Division one things to forward to……..

[NathStPaul]

It is better to be right that win friends.

Not sure you have mastered either tbh.

[Orion1871]

It is better to be right that win friends.

Not sure you have mastered either tbh.

Ooh, you bitch

[NathStPaul]

It is better to be right that win friends.

Not sure you have mastered either tbh.

Ooh you bitch

[URZZZZ]

If we stay up, I genuinely only think Ince and Carroll (and maybe Holmes) are really champ level. Yiadom and Azeez maybe hold their own if the other players in the side are better than what we have now

So to really compete we need a whole new team anyway

Have been saying this all season when so many seemed to think that the players were, as some posted, "easily good enough" and it was all down to the manager that we haven't done very well.

Good to hear somebody else express a sensible assessment as even with no points deduction we would still be very close to the relegation places.

And yet a Millwall team with Scott Malone in defence, Billy Mitchell in midfield and Tom Bradshaw up front are outside the top 6 on goal difference? Or a Sunderland team littered with youth and inexperience (having only been promoted via the playoffs last season and spending very little money in the summer) are in the top 6?

A lot of the talk about individual players is immaterial really. Burnley aside, there’s very little to distinguish teams in the Championship. Hence why there’s a growing trend of teams spending stupid money in the Prem after promotion

Lot of it is down to belief and attitude. In the last few months, we’ve had zero belief under Ince to go on and win games and that’s why (6 point deduction aside) we’ve gone from a team top of the table in October to an imminent relegation (coincidentally Ince doing the exact same pattern in his last job btw - coincidence or not?). Momentum is key (hence our good start in a way) and Ince did nothing to halt the winless streak other than swapping a few CB’s around. Not good enough

McDermott’s squad in 2012 was far from the best in the league. Look at West Ham and Southampton’s squad in comparison. Why do you think we won the league that year?

[Hound]

If we stay up, I genuinely only think Ince and Carroll (and maybe Holmes) are really champ level. Yiadom and Azeez maybe hold their own if the other players in the side are better than what we have now

So to really compete we need a whole new team anyway

Have been saying this all season when so many seemed to think that the players were, as some posted, "easily good enough" and it was all down to the manager that we haven't done very well.

Good to hear somebody else express a sensible assessment as even with no points deduction we would still be very close to the relegation places.

And yet a Millwall team with Scott Malone in defence, Billy Mitchell in midfield and Tom Bradshaw up front are outside the top 6 on goal difference? Or a Sunderland team littered with youth and inexperience (having only been promoted via the playoffs last season and spending very little money in the summer) are in the top 6?

A lot of the talk about individual players is immaterial really. Burnley aside, there’s very little to distinguish teams in the Championship. Hence why there’s a growing trend of teams spending stupid money in the Prem after promotion

Lot of it is down to belief and attitude. In the last few months, we’ve had zero belief under Ince to go on and win games and that’s why (6 point deduction aside) we’ve gone from a team top of the table in October to an imminent relegation (coincidentally Ince doing the exact same pattern in his last job btw - coincidence or not?). Momentum is key (hence our good start in a way) and Ince did nothing to halt the winless streak other than swapping a few CB’s around. Not good enough

McDermott’s squad in 2012 was far from the best in the league. Look at West Ham and Southampton’s squad in comparison. Why do you think we won the league that year?

We were playing poorly when winning games tbf. A lot of those we scored with one of our only chances and hung on. It was never convincing

Scott Malone and Bradshaw are perfectly decent players. And surrounded by better ones than what we have. Sunderland likewise - they have some real quality - Diallo, Clarke , Gelhardt - admittedly all young and relatively inexperienced but proper prem experience - but not just pulled out of the u23 with no men’s experience like our lot

I don’t know much about the likes of Cirkin and Neil but they are more than likely just better than our equivalents

Agree confidence and coaching come into it, but it’s certainly not all Ince’s fault. I don’t think we playing massively differently now tbh. Bit more energy granted

Ince did ‘try stuff’. Kept swapping the forwards, did swap the LB from time to time, occasionally swapped formations. Don’t think he was helped by constant injuries either.

[Snowflake Royal]

The point was, we won't be restricted to paying wages that wealthy National League clubs are paying/bettering. We'd actually be able to double, triple or possibly even quadruple what we've offered to compete with Championship clubs next season, if we stay there.

