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Re: Obita new contract

by Old Man Andrews » 21 Jun 2020 19:18

Would get rid personally. Must be on a fair wage and there is a significant chance he might get crocked again.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Millsy » 21 Jun 2020 19:32

I would normally agree, as our only left back at the club other than Richards but remember he is not a natural left back at all and was shoehorned into that position due to shortage. And it really shows. He's been at fault for goals this season, and that's not to mention injuries.

I'd like him to stay of course, but with his injury record and makeshift defending if he is on massive wages I think with the financial troubles we're in its sadly wise to let him go.

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Re: Obita new contract

by SouthDownsRoyal » 21 Jun 2020 23:00

I think maybe let him go. We can buy another left back.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Dr_Hfuhruhurr » 22 Jun 2020 08:59

I think Obita going to another club might be good for both of us.
For whatever reason, he needs to restart his career and for the right club, he is going to be a great buy if they can keep him healthy.
I rate the guy, but we need to trim the squad.
If we genuinely think we are going to get 35+ games out of him next season then, yes, a contract is in order. If not, for whatever reason, we should look to trade.
I rate him highly, by the way, but he's not a certain starter for us.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Pepe the Horseman » 22 Jun 2020 09:09

In terms of goals and assists, he's had his best ever season for us, having played fewer games. Give him a year with an option for extension if he can stay fit.


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Re: Obita new contract

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jun 2020 09:24

Dr_Hfuhruhurr I think Obita going to another club might be good for both of us.
For whatever reason, he needs to restart his career and for the right club, he is going to be a great buy if they can keep him healthy.
I rate the guy, but we need to trim the squad.
If we genuinely think we are going to get 35+ games out of him next season then, yes, a contract is in order. If not, for whatever reason, we should look to trade.
I rate him highly, by the way, but he's not a certain starter for us.

Letting him go isn't trimming the squad. We can't go into next season with 2 full backs, Richards and Yiadom aren't enough.

We need to replace two of him Gunter and Blackett if they all go.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Old Man Andrews » 22 Jun 2020 09:26

But you can replace them with younger guys from lower down the leagues on much less per week. Obviously not ideal but it cut costs on the wages which is what we need right now.

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Re: Obita new contract

by NewCorkSeth » 22 Jun 2020 09:35

Pepe the Horseman In terms of goals and assists, he's had his best ever season for us, having played fewer games. Give him a year with an option for extension if he can stay fit.

I'm struggling to see why this isn't a great option for the club and, not to mention, for Obita himself.

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Re: Obita new contract

by NewCorkSeth » 22 Jun 2020 09:38

Old Man Andrews But you can replace them with younger guys from lower down the leagues on much less per week. Obviously not ideal but it cut costs on the wages which is what we need right now.

I dunno. Then it dictates our market strategy. We know right now we need 4 fullbacks, only 2 at the club are currently not about to run out their contracts. That means buying 2 new fullbacks unless you think Araruna will be used as a RB.

Given the finances signing Obita, who also covers left wing, on a 1 year deal means we have more freedom in the transfer window.


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Re: Obita new contract

by Westwood52 » 22 Jun 2020 09:53

I have never been a huge fan of Obita;however I suspect he is not one of the best paid players in the squad.He may not be one of the most physical LB s in the division;but do feel he can make a significant contribution .He is one of the best crosses of the ball and is genuinely left footed.I don’t see Richards improving that much and don’t think this is his level.I would keep Obita.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jun 2020 09:54

Old Man Andrews But you can replace them with younger guys from lower down the leagues on much less per week. Obviously not ideal but it cut costs on the wages which is what we need right now.

Maybe, I'd be happier with that for Gunter, because Yiadom is quality and mostly fit. But Richards has yet to really justify a prolonged place in the side, so I think we need more than a cheap punt to cover him.

No one is suggesting we just offer Obita the same contract. It has to be on manageable terms.

If we want to trim the squad the areas to look at are flaky forward, attacking midfield, CB and goalkeeper IMO.

Walker isn't worth his place. We could cope with Southwood / Andresson.

