Scunthorpe - back from the lame

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by LoyalRoyal22 » 12 Dec 2009 21:29

royalexile The reaction to the interview was the signs of a manager finally showing the pressure. He showed a heavy lashing of arrogance in the interview and for once Dellor never sat on the simpering fence.

Oh and for those still in dreamland living on the past glories of the prem years, this is here, right now and we are in the shit. So much so even a digger, air sea rescue or the fcuking life guard couldn't get us out of this hole.



What hole? i was under the impression that i hve just got home from a football match where my team were basically unlucky not to win at least 4-1, because on another day, it would have been.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by Southbank Old Boy » 12 Dec 2009 21:30

Victor Meldrew Why do people keep coming on here and saying that we should have won something or other be that 4,5 or 6 to NIL.
Scunthorpe scored a goal and had two other gilt-edged chances so the idea of NIL is clearly stupid.
Can't you see that our defensive five is very shaky in every game and as we all know teams are built from the back?
At least the RTGs have stopped talking about luck-it's bad finishing and bad defending that produce results,not bad luck.


Spot on

Our players just arent good enough, anyone with half a brain could see that at the start of the season

Rodgers tried to get in players to rectify it, but he didnt complete the job. I hope he gets the time to do it and obviously hope he pulls it off

Until we improve the quality we have at both ends I dont know why anyone expects any more than a midtable finish at best. We are still placed to pull that off if we get the right kind of additions in Jan

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 21:32

winchester_royal But is BR not unlucky that that's how it turned out? If I was him I'd be feeling as if the whole world was against me TBH.


No, because he put out a team which lacks very heavily in the finishing department.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by handbags_harris » 12 Dec 2009 21:32

strap [There are 20 teams who have amassed more points than us in the season so far.


That's not strictly true though strap, it's actually 19 teams who have amassed more points than us in the season so far. We are 21st on goal difference :wink:

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 21:33

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royalexile The reaction to the interview was the signs of a manager finally showing the pressure. He showed a heavy lashing of arrogance in the interview and for once Dellor never sat on the simpering fence.

Oh and for those still in dreamland living on the past glories of the prem years, this is here, right now and we are in the shit. So much so even a digger, air sea rescue or the fcuking life guard couldn't get us out of this hole.



What hole? i was under the impression that i hve just got home from a football match where my team were basically unlucky not to win at least 4-1, because on another day, it would have been.


Only with an additional striker we don't currently have available playing.


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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by sandman » 12 Dec 2009 21:34

LoyalRoyal22 I actually think today was one of our better peformances, and it looked like they are starting to take on board what Rodgers wants, some of the football was really good, a fair reflection should have been 4-0, only a lack of finishing prevented that from happening. I also thought our defence was steady for most of the game, with Cisse doing a brilliant job infront of them. How can that peformance be worse than the Palace game, when a fair reflection of todays game should have been 4-0??? we lost 4-2 on tuesday, Dellor a Idiot. I back Rodgers untill end of next season(aslong as we not in league one, ovb) I still think we have a base of a squad to get into Mid table over the next couple of months, then push on next season, with a better style than we had with Coppell.

Also the amount of people, where i sit( North Stand) who get so impatient and keep shouting `GET IT UP FIELD` , was doing my head in, long passing is not nice on the eye, and not very affective, the best football was when the defence kept it untill there midfield commited themselves, and we just sliced them open, but most of the Reading fans dont understand the game properly.

You can tell we played well, when i cant name one player that had a bad game, i thought Cisse,Pearce,Matejovsky,Mcanuff were the better players, especially Jobi, he reminded me of Glenn Little.


Moses was the difference between a draw and loss on Tuesday. If you can't recognise that Short Cummings is Shit then God help you. Two of our better attacks on Tuesday were from long balls behind the full backs. We were shouting get it up the field as Pearce and Fed were passing it to each other at the back for about a minute. No one wants us to just play it long but if the team are going to pass it around at the back why can't they switch the play quicker and pass with a greater intensity?

We need to mix it up more and when we are doing the short passing it needs to be quicker as it was for the second goal against Wednesday. We're a young team why don't we use that energy.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by FiNeRaIn » 12 Dec 2009 21:35

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handbags_harris It is not unlucky to miss so many chances.


But hitting the bar twice and being thwarted by several good saves by the opposing keeper is.


To continually spurn such glorious opportunities as the ones we had today is ineptitude, not unlucky. We continually missed from inside the area, looking at the text on the OS and deducing what they were from memory we had eleven great opportunities to score and only took one. That is inadequate finishing, not unlucky. I don't care whether the 'keeper saved it, or we hit the bar or put it wide. The 'keeper saving a shot shouldn't be such a surprise seeing as that's what he's there for, and hitting the frame of the goal from 6 yards is inexcusable in any circumstances. Inadequate, NOT unlucky.