Absolute horseshit.

How to win friends and influence people by Ian Royal.

Sometimes, when people have been ignoring your numerous polite responses, there's a time for a sledgehammer.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Great. Wrexham have the squareroot of oxf*rd all todo with anything

The point was, we won't be restricted to paying wages that wealthy National League clubs are paying/bettering. We'd actually be able to double, triple or possibly even quadruple what we've offered to compete with Championship clubs next season, if we stay there.

Given we will have to agree a budget with the EFL next year to ensure we stay in line with FFP, if we stay up - I very much doubt we will be offering mega bucks next year. If there is a specific individual who is considered key to survival we may well be able to offer substantially more than today but we shouldn't and I hope won't suddenly revert to type and throw money at the problem - else we will be back to the exact same place we are now in 2 or 3 years time but more in debt and likely looking at bigger points deductions.

I'm not suggesting we do what we've done previously, but we should also be more than capable of offering at least double what we've offered the players this season as well, which is far from unreasonable at this level.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Great. Wrexham have the squareroot of oxf*rd all todo with anything

The point was, we won't be restricted to paying wages that wealthy National League clubs are paying/bettering. We'd actually be able to double, triple or possibly even quadruple what we've offered to compete with Championship clubs next season, if we stay there.

Absolute horseshit.

Whatever you say, but I won't be taking your word for it that's for sure.

[URZZZZ]

Have been saying this all season when so many seemed to think that the players were, as some posted, "easily good enough" and it was all down to the manager that we haven't done very well.

Good to hear somebody else express a sensible assessment as even with no points deduction we would still be very close to the relegation places.

And yet a Millwall team with Scott Malone in defence, Billy Mitchell in midfield and Tom Bradshaw up front are outside the top 6 on goal difference? Or a Sunderland team littered with youth and inexperience (having only been promoted via the playoffs last season and spending very little money in the summer) are in the top 6?

A lot of the talk about individual players is immaterial really. Burnley aside, there’s very little to distinguish teams in the Championship. Hence why there’s a growing trend of teams spending stupid money in the Prem after promotion

Lot of it is down to belief and attitude. In the last few months, we’ve had zero belief under Ince to go on and win games and that’s why (6 point deduction aside) we’ve gone from a team top of the table in October to an imminent relegation (coincidentally Ince doing the exact same pattern in his last job btw - coincidence or not?). Momentum is key (hence our good start in a way) and Ince did nothing to halt the winless streak other than swapping a few CB’s around. Not good enough

McDermott’s squad in 2012 was far from the best in the league. Look at West Ham and Southampton’s squad in comparison. Why do you think we won the league that year?

We were playing poorly when winning games tbf. A lot of those we scored with one of our only chances and hung on. It was never convincing

Scott Malone and Bradshaw are perfectly decent players. And surrounded by better ones than what we have. Sunderland likewise - they have some real quality - Diallo, Clarke , Gelhardt - admittedly all young and relatively inexperienced but proper prem experience - but not just pulled out of the u23 with no men’s experience like our lot

I don’t know much about the likes of Cirkin and Neil but they are more than likely just better than our equivalents

Agree confidence and coaching come into it, but it’s certainly not all Ince’s fault. I don’t think we playing massively differently now tbh. Bit more energy granted

Ince did ‘try stuff’. Kept swapping the forwards, did swap the LB from time to time, occasionally swapped formations. Don’t think he was helped by constant injuries either.

That’s part of the point though isn’t it? We won because we had the belief that we could win. That’s what positive form and momentum does to you. We were tough to break down and you were confident enough we could win once we got the first goal. It’s true that we struggled to get back into games after conceding the first goal but at least we were able to grind out wins (winning tough games 1-0, something we couldn’t do for years)

That belief seemed to have evaporated post October. Too many of us believed Ince’s propaganda that the refs/EFL etc etc were against us deflecting the attention away from his sub standard tactics and approach to games until it became too late

For the record, I don’t think you’ll find m(any) have solely blamed Ince for the current predicament. We’ve been poorly run/managed for years. It seems to be a forever cycle of managers starting well and having that initial bounce before ultimately failing.

