Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by papereyes » 11 Aug 2008 10:39

He is a figure of fun/scapegoat more for the reason that he embodies our dysfunctional recent scouting/transfer dealings.


Exactly.

He wasn't awful.

Marek was worse while he was on. I ended up defending him with: "he's not dirty, he's just slow"

Anyway, I've started a new job so its unlikely I'll be on here as much. Do you know what annoys me most about this season? None of our players excite me. None make me think "What's he going to do now" or enthuse me past thinking that we really should have put a ginger wig on Lita and tried to sell him.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Vision » 11 Aug 2008 10:40

cmonurz Not to drag this towards a transfer debate again, but the lack of signings would matter less to me if we were giving chances to young players. But we aren't doing that either. Let's hope that changes at Plymouth, where Coppell will have a simple choice between Cisse and Karacan.


Yep.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by SpaceCruiser » 11 Aug 2008 10:42

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Platypuss I do feel sorry for him though - he plays his career at left wing, and then we come along to try and convert him into a right winger. Why not get a proper right winger in the first place?


He's right footed though, isn't he? :roll:


How does that, in any way, change the validity of my statement? :roll:


Well, you would want a left-footed player to play on the left side, wouldn't you? Remember we were looking for a right winger and right wingers usually are right-footed, aren't they? :roll:

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Vision » 11 Aug 2008 10:43

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Do you know what annoys me most about this season? None of our players excite me. None make me think "What's he going to do now"


You're saying that on a thread about Jimmy Kebe???

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by papereyes » 11 Aug 2008 10:43

So why not buy a proper right winger in the first place?


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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by papereyes » 11 Aug 2008 10:44

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Do you know what annoys me most about this season? None of our players excite me. None make me think "What's he going to do now"


You're saying that on a thread about Jimmy Kebe???


The answer to that, my friend, is "Fall over and watch the ball trickle to the feet of the left back".

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by West Stand Man » 11 Aug 2008 10:48

I concur, Kebe wasn't great; but those of you who say he was X times better than Harper were obviously watching a different game to the one I was.

The whole performance was pretty poor, and it has to get better than that (and soon). Too many players seemed to be off key, and that isn't good enough, but I am sure that the coaching team don't need me or you to tell them that. One swallow doesn't make a summer, nor does one snowflake make a winter. There are 45 more league games to go yet, and we'll play better than that in some and worse in others. The points achieved will not always be a direct reflection of the quality of our play - but that has always been the case.
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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by cmonurz » 11 Aug 2008 10:54

West Stand Man, you've just provided me further evidence that I am pretty much the only fan who genuinely hoped to see a gulf in class between Reading players, and those who were playing in League One last season.

We'll play worse than that? F*ck me, it's going to be pretty desperate this season. We have dropped down a division - we should have something about us.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Wycombe Royal » 11 Aug 2008 10:56

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tlcs What honestly do you expect..we paid peanuts for him from a French second division team who had him on loan so they must have the same opinion as us that hes PANTS .
If he was any good at all he would have been spotted by talent scout who would have flogged him to a premiership club..oh i forgot we bought him.
Besides watching him at the gunners last season i also watched him in the res at West Ham and believe me he is shite.
We needed to address the right hand side last season and we still do today that also includes Rosenior !!!!

Guy Moussi was signed from a French second division club for less than we paid for Kebe - yet most say he was man of the match.


Which says all you need to know about our scouting system (and our midfield).

Yes it does, but that is another argument.....


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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by starbug » 11 Aug 2008 10:58

well I didn't think much of Little when he first joined on loan but looked how he turned out.

Give the lad a break he was no worse than any other players.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by 2.8 lita injection » 11 Aug 2008 11:17

Its still very early in Kebe's career at Reading, he can only get better. 8)

I still think he was better than Convey,Cisse & Harper on sunday. Convey was shocking, he gave the ball away too much & as soon as the forest players showed Convey onto his right foot he was clueless.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by chilipepper91 » 11 Aug 2008 11:21

Every time Harper got the ball he just wanted to get rid. Once he played a great through ball, and that was it. Otherwise he was shocking.

Kebe created a few things at least. Still prone to the odd (well, frequent) lapse in concentration/skill.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Platypuss » 11 Aug 2008 11:34

SpaceCruiser Well, you would want a left-footed player to play on the left side, wouldn't you? Remember we were looking for a right winger and right wingers usually are right-footed, aren't they? :roll:


It doesn't matter which is their natural foot as long as they are effective in the position. Kebe's career as a left winger would suggest that he is more comfortable there and would not be a ready-made right winger.


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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by SpaceCruiser » 11 Aug 2008 11:43

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SpaceCruiser Well, you would want a left-footed player to play on the left side, wouldn't you? Remember we were looking for a right winger and right wingers usually are right-footed, aren't they? :roll:


It doesn't matter which is their natural foot as long as they are effective in the position. Kebe's career as a left winger would suggest that he is more comfortable there and would not be a ready-made right winger.


Well, I would agree with you if he had been playing there for years. However, I've looked up his stats on soccerbase.com, he's only played 26 games for two French clubs - hardly the sign of somebody who has been playing left wing for years, is it?

Anyway, a good winger should be able to adapt to whatever flank they're playing on.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by cmonurz » 11 Aug 2008 11:47

That shows a complete lack of understanding of football, Spacey. As Jole Cole has shown playing for England, having a wrong-footer on either flank completely changes the dynamic of one side of the field.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Rex » 11 Aug 2008 11:55

Plus anyone playing on either wing who is a natural left or right footed player will have to cut in and shift to their stronger foot at some point in the run. Doing this and keeping their balance, and at the same time looking to cross in a killer ball is something that an opposition player will always predict. It goes without saying that a natural left/right sided player will run and pass on the hoof at the same time. Said it anyway!

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by rg6royal » 11 Aug 2008 12:10

Why dont we try Kebe on the left then? As he is a good player

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Ian Royal » 11 Aug 2008 12:32

rg6royal Why dont we try Kebe on the left then? As he is a good player


Evidence please?

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Whore Jackie » 11 Aug 2008 12:49

cmonurz That shows a complete lack of understanding of football, Spacey. As Jole Cole has shown playing for England, having a wrong-footer on either flank completely changes the dynamic of one side of the field.


Indeed. Pires and Henry spring to mind too.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by joe999 » 11 Aug 2008 20:17

Do people REALLY think he was no worse than anyone else?

I thought we werent great yesterday but at least we looked dangerous down the left

I thought convey was the only one who looked anywhere near premieriship quality, and he barely played last season!

Kebe is the equivalent to that bloke who got signed by.. was it southampton that time? claiming he was somoenes brother but had actually never played football?

The guy is SO irritaitng, cant run, cant pass, cant shoot, doesnt look where hes going, cant stay on his feet, cant cross

If you are the above, you become frustrating after 5 minutes, so whgen it gets to around 85, youre seriously pissed off.

I would repeat what I shouted at one point, but the word oxf*rd would come up so many times on this screen it would hurt my eyes.

And we cant sell him cos we dont buy.

Fecking useless.

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