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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by winchester_royal » 12 Dec 2009 21:35

It's nice to see all the STG's patting each other on the back again.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by Southbank Old Boy » 12 Dec 2009 21:37

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LoyalRoyal22 I actually think today was one of our better peformances, and it looked like they are starting to take on board what Rodgers wants, some of the football was really good, a fair reflection should have been 4-0, only a lack of finishing prevented that from happening. I also thought our defence was steady for most of the game, with Cisse doing a brilliant job infront of them. How can that peformance be worse than the Palace game, when a fair reflection of todays game should have been 4-0??? we lost 4-2 on tuesday, Dellor a Idiot. I back Rodgers untill end of next season(aslong as we not in league one, ovb) I still think we have a base of a squad to get into Mid table over the next couple of months, then push on next season, with a better style than we had with Coppell.

Also the amount of people, where i sit( North Stand) who get so impatient and keep shouting `GET IT UP FIELD` , was doing my head in, long passing is not nice on the eye, and not very affective, the best football was when the defence kept it untill there midfield commited themselves, and we just sliced them open, but most of the Reading fans dont understand the game properly.

You can tell we played well, when i cant name one player that had a bad game, i thought Cisse,Pearce,Matejovsky,Mcanuff were the better players, especially Jobi, he reminded me of Glenn Little.


Moses was the difference between a draw and loss on Tuesday. If you can't recognise that Short Cummings is Shit then God help you. Two of our better attacks on Tuesday were from long balls behind the full backs. We were shouting get it up the field as Pearce and Fed were passing it to each other at the back for about a minute. No one wants us to just play it long but if the team are going to pass it around at the back why can't they switch the play quicker and pass with a greater intensity?

We need to mix it up more and when we are doing the short passing it needs to be quicker as it was for the second goal against Wednesday. We're a young team why don't we use that energy.


Not just Moses, our keepers lack of ability to keep the ball out of his net and our inability to take chances at the other end


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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by handbags_harris » 12 Dec 2009 21:37

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Victor Meldrew Why do people keep coming on here and saying that we should have won something or other be that 4,5 or 6 to NIL.
Scunthorpe scored a goal and had two other gilt-edged chances so the idea of NIL is clearly stupid.
Can't you see that our defensive five is very shaky in every game and as we all know teams are built from the back?
At least the RTGs have stopped talking about luck-it's bad finishing and bad defending that produce results,not bad luck.


Spot on

Our players just arent good enough, anyone with half a brain could see that at the start of the season

Rodgers tried to get in players to rectify it, but he didnt complete the job. I hope he gets the time to do it and obviously hope he pulls it off

Until we improve the quality we have at both ends I dont know why anyone expects any more than a midtable finish at best. We are still placed to pull that off if we get the right kind of additions in Jan


I missed this from VM. Scunthorpe had three one-on-one's, plus a free header six yards out, plus their well worked goal. That should not constitute a NIL in RFC's goals conceded statistic by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by Wycombe Royal » 12 Dec 2009 21:38

winchester_royal It's nice to see all the STG's patting each other on the back again.

Hardly.

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by sandman » 12 Dec 2009 21:51

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LoyalRoyal22 I actually think today was one of our better peformances, and it looked like they are starting to take on board what Rodgers wants, some of the football was really good, a fair reflection should have been 4-0, only a lack of finishing prevented that from happening. I also thought our defence was steady for most of the game, with Cisse doing a brilliant job infront of them. How can that peformance be worse than the Palace game, when a fair reflection of todays game should have been 4-0??? we lost 4-2 on tuesday, Dellor a Idiot. I back Rodgers untill end of next season(aslong as we not in league one, ovb) I still think we have a base of a squad to get into Mid table over the next couple of months, then push on next season, with a better style than we had with Coppell.

Also the amount of people, where i sit( North Stand) who get so impatient and keep shouting `GET IT UP FIELD` , was doing my head in, long passing is not nice on the eye, and not very affective, the best football was when the defence kept it untill there midfield commited themselves, and we just sliced them open, but most of the Reading fans dont understand the game properly.

You can tell we played well, when i cant name one player that had a bad game, i thought Cisse,Pearce,Matejovsky,Mcanuff were the better players, especially Jobi, he reminded me of Glenn Little.


Moses was the difference between a draw and loss on Tuesday. If you can't recognise that Short Cummings is Shit then God help you. Two of our better attacks on Tuesday were from long balls behind the full backs. We were shouting get it up the field as Pearce and Fed were passing it to each other at the back for about a minute. No one wants us to just play it long but if the team are going to pass it around at the back why can't they switch the play quicker and pass with a greater intensity?

We need to mix it up more and when we are doing the short passing it needs to be quicker as it was for the second goal against Wednesday. We're a young team why don't we use that energy.


Not just Moses, our keepers lack of ability to keep the ball out of his net and our inability to take chances at the other end


Actually that is the difference between 2-2 and 2-0

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by Terminal Boardom » 12 Dec 2009 21:57

Watching the game, this was no worse and no better than Tuesday night. Our defence is a car crash waiting to happen. In Ivar and Pearce we have two footballers who would be more mobile in wheelchairs. At least when Sonko was about we had some pace so that we were able to clear up after Ivar.