Each to their own, and obviously there’s always some form of confirmation bias when it comes to things like this but I’ve seen big improvements from the likes of Joao, Hendrick, Yiadom and Sarr since Hunt has come in. Options on the ball and at least some form of pattern on ball retention. Still a long way off mind but there are signs. The hard thing is maintaining those signs over the duration (something none of our managers have been able to do recently)

[South Coast Royal]

And yet a Millwall team with Scott Malone in defence, Billy Mitchell in midfield and Tom Bradshaw up front are outside the top 6 on goal difference? Or a Sunderland team littered with youth and inexperience (having only been promoted via the playoffs last season and spending very little money in the summer) are in the top 6?

A lot of the talk about individual players is immaterial really. Burnley aside, there’s very little to distinguish teams in the Championship. Hence why there’s a growing trend of teams spending stupid money in the Prem after promotion

Lot of it is down to belief and attitude. In the last few months, we’ve had zero belief under Ince to go on and win games and that’s why (6 point deduction aside) we’ve gone from a team top of the table in October to an imminent relegation (coincidentally Ince doing the exact same pattern in his last job btw - coincidence or not?). Momentum is key (hence our good start in a way) and Ince did nothing to halt the winless streak other than swapping a few CB’s around. Not good enough

McDermott’s squad in 2012 was far from the best in the league. Look at West Ham and Southampton’s squad in comparison. Why do you think we won the league that year?

We were playing poorly when winning games tbf. A lot of those we scored with one of our only chances and hung on. It was never convincing

Scott Malone and Bradshaw are perfectly decent players. And surrounded by better ones than what we have. Sunderland likewise - they have some real quality - Diallo, Clarke , Gelhardt - admittedly all young and relatively inexperienced but proper prem experience - but not just pulled out of the u23 with no men’s experience like our lot

I don’t know much about the likes of Cirkin and Neil but they are more than likely just better than our equivalents

Agree confidence and coaching come into it, but it’s certainly not all Ince’s fault. I don’t think we playing massively differently now tbh. Bit more energy granted

Ince did ‘try stuff’. Kept swapping the forwards, did swap the LB from time to time, occasionally swapped formations. Don’t think he was helped by constant injuries either.

That’s part of the point though isn’t it? We won because we had the belief that we could win. That’s what positive form and momentum does to you. We were tough to break down and you were confident enough we could win once we got the first goal. It’s true that we struggled to get back into games after conceding the first goal but at least we were able to grind out wins (winning tough games 1-0, something we couldn’t do for years)

That belief seemed to have evaporated post October. Too many of us believed Ince’s propaganda that the refs/EFL etc etc were against us deflecting the attention away from his sub standard tactics and approach to games until it became too late

For the record, I don’t think you’ll find m(any) have solely blamed Ince for the current predicament. We’ve been poorly run/managed for years. It seems to be a forever cycle of managers starting well and having that initial bounce before ultimately failing.

Each to their own, and obviously there’s always some form of confirmation bias when it comes to things like this but I’ve seen big improvements from the likes of Joao, Hendrick, Yiadom and Sarr since Hunt has come in. Options on the ball and at least some form of pattern on ball retention. Still a long way off mind but there are signs. The hard thing is maintaining those signs over the duration (something none of our managers have been able to do recently)

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

We were playing poorly when winning games tbf. A lot of those we scored with one of our only chances and hung on. It was never convincing

Scott Malone and Bradshaw are perfectly decent players. And surrounded by better ones than what we have. Sunderland likewise - they have some real quality - Diallo, Clarke , Gelhardt - admittedly all young and relatively inexperienced but proper prem experience - but not just pulled out of the u23 with no men’s experience like our lot

I don’t know much about the likes of Cirkin and Neil but they are more than likely just better than our equivalents

Agree confidence and coaching come into it, but it’s certainly not all Ince’s fault. I don’t think we playing massively differently now tbh. Bit more energy granted

Ince did ‘try stuff’. Kept swapping the forwards, did swap the LB from time to time, occasionally swapped formations. Don’t think he was helped by constant injuries either.

