Selles not out

[WestYorksRoyal]

I think its too early to sack him but I think it is relatively clear he should never have been appointed. We needed a steady Eddie League 1 expert not the second coming of Jose Gomes.

I think Bowen misread the situation. Lots of us said L1 was the chance for a rebuild; he went for an idealistic, inexperienced manager when it was always going to be a tough season. Perhaps he banked on more experience in the playing staff to compensate but couldn't because of Dai.

Reminds me a bit of the Rodgers experiment, except that was a blip among us being a well run club. This is just exhibit 9578487479508658 of what a shit show we are.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not saying out yet. But he's an absolute shambles.

And we all know managers don’t recover from this position.

Next up we have acup game at home V Swindon who will be out for blood. Then a home game vs 2nd place Oxford, who will take delight in smashing us. Before being back away at Charlton and thrn home to Fleetwood.

We're likely looking at another two defeats before the hope of staving off the rot with some points at home.

Without the ownership situation I think Selles would be sacked if the next two go as expected and we don’t beat Fleetwood.

We've just had a run of 3 of the easier games we'll get this season. And we've picked up 1 point.

You've said at the start how rare it is for managers to recover from this situation. Why wait until we've lost a few more games before acting?

I can't think who would want to come here with the experience we need. Could Bowen step into the breach again?

Because you give people a fair chance to fix their inadequate performance before you go to sacking.

[Ascotexgunner]

Not saying out yet. But he's an absolute shambles.

And we all know managers don’t recover from this position.

Next up we have acup game at home V Swindon who will be out for blood. Then a home game vs 2nd place Oxford, who will take delight in smashing us. Before being back away at Charlton and thrn home to Fleetwood.

We're likely looking at another two defeats before the hope of staving off the rot with some points at home.

Without the ownership situation I think Selles would be sacked if the next two go as expected and we don’t beat Fleetwood.

We've just had a run of 3 of the easier games we'll get this season. And we've picked up 1 point.

You've said at the start how rare it is for managers to recover from this situation. Why wait until we've lost a few more games before acting?

I can't think who would want to come here with the experience we need. Could Bowen step into the breach again?

Put Hunt in until we find someone. Ainsworth is close to the bullet.....see if he wants it soon. He wants to manage locally.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think its too early to sack him but I think it is relatively clear he should never have been appointed. We needed a steady Eddie League 1 expert not the second coming of Jose Gomes.

Most of us said it before he was appointed.

We need a manager with experience of managing in the lower leagues and preferably some success in that.

Wilder, Jones, Wellens, Cowleys... hell, he who the racist mentions endlessly.

We get another on the merrigoround of top flight coaches turned total failures at management.

[NathStPaul]

I think its too early to sack him but I think it is relatively clear he should never have been appointed. We needed a steady Eddie League 1 expert not the second coming of Jose Gomes.

Most of us said it before he was appointed.

We need a manager with experience of managing in the lower leagues and preferably some success in that.

Wilder, Jones, Wellens, Cowleys... hell, he who the racist mentions endlessly.

We get another on the merrigoround of top flight coaches turned total failures at management.

Still think its an attractive job for an out of work manager. It literally cannot get much worse than it is. Coming in at rock bottom and steadying the ship at one of the biggest clubs in League 1 isn't a bad gig for an out of work man of experience.

I wouldn't be sad about sacking Selles but I do think he deserves another month.

[leon]

Not saying out yet. But he's an absolute shambles.

And we all know managers don’t recover from this position.

Next up we have acup game at home V Swindon who will be out for blood. Then a home game vs 2nd place Oxford, who will take delight in smashing us. Before being back away at Charlton and thrn home to Fleetwood.

We're likely looking at another two defeats before the hope of staving off the rot with some points at home.

Without the ownership situation I think Selles would be sacked if the next two go as expected and we don’t beat Fleetwood.

We've just had a run of 3 of the easier games we'll get this season. And we've picked up 1 point.