We could cope without one of Moore, Morrison, McIntyre, Miazga with Osho and Odimayo if we really need to.

Olise, Ejaria, Swift, Adam, Pele, Rino plus now Holsgrove it seems, is pushing the limits for three positions in midfield.

Then you've got Boye, Masika, Loader, Aluko, Baldock, Puscas, Meite and Joao for three positions.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Old Man Andrews » 22 Jun 2020 10:00

Oh I think Moore is gone, we have to cash in on him before his value drops further. Huge amount off the wage bill too. Puscas and Swift are two others I expect to see leave this summer. We are too top heavy imo and could cash in/recoup whatever we paid. Swift we obviously don't want to lose but I think there will be a few Prem clubs that will come in for him.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Elm Park Kid » 22 Jun 2020 10:17

If money was less of an issue then, yes, of course you'd want to have Obita in the squad than not.

But we have to make a lot of very tough decisions if we want to recover from the embarrassment that was our last set of company accounts. It might be the case that Obita has a very good agent who is pushing for a £20k+ salary.

Income-wise, the club is now a mid-table championship team. We've been spending ridiculously more than our income recently and all we've done is just about avoid relegation. Maybe it's time to take another approach; spend less, concentrate more on the building a team with the players we can afford to keep and accept our position for a couple of seasons.


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Re: Obita new contract

by Hound » 22 Jun 2020 10:29

yeah its really a case of the finances for me. I like Obita and would happily have him around, and I'd hope he'd like to stay - but he isn't worth what he was 3 years ago.

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Re: Obita new contract

by URZZZZ » 22 Jun 2020 11:57

Would be fine as a backup LB next season but shouldn’t be playing any further forward, doesn’t offer enough as a midfielder

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Re: Obita new contract

by Hound » 22 Jun 2020 12:08

URZZZZ Would be fine as a backup LB next season but shouldn’t be playing any further forward, doesn’t offer enough as a midfielder


basically Bowen has him there to just fire in crosses and add solidity to that left side. I'm ok with that to an extent but it seems a system to suit Joao who is obvs crocked. Puscas scored a lot of goals from crosses on the obligatory YouTube before he signed, but can't think of too many here

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Re: Obita new contract

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jun 2020 12:10

I think it's safe to say offering him a contract has to be on affordable terms.

If he rejects that and takes his chances fair enough. But we should be offering unless we already know that there's a huge difference between what we'd offer and what he'd accept.

But is he really going to get a better deal elsewhere? Especially given any transfer is a risk for him.

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Re: Obita new contract

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jun 2020 12:11

URZZZZ Would be fine as a backup LB next season but shouldn’t be playing any further forward, doesn’t offer enough as a midfielder

2 goals and 2 assists in 12 starts, some of which at LB. Started as a winger. Good corners. :|

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Re: Obita new contract

by Hound » 22 Jun 2020 12:13

Snowflake Royal I think it's safe to say offering him a contract has to be on affordable terms.

If he rejects that and takes his chances fair enough. But we should be offering unless we already know that there's a huge difference between what we'd offer and what he'd accept.

But is he really going to get a better deal elsewhere? Especially given any transfer is a risk for him.


yeah, which was the point i made earlier in the thread. Can't see many offering him a decent deal in post Covid football. Thousands will be ooc in line with massive cost savings across the board, and he is a gamble with his injury

A pay as you play type deal might be the way to go for both parties really

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Re: Obita new contract

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jun 2020 12:19

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Snowflake Royal I think it's safe to say offering him a contract has to be on affordable terms.

If he rejects that and takes his chances fair enough. But we should be offering unless we already know that there's a huge difference between what we'd offer and what he'd accept.

But is he really going to get a better deal elsewhere? Especially given any transfer is a risk for him.


yeah, which was the point i made earlier in the thread. Can't see many offering him a decent deal in post Covid football. Thousands will be ooc in line with massive cost savings across the board, and he is a gamble with his injury

A pay as you play type deal might be the way to go for both parties really



Yeah, if you think about it he can combine cover at fullback and left wing.

So we'd only need one specialist winger on the left between him, Ejaria/Olise covering from their primary roles.

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