That’s part of the point though isn’t it? We won because we had the belief that we could win. That’s what positive form and momentum does to you. We were tough to break down and you were confident enough we could win once we got the first goal. It’s true that we struggled to get back into games after conceding the first goal but at least we were able to grind out wins (winning tough games 1-0, something we couldn’t do for years)

That belief seemed to have evaporated post October. Too many of us believed Ince’s propaganda that the refs/EFL etc etc were against us deflecting the attention away from his sub standard tactics and approach to games until it became too late

For the record, I don’t think you’ll find m(any) have solely blamed Ince for the current predicament. We’ve been poorly run/managed for years. It seems to be a forever cycle of managers starting well and having that initial bounce before ultimately failing.

Each to their own, and obviously there’s always some form of confirmation bias when it comes to things like this but I’ve seen big improvements from the likes of Joao, Hendrick, Yiadom and Sarr since Hunt has come in. Options on the ball and at least some form of pattern on ball retention. Still a long way off mind but there are signs. The hard thing is maintaining those signs over the duration (something none of our managers have been able to do recently)

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

I think it was a big criticism of Ince that we played the way that we did. But yes, I have to agree, I think this is just the way the players are most suited to. Obviously a few tweaks since Hunt's been in, but a lot of principles are similar. We don't have that much of the ball and still don't tend to play on the front foot too much, I think that's just the way the players are best playing in. Of course, the players being most suited to a system doesn't always mean they are good enough overall either.

Joao and Meite aside, the rest of our players operate at mid-table or lower in the Championship and I could only really see clubs being interested in Holmes and Ince out of the lot. Not sure who else would be worthwhile for other clubs? McIntyre maybe as he could still improve and be part of a squad towards the bottom end of the table. Carroll but I can't see anyone paying a fee for him due to his age.

[Orion1871]

We were playing poorly when winning games tbf. A lot of those we scored with one of our only chances and hung on. It was never convincing

Scott Malone and Bradshaw are perfectly decent players. And surrounded by better ones than what we have. Sunderland likewise - they have some real quality - Diallo, Clarke , Gelhardt - admittedly all young and relatively inexperienced but proper prem experience - but not just pulled out of the u23 with no men’s experience like our lot

I don’t know much about the likes of Cirkin and Neil but they are more than likely just better than our equivalents

Agree confidence and coaching come into it, but it’s certainly not all Ince’s fault. I don’t think we playing massively differently now tbh. Bit more energy granted

Ince did ‘try stuff’. Kept swapping the forwards, did swap the LB from time to time, occasionally swapped formations. Don’t think he was helped by constant injuries either.

That’s part of the point though isn’t it? We won because we had the belief that we could win. That’s what positive form and momentum does to you. We were tough to break down and you were confident enough we could win once we got the first goal. It’s true that we struggled to get back into games after conceding the first goal but at least we were able to grind out wins (winning tough games 1-0, something we couldn’t do for years)

That belief seemed to have evaporated post October. Too many of us believed Ince’s propaganda that the refs/EFL etc etc were against us deflecting the attention away from his sub standard tactics and approach to games until it became too late

For the record, I don’t think you’ll find m(any) have solely blamed Ince for the current predicament. We’ve been poorly run/managed for years. It seems to be a forever cycle of managers starting well and having that initial bounce before ultimately failing.

Each to their own, and obviously there’s always some form of confirmation bias when it comes to things like this but I’ve seen big improvements from the likes of Joao, Hendrick, Yiadom and Sarr since Hunt has come in. Options on the ball and at least some form of pattern on ball retention. Still a long way off mind but there are signs. The hard thing is maintaining those signs over the duration (something none of our managers have been able to do recently)

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

You get what you pay for. Or in our case, don't pay for.

[tmesis]

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

All that's really changed under Hunt is a higher workrate. We still look like we need a route map and a written invitation to get anywhere near the opposition goal.

I did hear a rumour before the Birmingham game that Tom Ince was being 'a little too vocal' in his attempts to encourage teammates to play better, and it had soured the mood for a player or two, and Paul Ince was taking his side, but I can't recall who the woman behind me in the bus queue said she heard this from.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

All that's really changed under Hunt is a higher workrate. We still look like we need a route map and a written invitation to get anywhere near the opposition goal.

