Rodgers is still the right man

[sandman]

Its hook, line and sinker m8.

I know, but it is nice of you to give W_R a little help filling in the gap.

[Southbank Old Boy]

I didn't say he was fully fit I said he was fit enough to play it was you who speculated about the amount of time he could play. Rodgers was asked during the week if Cummings was unhappy about being dropped and hey presto he's in the team.Also, O'Dea has played left back before and would have been an option when Stretch ran out of gas.

When was the last time O'Dea played left back?

I have heard he has some personal issues and thats why he has gone off the scene, and although he could have been an option it sounds as though he is being ruled out

As for Stretch, it isnt just a case of not being able to last the 90 mins, its being so short of sharpness and fitness that he gets ripped apart and is a weak link

[Ian Royal]

I didn't say he was fully fit I said he was fit enough to play it was you who speculated about the amount of time he could play. Rodgers was asked during the week if Cummings was unhappy about being dropped and hey presto he's in the team.Also, O'Dea has played left back before and would have been an option when Stretch ran out of gas.

When was the last time O'Dea played left back?

I have heard he has some personal issues and thats why he has gone off the scene, and although he could have been an option it sounds as though he is being ruled out

As for Stretch, it isnt just a case of not being able to last the 90 mins, its being so short of sharpness and fitness that he gets ripped apart and is a weak link

O'Dea played left back in the last game he played - QPR iirc.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Exactly

How did he do?

[Ian Royal]

Exactly

How did he do?

Not too badly for the 45 minutes he played there. Ivar was shocking in central defence though. Gunnar, Mills and O'Dea had no chance as part of a back three.

[Northern Git]

Bullshit.
We can afford it if we want to. We are not in debt, we are financially viable.

Er... yes we are in debt, and no we are not financially viable.

We are in debt to the owner. And I really don't understand why you think we aren't financially viable.........

A debt is a debt no matter who its to. Its on the balance sheet as out standing debt.

Financially viable? Decreasing revenue (£10,000,000 down in next financial year from parachute payments alone) through plummeting gate reciepts, hospitality, TV money, merchandise etc. Dwindling customer base. All major saleable assests gone. Major shareholder not financially supportive. Banks unwilling to run on overdrafts. Never made a profit in the Championship. Allied business (hotel) with declining revenue because of recession.

Thats why i dont think we are financially viable.

[adamh4608]

that's why we need to invest to stay up

[Franchise FC]

that's why we need to invest to stay up

That is the most depressing statement I've read in months.

Simply because it could have been made at any time during 2007/08.

[seahawk10]

Hoping I did not post in this thread...

[readingbedding]

Rodgers is in for the long haul. Forget any talk of him leaving. I spoke this week to someone close to the very heart of the club
and activities behind the
scenes. Brief was to slash the wage bill and by doing so let go of approx eighty percent of prem team. It was a start again process as we all know and Rodgers would only of gone if poor home run continues past Christmas or if he lost the dressing room. Wins are coming more frequently and more importantly the players absolutely love him, so he is here to stay!

Thank god for that.

The most important thing ATM is for BR to feel secure in his job, and not to resort to desperate tactics in order to save his job.

All the great revolutions took time to develop.

Phucking hell

[Ian Royal]

FWIW Madejski is apparently '100% behind' Rodgers.

How many chairman say that two weeks before a sacking or mutual consent?

I appear to have missed an opportunity to be smug.

[andrew1957]

The truth is we will never know if Rodgers could have turned it round or not. Because of the way things have turned out he is an easy target.

Would we have done better this season if McD had been in charge from the start of the season - possibly - but again he may have suffered from the same bad start that Rodgers had. It may have been McD that was sacked in December and Rodgers that then left Watford and was being hailed as a savour at the end of the season.

Football is a funny old game and to a large extent success is achieved by momentum. A poor run breeds negativity, just as a good run results in a generally positive attitude amongst players and fans alike.

I hope Rodgers gets another chance at MK Dons or somewhere and then we will see if he has it in him to succeed.

[Ian Royal]

I think it's fairly easy to tell given McDermott has made very few mistakes, changed the playing style, tactics and selection policy. Whereas Rodgers made mistake after mistake.

McDermott has rarely made poor substitutions, or not made substitutions. Rodgers frequently made poorly judged or late substitutions.

[handbags_harris]

The truth is we will never know if Rodgers could have turned it round or not. Because of the way things have turned out he is an easy target.