WTF does Mills have to do to get a game?
Why waste the money on O'Dea?
Why take off HRK who, along with the Sig, were behind everything positive about our performance
Where was MacAnuff for the first half?
What did Marek do?
Where was Cisse for the first half?
Apart from score, what did Rasiak do?
Our full backs were ok. Even Short Cummings.
Fed is shakier than a room full of Parkinson's sufferers

Oh, and Todgers. You are a joke. Pick up your coat on your way out and don't come back. If you really think that today was better than Tuesday then you really don't have a frigging clue. What would the score have been if we played Palace today? As I said at the top, defensively we are a disgrace.

As for the interminable go nowhere passing, when will we get to see any of our players move and look for space? No wonder the crowd get agitated when they see a total lack of movement and responsibility.


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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by sandman » 12 Dec 2009 22:01

+1

There was a point in the last few minutes where there was acres of space to run into and not one of them bothered and that sums this team up for me.

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by LoyalRoyal22 » 12 Dec 2009 22:08

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LoyalRoyal22 I actually think today was one of our better peformances, and it looked like they are starting to take on board what Rodgers wants, some of the football was really good, a fair reflection should have been 4-0, only a lack of finishing prevented that from happening. I also thought our defence was steady for most of the game, with Cisse doing a brilliant job infront of them. How can that peformance be worse than the Palace game, when a fair reflection of todays game should have been 4-0??? we lost 4-2 on tuesday, Dellor a Idiot. I back Rodgers untill end of next season(aslong as we not in league one, ovb) I still think we have a base of a squad to get into Mid table over the next couple of months, then push on next season, with a better style than we had with Coppell.

Also the amount of people, where i sit( North Stand) who get so impatient and keep shouting `GET IT UP FIELD` , was doing my head in, long passing is not nice on the eye, and not very affective, the best football was when the defence kept it untill there midfield commited themselves, and we just sliced them open, but most of the Reading fans dont understand the game properly.

You can tell we played well, when i cant name one player that had a bad game, i thought Cisse,Pearce,Matejovsky,Mcanuff were the better players, especially Jobi, he reminded me of Glenn Little.


Moses was the difference between a draw and loss on Tuesday. If you can't recognise that Short Cummings is Shit then God help you. Two of our better attacks on Tuesday were from long balls behind the full backs. We were shouting get it up the field as Pearce and Fed were passing it to each other at the back for about a minute. No one wants us to just play it long but if the team are going to pass it around at the back why can't they switch the play quicker and pass with a greater intensity?

We need to mix it up more and when we are doing the short passing it needs to be quicker as it was for the second goal against Wednesday. We're a young team why don't we use that energy.



I agree Cummings is shit, but he played ok today. Trust me i was at The Hawthorns when he got rinced by Jerome Thomas. Yeh but the best play today was when the defence switched passes between themselves, and waited for there midfield to commit, so we could pass to our midfielders feet.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by sandman » 12 Dec 2009 22:11

But they don't do it quickly enough.

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by RoyalBlue » 12 Dec 2009 22:17

Terminal Boardom What did Marek do?
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You mean apart from pick out Hal with a great pass in the lead up to the goal. Repeat that same move, involving Hal and Rasiak to almost get a second, and set up several other gilt edge chances?

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by Wycombe Royal » 12 Dec 2009 22:19

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Terminal Boardom What did Marek do?
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You mean apart from pick out Hal with a great pass in the lead up to the goal. Repeat that same move, involving Hal and Rasiak to almost get a second, and set up several other gilt edge chances?

I am in agreement with you. Marek had a good game today, and was vastly improved over his performance on Tuesday.

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by Row Z Royal » 12 Dec 2009 22:31

sandman +1

There was a point in the last few minutes where there was acres of space to run into and not one of them bothered and that sums this team up for me.


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by The Quiet Man » 12 Dec 2009 22:35

Depressing stuff today as Scunthorpe were the worst side that I've seen in this division. I'm getting more and more apathetic at the Rodgers regime, SJM won't change it this early and quite frankly we have a team that lacks leadership on the field and is poorly managed off it. Once again substitutions lead to the team spending time on the pitch working out the shape of the game. Once again we fail to put away average opposition and fall to a sucker punch.

If one looks to pick the positives out of the current situation is that there are certainly one, and possibly two teams worse than us in this division and hopefully there may be three. The downside of this is that this season looks a pile of cack with us spending our time in the bottom six capable of total inconsistency all the way through.

What has happened to our record (for a defender) centre back signing or our Champions League loanee centre half? What has happened with Karacan that he can't get a start?

My only limited enjoyment is listening to the press comments from our manager backed up Pravda like by our official website that all is rosy in the Rogers garden. Bullshit cricket with Brendan offers some fun. Today's little spat with Dellor was a close fought contest to see who is the biggest f*cktard which I felt that Rodgers won by a short head.

Roll on Ashton Gate and yokel fwits - can it get worse (it probably will).

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