I did hear a rumour before the Birmingham game that Tom Ince was being 'a little too vocal' in his attempts to encourage teammates to play better, and it had soured the mood for a player or two, and Paul Ince was taking his side, but I can't recall who the woman behind me in the bus queue said she heard this from.

Joao's been much more involved and deeper linking up play well.

I think we'd see a much better style of play against a team in the bottom half than Ince was giving us.

[Hound]

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

All that's really changed under Hunt is a higher workrate. We still look like we need a route map and a written invitation to get anywhere near the opposition goal.

I did hear a rumour before the Birmingham game that Tom Ince was being 'a little too vocal' in his attempts to encourage teammates to play better, and it had soured the mood for a player or two, and Paul Ince was taking his side, but I can't recall who the woman behind me in the bus queue said she heard this from.

Joao's been much more involved and deeper linking up play well.

I think we'd see a much better style of play against a team in the bottom half than Ince was giving us.

Find out Saturday I suppose

It is marginally different. We don’t play as direct. More energy - but that may because younger kids playing. Midfield is still crap. Defence still looks like conceding. Joao has had a good couple of games as has Lumley

[Royal_jimmy]

That’s part of the point though isn’t it? We won because we had the belief that we could win. That’s what positive form and momentum does to you. We were tough to break down and you were confident enough we could win once we got the first goal. It’s true that we struggled to get back into games after conceding the first goal but at least we were able to grind out wins (winning tough games 1-0, something we couldn’t do for years)

That belief seemed to have evaporated post October. Too many of us believed Ince’s propaganda that the refs/EFL etc etc were against us deflecting the attention away from his sub standard tactics and approach to games until it became too late

For the record, I don’t think you’ll find m(any) have solely blamed Ince for the current predicament. We’ve been poorly run/managed for years. It seems to be a forever cycle of managers starting well and having that initial bounce before ultimately failing.

Each to their own, and obviously there’s always some form of confirmation bias when it comes to things like this but I’ve seen big improvements from the likes of Joao, Hendrick, Yiadom and Sarr since Hunt has come in. Options on the ball and at least some form of pattern on ball retention. Still a long way off mind but there are signs. The hard thing is maintaining those signs over the duration (something none of our managers have been able to do recently)

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

I think it was a big criticism of Ince that we played the way that we did. But yes, I have to agree, I think this is just the way the players are most suited to. Obviously a few tweaks since Hunt's been in, but a lot of principles are similar. We don't have that much of the ball and still don't tend to play on the front foot too much, I think that's just the way the players are best playing in. Of course, the players being most suited to a system doesn't always mean they are good enough overall either.

Joao and Meite aside, the rest of our players operate at mid-table or lower in the Championship and I could only really see clubs being interested in Holmes and Ince out of the lot. Not sure who else would be worthwhile for other clubs? McIntyre maybe as he could still improve and be part of a squad towards the bottom end of the table. Carroll but I can't see anyone paying a fee for him due to his age.

To be honest I agree with this. Although a better manager may have ground out another win or 2, the truth is most of the squad were here last season that struggled. Most of our team is league one quality, even the academy boys like McIntyre. Nesta Guinness-Walker is young with potential but looks light weight. Azeez is the same. Lumley is meh, he's a solid keeper but nothing special. Yiadom is league one standard, has regressed since he's got older, Hendrick has been in decline for years, Fornah hadn't played at this level before. Camara is just breaking into the team and looks lovely but raw, Long is passed it and can't score but does add something to the side. Carroll likewise. Sarr is a liability and looks out of his depth too. A good reason Huddersfield got rid of him.

João and Meite are championship players but are off the boil, Ince and Holmes are too but that's about it.

If we stay up I hope we can keep João and Meite (on slightly lower wages) and have a full reset. Sell Puscas, offload Ejaria, release Moore and accept a £3m bid for Holmes if one comes in.

[Ascotexgunner]

I think sometimes we see what we want to see-I haven't seen this ball retention that you speak about (e.g. 25% possession at home v Burnley, not much more v Luton or Coventry).
Clearly it hasn't been just Ince or just the players that haven't been up to scratch but I'm with Hound in believing that most of our current squad just aren't that good.

