Injury Crisis

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Victor Meldrew » 15 Apr 2014 13:02

Most clubs use the loan system for covering injuries, that is how the loan system came about.
Even the poorest clubs seem able to bring them or exceptionally broke clubs like Portsmouth build a team around them.
Presumably somebody is writing cheques and paying wages at our club so I don't get why we don't seem able to bring in loan players or have we been subject to an embargo and nobody has told us?

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Re: Injury Crisis

by melonhead » 15 Apr 2014 13:31

we dont have the money to pay our own wagebill, let alone add to it.....

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Wycombe Royal » 15 Apr 2014 13:39

melonhead we dont have the money to pay our own wagebill, let alone add to it.....

Neither did Portsmouth.....oh.....

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Royalclapper » 15 Apr 2014 13:57

The injury crisis would very quickly turn into a selection crisis if we made the play off final.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by RoyalBlue » 15 Apr 2014 15:49

Royalclapper The injury crisis would very quickly turn into a selection crisis if we made the play off final.


A selection crisis involving players carrying injuries who are a long way off being match fit. A pretty good way of ensuring we lose another final.

JM and AZ's lack of willingness to invest sensibly even in the loan market is very likely to cost them and us dear.

And why do the supporters who back the penny-pinching approach always cite Portsmouth as the rule, rather than the exceptional case that club actually is? An exceptional case that is still in existence as a club several years after those doom mongers said it was dead!


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Re: Injury Crisis

by Wycombe Royal » 15 Apr 2014 15:56

RoyalBlue
Royalclapper The injury crisis would very quickly turn into a selection crisis if we made the play off final.


A selection crisis involving players carrying injuries who are a long way off being match fit. A pretty good way of ensuring we lose another final.

JM and AZ's lack of willingness to invest sensibly even in the loan market is very likely to cost them and us dear.

And why do the supporters who back the penny-pinching approach always cite Portsmouth as the rule, rather than the exceptional case that club actually is? An exceptional case that is still in existence as a club several years after those doom mongers said it was dead!

If you haven't got any money then you haven't got any money. We have no right to expect anyone to dip into their pocket to fund a signing that the club cannot afford, especially when we can't afford the squad we do have.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by melonhead » 15 Apr 2014 16:03

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Royalclapper The injury crisis would very quickly turn into a selection crisis if we made the play off final.


A selection crisis involving players carrying injuries who are a long way off being match fit. A pretty good way of ensuring we lose another final.

JM and AZ's lack of willingness to invest sensibly even in the loan market is very likely to cost them and us dear.

And why do the supporters who back the penny-pinching approach always cite Portsmouth as the rule, rather than the exceptional case that club actually is? An exceptional case that is still in existence as a club several years after those doom mongers said it was dead!


theres no fukking money you moron!


JM hasnt got any- thats why he needed to sell
and i think antons disappearance and inability to put more money into the club has been covered here a fair bit...

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Re: Injury Crisis

by maffff » 16 Apr 2014 13:09

I'm sure there are loads of gaps that need to be filled in. But our season looks something like this. That's not including players that have limped off during games but been fit to play or be on the bench for the next match.



(please let me know what I'm omitting and I'll fill the gaps)

Never known a season quiet like it.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by PistolPete » 16 Apr 2014 13:19

seems to be a gap in your post...


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Re: Injury Crisis

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 17 Apr 2014 05:14

Surprised no comment on Adkins comments This week about the injuries at the club.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Tilehurstsouthbank » 17 Apr 2014 08:29

melonhead
RoyalBlue
Royalclapper The injury crisis would very quickly turn into a selection crisis if we made the play off final.


A selection crisis involving players carrying injuries who are a long way off being match fit. A pretty good way of ensuring we lose another final.

JM and AZ's lack of willingness to invest sensibly even in the loan market is very likely to cost them and us dear.

And why do the supporters who back the penny-pinching approach always cite Portsmouth as the rule, rather than the exceptional case that club actually is? An exceptional case that is still in existence as a club several years after those doom mongers said it was dead!


theres no fukking money you moron!