You've said at the start how rare it is for managers to recover from this situation. Why wait until we've lost a few more games before acting?

I can't think who would want to come here with the experience we need. Could Bowen step into the breach again?

Put Hunt in until we find someone. Ainsworth is close to the bullet.....see if he wants it soon. He wants to manage locally.

Yeah that could be an option. Selles looks utterly incapable and totally out of his depth.

Looks like the much maligned Tim Dellor was spot on about him. Just as a lot of on here were right about the shit state of the club at the start of the season.

[Ascotexgunner]

You've said at the start how rare it is for managers to recover from this situation. Why wait until we've lost a few more games before acting?

I can't think who would want to come here with the experience we need. Could Bowen step into the breach again?

Put Hunt in until we find someone. Ainsworth is close to the bullet.....see if he wants it soon. He wants to manage locally.

Yeah that could be an option. Selles looks utterly incapable and totally out of his depth.

Looks like the much maligned Tim Dellor was spot on about him. Just as a lot of on here were right about the shit state of the club at the start of the season.

Dellor said it, I thought he was talking crap when he said possible relegation. Credit to him.

[leon]

Put Hunt in until we find someone. Ainsworth is close to the bullet.....see if he wants it soon. He wants to manage locally.

Yeah that could be an option. Selles looks utterly incapable and totally out of his depth.

Looks like the much maligned Tim Dellor was spot on about him. Just as a lot of on here were right about the shit state of the club at the start of the season.

Dellor said it, I thought he was talking crap when he said possible relegation. Credit to him.

Yeah but the experts on here sneered at him?!

[JR]

Not saying out yet. But he's an absolute shambles.

And we all know managers don’t recover from this position.

Next up we have acup game at home V Swindon who will be out for blood. Then a home game vs 2nd place Oxford, who will take delight in smashing us. Before being back away at Charlton and thrn home to Fleetwood.

We're likely looking at another two defeats before the hope of staving off the rot with some points at home.

Without the ownership situation I think Selles would be sacked if the next two go as expected and we don’t beat Fleetwood.

We've just had a run of 3 of the easier games we'll get this season. And we've picked up 1 point.

Guaranteed not to lose the home game vs Oxford on the 14th

[Snowflake Royal]

Not saying out yet. But he's an absolute shambles.

And we all know managers don’t recover from this position.

Next up we have acup game at home V Swindon who will be out for blood. Then a home game vs 2nd place Oxford, who will take delight in smashing us. Before being back away at Charlton and thrn home to Fleetwood.

We're likely looking at another two defeats before the hope of staving off the rot with some points at home.

Without the ownership situation I think Selles would be sacked if the next two go as expected and we don’t beat Fleetwood.

We've just had a run of 3 of the easier games we'll get this season. And we've picked up 1 point.

Guaranteed not to lose the home game vs Oxford on the 14th

Are whoscored being very lazy with their fixture list.

Ok. Gets till Shrewbury. 3 home games on the bounce after Charlton. If he can pick up some points in that lot and get at least a point away, he's done and we should appoint someone who knows how to get promoted from L2.

[Orion1871]

Yeah that could be an option. Selles looks utterly incapable and totally out of his depth.

Looks like the much maligned Tim Dellor was spot on about him. Just as a lot of on here were right about the shit state of the club at the start of the season.

Dellor said it, I thought he was talking crap when he said possible relegation. Credit to him.

Yeah but the experts on here sneered at him?!

Same experts who said League 1 was the reset the club needed and that we'd win more games.

[Elm Park Kid]

I asked this with Ince as well - but what's the point in sacking the manager when our recruitment process is such a shambles?

It's like putting your hand in a bag of shit, pulling out some shit and then saying 'lets try again'.

[NathStPaul]

I asked this with Ince as well - but what's the point in sacking the manager when our recruitment process is such a shambles?

It's like putting your hand in a bag of shit, pulling out some shit and then saying 'lets try again'.