I think it was a big criticism of Ince that we played the way that we did. But yes, I have to agree, I think this is just the way the players are most suited to. Obviously a few tweaks since Hunt's been in, but a lot of principles are similar. We don't have that much of the ball and still don't tend to play on the front foot too much, I think that's just the way the players are best playing in. Of course, the players being most suited to a system doesn't always mean they are good enough overall either.

Joao and Meite aside, the rest of our players operate at mid-table or lower in the Championship and I could only really see clubs being interested in Holmes and Ince out of the lot. Not sure who else would be worthwhile for other clubs? McIntyre maybe as he could still improve and be part of a squad towards the bottom end of the table. Carroll but I can't see anyone paying a fee for him due to his age.

To be honest I agree with this. Although a better manager may have ground out another win or 2, the truth is most of the squad were here last season that struggled. Most of our team is league one quality, even the academy boys like McIntyre. Nesta Guinness-Walker is young with potential but looks light weight. Azeez is the same. Lumley is meh, he's a solid keeper but nothing special. Yiadom is league one standard, has regressed since he's got older, Hendrick has been in decline for years, Fornah hadn't played at this level before. Camara is just breaking into the team and looks lovely but raw, Long is passed it and can't score but does add something to the side. Carroll likewise. Sarr is a liability and looks out of his depth too. A good reason Huddersfield got rid of him.

João and Meite are championship players but are off the boil, Ince and Holmes are too but that's about it.

If we stay up I hope we can keep João and Meite (on slightly lower wages) and have a full reset. Sell Puscas, offload Ejaria, release Moore and accept a £3m bid for Holmes if one comes in.

I thought Puscas was out of contract at the end of the season. I honestly would still like to think if we can't sell him, to try him at League 1 level. Under a proper manager. I still struggle to believe he is as bad as we've seen, there have been glimpses, and how much will a new striker cost? With the front men either retiring or leaving we would have to invest heavily otherwise. I'd like to think there are more Wigan and Cardiff performances if we feed him the ball properly.

[Snowflake Royal]

All that's really changed under Hunt is a higher workrate. We still look like we need a route map and a written invitation to get anywhere near the opposition goal.

I did hear a rumour before the Birmingham game that Tom Ince was being 'a little too vocal' in his attempts to encourage teammates to play better, and it had soured the mood for a player or two, and Paul Ince was taking his side, but I can't recall who the woman behind me in the bus queue said she heard this from.

Joao's been much more involved and deeper linking up play well.

I think we'd see a much better style of play against a team in the bottom half than Ince was giving us.

Find out Saturday I suppose

It is marginally different. We don’t play as direct. More energy - but that may because younger kids playing. Midfield is still crap. Defence still looks like conceding. Joao has had a good couple of games as has Lumley

Clean sheet against Burnley is a pretty good achievement fot a team that always looks like conceding.

Were leaking goals galore for a while, but down.to 1 a game for Hunt.

It's shit, but its up

Too little too late.

[Webster750]

Can imagine there being interest in Lumley from lower end Championship sides so would hope we're able to sign Southwood/Boyce-Clarke on longer term deals - admittedly doubtful given recent rumours RE Southwood and the moves Boyce-Clarke had been linked with in past.

Also hoping we can retain Guinness-Walker, Tetek and Mbengue. Haven't kept up with our U21's and subsequent loan moves as much but recall Dorsett receiving praise so again hoping we can do something there. Clarke looked decent last season, too, albeit brief appearances.

Besides that we're probably looking at a good 5+ League One capable signings. Ouch.

[Royal_jimmy]

Can imagine there being interest in Lumley from lower end Championship sides so would hope we're able to sign Southwood/Boyce-Clarke on longer term deals - admittedly doubtful given recent rumours RE Southwood and the moves Boyce-Clarke had been linked with in past.

Also hoping we can retain Guinness-Walker, Tetek and Mbengue. Haven't kept up with our U21's and subsequent loan moves as much but recall Dorsett receiving praise so again hoping we can do something there. Clarke looked decent last season, too, albeit brief appearances.

Besides that we're probably looking at a good 5+ League One capable signings. Ouch.

Not sure I'd want Southwood back. Think I'd rather have Bouzanis as our number 1 keeper in league one. I'd like to see us start blooding CBC in and giving him cup appearances and having him on the bench, or he'll eventually leave us. I think CBC will play at a higher level than Southwood will do.