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Re: Injury Crisis

by KC Royal » 18 Apr 2014 10:30

Been unlucky with the injuries to Roberts, Leigertwood and Karacan, and a bit unfortunate with Williams, but then with him the club should have known what to expect given that he'd had a knee injury at the end of last season. But what is most concerning is that all our midfielders have had injuries, including Hector and Obita after moving into midfield recently... Other positions haven't been as badly affected, which makes me question what are the coaching staff doing with our midfielders to make them so injury prone? I think Guthrie has had the same injury (calf) twice now this year?

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Jimbo » 18 Apr 2014 11:19

floyd__streete
USA_Loyal_Royal it is fairly obvious with what adkins has had he has done brilliantly with all the injuries, lack of investment, and everything that is going on off field with AZ and trying to find a buyer.


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Its not like we have one of the biggest wage-bills in the division or anything is it?

Drenthe, Bridge, Williams crocked half of the season - these are players signed under the Adkins regime remember :!: Due dilligence wasn't really done on the first two was it :?:


Yes, obviously a large wage bill stops players getting injured.

Bridge played 37 games for Brighton last season. What sort of due dilligence are they supposed to do? A fortune teller?


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Re: Injury Crisis

by floyd__streete » 22 Apr 2014 13:10

Jimbo Yes, obviously a large wage bill stops players getting injured.


You misunderstand, my apologies for being far too vague for you. Given one of the largest wage bills in the division we should have ensured adequate cover. Not entirely brilliant management was it signing a 33 year old as our only recognised left back :!: Ironically the fella who has had to cover the position for 70% of the season has been one of the better performers for us, which only sums up what a cluster-f*ck it has been.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Extended-Phenotype » 22 Apr 2014 13:47

melonhead
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Royalclapper The injury crisis would very quickly turn into a selection crisis if we made the play off final.


A selection crisis involving players carrying injuries who are a long way off being match fit. A pretty good way of ensuring we lose another final.

JM and AZ's lack of willingness to invest sensibly even in the loan market is very likely to cost them and us dear.

And why do the supporters who back the penny-pinching approach always cite Portsmouth as the rule, rather than the exceptional case that club actually is? An exceptional case that is still in existence as a club several years after those doom mongers said it was dead!


theres no fukking money you moron!



I know it's a far out solution but maybe we could have borrowed some?

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Re: Injury Crisis

by melonhead » 22 Apr 2014 14:31

but the only owner we have left isnt able to/doesnt want to borrow any more money, he's having enough trouble trying to shift the club as it is.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by Extended-Phenotype » 22 Apr 2014 14:36

melonhead but the only owner we have left isnt able to/doesnt want to borrow any more money, he's having enough trouble trying to shift the club as it is.


:?:

People are bemoaning our owner for not bringing in loans to help ease the injury crisis and keep us on track for promotion. Your defence is that he doesn't want to.

I'm not sure you have quite got the hang of this.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by andrew1957 » 22 Apr 2014 14:44

One thing I do think is that not re-signing Baird from Feb until the end of the season must go down as one of the most short sighted decisions ever in the history of football.

I doubt he would have been on more than £10K a week and so that would be about 200K and CM has been our big problem issue all season (mainly due to injuries). There might be no money but not scraping together 200K could cost 90M if we fail to go up.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by PistolPete » 22 Apr 2014 15:01

andrew1957 One thing I do think is that not re-signing Baird from Feb until the end of the season must go down as one of the most short sighted decisions ever in the history of football.

I doubt he would have been on more than £10K a week and so that would be about 200K and CM has been our big problem issue all season (mainly due to injuries). There might be no money but not scraping together 200K could cost 90M if we fail to go up.


Yep, because it's that simple.

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Re: Injury Crisis

by glass half full » 22 Apr 2014 15:33

maffff I'm sure there are loads of gaps that need to be filled in. But our season looks something like this. That's not including players that have limped off during games but been fit to play or be on the bench for the next match.



(please let me know what I'm omitting and I'll fill the gaps)

Never known a season quiet like it.




Thanks very much for this illustration. It is very helpful.

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