The team we have are not a bottom 4 League 1 side. It is poor tactics more than ability at this point in time.

[Elm Park Kid]

I asked this with Ince as well - but what's the point in sacking the manager when our recruitment process is such a shambles?

It's like putting your hand in a bag of shit, pulling out some shit and then saying 'lets try again'.

The team we have are not a bottom 4 League 1 side. It is poor tactics more than ability at this point in time.

So, you think we'll do better when we hire some random Greek coach from the Saudi second division?

Until Dai goes nothing is going to change.

[leon]

Dellor said it, I thought he was talking crap when he said possible relegation. Credit to him.

Yeah but the experts on here sneered at him?!

Same experts who said League 1 was the reset the club needed and that we'd win more games.

Indeed. “league one is fun”

[Brogue]

Need to see how we do with smith in the side before I make my mind up. If we are still shit with him in the side then yeah time to go.

[genome]

Yeah but the experts on here sneered at him?!

Same experts who said League 1 was the reset the club needed and that we'd win more games.

Indeed. “league one is fun”

Yeah... and? That's what happens to a lot of teams. Not really the "gotcha" you think it is leon

[under the tin]

I asked this with Ince as well - but what's the point in sacking the manager when our recruitment process is such a shambles?

It's like putting your hand in a bag of shit, pulling out some shit and then saying 'lets try again'.

The team we have are not a bottom 4 League 1 side. It is poor tactics more than ability at this point in time.

Fully agree.
Those in the "second row and third rows" of his formation are getting sucked into the middle of the pitch, leaving enough space for the Argyll and Sutherland highlanders to attack our then exposed Full backs.
The system Selles uses makes it too easy to move our players out of position.
We've not lost 7 games out of 11 to Man City, Barcelona, et al, just bread and butter clubs who can only dream of having the set up and facilities we have, but they employ experienced people who are prepared, to quote our Brian, to "work with what we've got".

Selles also still does not know his best XI. Hasn't sussed the players, nor the players who can implement his system. End of story.

Get rid, before we're cut adrift, and destroy the start of talented young players' careers.
We need an experienced organiser.
The resources are there. Abbey is a real "find" as is Blindon. They need protection in front of them as young pro's.
Vickers has that game-changing vibe about him. Elliot oozes culture.
Most on here agreed that Bowen's albeit short tenure as manager resulted in the side being much better organised.
That's the way to go. Make us hard to break down, then use that as a platform to build on and develop "our identity" (Copyright R Selles).
Before it's too late.

[under the tin]

I asked this with Ince as well - but what's the point in sacking the manager when our recruitment process is such a shambles?

It's like putting your hand in a bag of shit, pulling out some shit and then saying 'lets try again'.

The team we have are not a bottom 4 League 1 side. It is poor tactics more than ability at this point in time.

Fully agree.
Those in the "second row and third rows" of his formation are getting sucked into the middle of the pitch, leaving enough space for the Argyll and Sutherland highlanders to attack our then exposed Full backs.
The system Selles uses makes it too easy to move our players out of position.
We've not lost 7 games out of 11 to Man City, Barcelona, et al, just bread and butter clubs who can only dream of having the set up and facilities we have, but they employ experienced people who are prepared, to quote our Brian, to "work with what we've got".

Selles also still does not know his best XI. Hasn't sussed the players, nor the players who can implement his system. End of story.

Get rid, before we're cut adrift, and destroy the start of talented young players' careers.
We need an experienced organiser.
The resources are there. Abbey is a real "find" as is Blindon. They need protection in front of them as young pro's.
Vickers has that game-changing vibe about him. Elliot oozes culture.
Most on here agreed that Bowen's albeit short tenure as manager resulted in the side being much better organised.
That's the way to go. Make us hard to break down, then use that as a platform to build on and develop "our identity" (Copyright R Selles).
Before it's too late.

[under the tin]

OOps double post!