Would we have done better this season if McD had been in charge from the start of the season - possibly - but again he may have suffered from the same bad start that Rodgers had. It may have been McD that was sacked in December and Rodgers that then left Watford and was being hailed as a savour at the end of the season.

Football is a funny old game and to a large extent success is achieved by momentum. A poor run breeds negativity, just as a good run results in a generally positive attitude amongst players and fans alike.

I hope Rodgers gets another chance at MK Dons or somewhere and then we will see if he has it in him to succeed.

I personally think he would have carried on in his own little world of "exceptional performances" where in fact the whole world could see we were a pretty damn poor side.

I very much doubt McDermott would have had the same sort of start as Rodgers, mainly because there is one major difference between the two managers - Rodgers tried (and failed) to fit players into a system and style of play that they were never suited to. McDermott fits the system around the players, and that ladies and gentlemen is how to get a team playing solidly and fluently.

You're right, football is a funny old game. It is also a simple game made more difficult by those who should know better - McDermott has simplified the game we play. That is why we're winning. Rodgers complicated matters, players went to him and said they weren't sure what they were supposed to be doing, so Rodgers dropped them (for that, see Mr Mills).

And I couldn't care less where Rodgers ends up, however I believe if he doesn't alter his ways drastically and stop trying to be Jose Mourinho Mark II then he'll be an utter failure. I also though the man was an arrogant c*nt who thought he was better than he was.

[winchester_royal]

FWIW Madejski is apparently '100% behind' Rodgers.

How many chairman say that two weeks before a sacking or mutual consent?

I appear to have missed an opportunity to be smug.

Just FTR, I was the first to inform HNA of Rodgers' dismissal, a good 24 hours before it was confirmed by the club.

Not that I'm trying to save face or anything...

[andrew1957]

The truth is we will never know if Rodgers could have turned it round or not. Because of the way things have turned out he is an easy target.

Would we have done better this season if McD had been in charge from the start of the season - possibly - but again he may have suffered from the same bad start that Rodgers had. It may have been McD that was sacked in December and Rodgers that then left Watford and was being hailed as a savour at the end of the season.

Football is a funny old game and to a large extent success is achieved by momentum. A poor run breeds negativity, just as a good run results in a generally positive attitude amongst players and fans alike.

I hope Rodgers gets another chance at MK Dons or somewhere and then we will see if he has it in him to succeed.

I personally think he would have carried on in his own little world of "exceptional performances" where in fact the whole world could see we were a pretty damn poor side.

I very much doubt McDermott would have had the same sort of start as Rodgers, mainly because there is one major difference between the two managers - Rodgers tried (and failed) to fit players into a system and style of play that they were never suited to. McDermott fits the system around the players, and that ladies and gentlemen is how to get a team playing solidly and fluently.

You're right, football is a funny old game. It is also a simple game made more difficult by those who should know better - McDermott has simplified the game we play. That is why we're winning. Rodgers complicated matters, players went to him and said they weren't sure what they were supposed to be doing, so Rodgers dropped them (for that, see Mr Mills).

And I couldn't care less where Rodgers ends up, however I believe if he doesn't alter his ways drastically and stop trying to be Jose Mourinho Mark II then he'll be an utter failure. I also though the man was an arrogant c*nt who thought he was better than he was.

Don't get me wrong - McD has done a great job and I am 100% behind him. The point I am making is that if McD had started the season - with all the disruption of losing a good proportion of the team -would he have been a success from the off? As it was he took over when things were at rock bottom and has turned things round magnificently.

I just think that people are so black and white and now see Rodgers as some sort of Satan figure -when I am sure the guy was trying his best.

[Ian Royal]

No he wouldn't have been an instant success. No I don't think we'd have mounted a sustained promotion push.

But I'm pretty confident we wouldn't have been nearly as bad (although that would have meant we're less likely to have had such a fantastic run in Feb / March).

[readingbedding]

Whoever BmcD would have brought in, BmcD would have still played the team according to the team he was against.
The fact that BR was blinkered in his opinion that his team, played his way, with no compromise given to the opposing team he was facing week in week was very, very apparent.

So green.

[weybridgewanderer]

The truth is we will never know if Rodgers could have turned it round or not. Because of the way things have turned out he is an easy target.

Under Rodgers the team would have continued to get fatter and slower and we would have lost more and more points in the last 15 minutes of games

Instead a manager came in that reduced the players weight, got they fit again and we started taking something from games in the last 10 minutes

[strap]

Sorry, Brendan who?