, to make it even a tiny bit nervous.

If you think that will happen, I recommend you get down the bookies and put an accumulator on.

We're 16-1 to go down.

I'm comparison, Barnsley are 1-25, Derby 1-100 and Peterborough 1-500

Yep. Bunch of fannies on here at times. It's been pretty clear the bottom 3 are staying the bottom 3 for a few weeks now.

[Stranded]

Every result over the next 3 rounds of games will need to go against us now for any of the bottom 3 to catch us.

We will have to lose the next 3 and Derby win the next 2 or 3, to make it even a tiny bit nervous.

If you think that will happen, I recommend you get down the bookies and put an accumulator on.

We're 16-1 to go down.

I'm comparison, Barnsley are 1-25, Derby 1-100 and Peterborough 1-500

Says it all. We could go down but results have to fall in pretty much one exact way for that to happen.

[Zip]

If the results go our on Monday it’s all over.
We win and Derby and Barnsley lose they are both down. Posh would be 9 behind with 3 to go with a much worse goal difference.

[From Despair To Where?]

Every result over the next 3 rounds of games will need to go against us now for any of the bottom 3 to catch us.

We will have to lose the next 3 and Derby win the next 2 or 3, to make it even a tiny bit nervous.

If you think that will happen, I recommend you get down the bookies and put an accumulator on.

We're 16-1 to go down.

I'm comparison, Barnsley are 1-25, Derby 1-100 and Peterborough 1-500

Says it all. We could go down but results have to fall in pretty much one exact way for that to happen.

Worth putting a tenner on then.

[Snowball]

I DON’T think we will go down but there is a lot of rubbish being spouted about “three teams needing to do fantastically well”

NO, ONE team needs to do well to pass us. Any one of three with Derby probably the most likely, followed by Barnsley.

When you phrase things as “We just need 3-4 points from 4 games” we look safe, but should we lose to Swansea on Monday and Barnsley and Derby win then nerves could easily come back in to play

Barnsley would be 7 behind with a game in hand and a better GD

TOTALLY agree it is highly unlikely we will now go down and PROBABLY we will be mathematically safe with two games to go, but two quick defeats v Swansea and Hull with one of Barnsley-Derby having a miraculous two wins and it’s all back in the melting pot with B-D surging with momentum and RDG suddenly very possibly imploding.

Let’s beat Swansea, THEN it’s done

[Zip]

I DON’T think we will go down but there is a lot of rubbish being spouted about “three teams needing to do fantastically well”

NO, ONE team needs to do well to pass us. Any one of three with Derby probably the most likely, followed by Barnsley.

When you phrase things as “We just need 3-4 points from 4 games” we look safe, but should we lose to Swansea on Monday and Barnsley and Derby win then nerves could easily come back in to play

Barnsley would be 7 behind with a game in hand and a better GD

TOTALLY agree it is highly unlikely we will now go down and PROBABLY we will be mathematically safe with two games to go, but two quick defeats v Swansea and Hull with one of Barnsley-Derby having a miraculous two wins and it’s all back in the melting pot with B-D surging with momentum and RDG suddenly very possibly imploding.

Let’s beat Swansea, THEN it’s done

A big +1 to that. I hope the players are not as complacent as some on here. For Derby to turn it around last night shows they are fighting for their lives. If we continue to play like we did yesterday we will be fine but it’s not over.

[Snowflake Royal]

Wet blankets.

[Zip]

I wish I was as hard as you master Royal.

[Stranded]

I DON’T think we will go down but there is a lot of rubbish being spouted about “three teams needing to do fantastically well”

NO, ONE team needs to do well to pass us. Any one of three with Derby probably the most likely, followed by Barnsley.

When you phrase things as “We just need 3-4 points from 4 games” we look safe, but should we lose to Swansea on Monday and Barnsley and Derby win then nerves could easily come back in to play

Barnsley would be 7 behind with a game in hand and a better GD

TOTALLY agree it is highly unlikely we will now go down and PROBABLY we will be mathematically safe with two games to go, but two quick defeats v Swansea and Hull with one of Barnsley-Derby having a miraculous two wins and it’s all back in the melting pot with B-D surging with momentum and RDG suddenly very possibly imploding.

Let’s beat Swansea, THEN it’s done

A big +1 to that. I hope the players are not as complacent as some on here. For Derby to turn it around last night shows they are fighting for their lives. If we continue to play like we did yesterday we will be fine but it’s not over.

And winning with a 92nd min goal having conceded on 90 shows we are fighting for ours.

Literally no-one is saying not 1 side can pass us but that is such a small chance as to not worry about yet.

Over 6 games we are the 4th best team in this division. At crunch time.

Someone can go past us but it involves a perfect storm of results. We simply have to lose 2 on the bounce and one of the bottom 3 win 2 in that time. That would be 3 on the spin for Derby or Posh.

If you want to worry about one side hitting perfection whilst we show massive regression then knock yourself out, but I'd save it for when the gap to the bottom 3 starts decreasing - it actually grew yesterday.

Also worth noting that at one point Derby got relatively close a few weeks back, 4 points back wasn't it?, then essentially fell of a cliff to be back where they are now. So even if they were to get closer, what's to say they won't freeze again.

[bcubed]

Classic Fulham. Absolute fannies just like their braying tiresome fans.

Its as though they felt there aren't enough reasons for us to hate them

[TiagoIlori]

Only pessimistic feeling should be because of the cynical factor. The players are fighting, Hull and West Brom are two sides we can do well against as they are likely to be on the beaches by the time we play them. Luton will be under a lot of pressure so we can almost certainly spring a surprise result. The game that is tough is Swansea at home as they will be motivated to build on the momentum into next season.

Only team we should be worried about are Barnsley who have three very winnable home games from their next four to build up their momentum. But beat one of Hull or Swansea, they would need to go and get a result at Huddersfield.

[Snowflake Royal]

I wish I was as hard as you master Royal.

It's just odds. Why worry about something that is spectacularly unlikely to happen.

To make 37, Derby and Peterborough still have to win 2 of their last four and Barnsley 2 wins 1 draw of their last 5. One of them may do it, but it''l be a struggle, let alone 40. Adn we aren't going to lose our last 4 games anyway.