How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

[Ian Royal]

Win % from McDermott's last 40 Reading games:

20%

Why would you string together two periods three years apart with almost two entirely different XIs?

The last 8 in the league is bad enough, even 11 inc cup ain't great.

But then it's silly tryingvto prove anything with so few games played so far.

And even if he's doing abysmally, we've rolled the dice on a change of manager twice now. McDermott's got to get next season and ideall the start of the next too... even if we're still lower mid-table.

We need continuity for a while.

[Thou Voice]

Clarke sacked = 1 point off the play-offs
McDermott in charge = 13 points off the play-offs

This is what happens when you employee a scout to do a managers job.

He really does need to go as he is not very good you know.

He is living on a legacy of a few wins before he was sacked for being a failure - he then returns and carries on.

I think he is either that bad or still pissed at being sacked for failing last time around ( before his most recent sackings at leeds - both of them ), that he is on a mission to take us to D1 and below.

If there was ever a disapointment fish needed, I know who I would pick for the role.

Do You See ?

[howser]

Isnt the "in" phrase "we move on" lol ??

[RoyalBlue]

It took Coppell about 18 months and a dash of luck to get there.

McD has a 'previous' in that he's sorted teams out quite rapidly, but I think it'd be unfair to judge him on that this season. The aim is only going to be to get the building blocks in place, the less useful blocks out of the club, be clear of the bottom few places and enjoy the FA cup.

How are we building for next season? We are still stuffed with loanees who will be gone, are running down contracts on a number of other good players, are signing 'old' boys with only a year or so left in them, and other new signings are also on relatively short term contracts. Got to be an awful lot of effective transfer activity in the summer with some decent investment. The Reading way? Pigs cleared for take off.

How many of those loanees are from before McD? How many has he brought in? And who has he brought in, other than Kermorgant? A 21 year old and a 23 year old. Hardly 'old boys'. You're basically kicking off at, in order, Clarke, the way the club has run for the last few seasons, Kermorgant, and nothing.

Do you mind awfully if I ignore you?

Mind the sand doesn't get up your nose!

It matters not a f*ck who brought the loanees in, they are here and precious little has been done to line up replacements for them. Kermogant an old boy on a short term contract - not planning for the future (maybe not even next season if he does a Roberts). Other pretty key players with their contracts running out, no real efforts to renew and no replacements lined up.

Is that all McDermott's fault? Of course not but his poor performance is being excused by some on the basis that we are building for the future, which does not appear to really be the case. Is it a criticism of the way the club has been run over the past few seasons? Too damn right!

Oh and owners deciding who we will have in our squad. McDermott's fault? Yes, at least partly because he is a yes man who is prepared to take their salary and put up with their interference. Maybe there were good reasons why Clarke wanted out after all.

[howser]

You hit the nail there Royal Blue easy to see why Steve Clarke was wanting to do a runner, is it really possible to sell the club to two duffers one after the other ??

[Ian Royal]

Why would you line up replacements for players who are here for another six months and maybe longer?

We've got a big squad as it is. No one can afford a first team squad of 40 - 50 players, which is what we'd have if we brought in replacements for the likes of Vydra, Piazon, Hector, John, Taylor and Fernandez in January. Especially in January, which is always an atrocious time to bring in good players.

[leon]

You hit the nail there Royal Blue easy to see why Steve Clarke was wanting to do a runner, is it really possible to sell the club to two duffers one after the other ??

Clarke put that team together. The bloke was a joker. Now someone's got to pick up the pieces.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Does it actually matter who is in charge? Same unremarkable results, really. We've been so inconsistent for so long i find it tricky to pin down what exactly is Adkins' / Clarke's / McD2's Reading.

[howser]

[quote="leon"][quote="howser"]You hit the nail there Royal Blue easy to see why Steve Clarke was wanting to do a runner, is it really possible to sell the club to two duffers one after the other ??[/quote]

Clarke put that team together. The bloke was a joker. Now someone's got to pick up the pieces.[/quote]


You honestly believe that Fernandez, Hurtado, John and Sa were Clarkes choices ? recent window activity would suggest not, if Clarke had stayed we would be a lot higher than we are now with he who is presently in the managers chair, it is noticeable that several others on here are now accepting what a mistake it was, too many living in the past when we " got lucky" under him.

[Extended-Phenotype]

How do you know we'd be higher?

My guess would be that we'd be exactly the same. But my guess is as factual as yours.

[Ian Royal]

if Clarke had stayed we would be a lot higher than we are now with he who is presently in the managers chair, it is noticeable that several others on here are now accepting what a mistake it was, too many living in the past when we " got lucky" under him.

Bollocks

Clarke's last 8
P8, W1, D3, L4 F9, A15, Pts 6

McDermott's first 8
P8, W2, D2, L4, F6, A8, Pts 8

[sandman]

Wouldn't bother with howser, very strange individual.

[The Royal Forester]

Clarke sacked = 1 point off the play-offs
McDermott in charge = 13 points off the play-offs

This is what happens when you employee a scout to do a managers job.

He really does need to go as he is not very good you know.

He is living on a legacy of a few wins before he was sacked for being a failure - he then returns and carries on.

I think he is either that bad or still pissed at being sacked for failing last time around ( before his most recent sackings at leeds - both of them ), that he is on a mission to take us to D1 and below.

If there was ever a disapointment fish needed, I know who I would pick for the role.

Do You See ?

Clarke brought in a lot of the players and had a year to get to know the ones he did not. When he was sacked, we may have been only one point off the playoffs, but we were in a false position after six wins in seven matches. What position were we in and how many points off the playoffs were we, when BMc. took over? After that run of wins, under Steve Clarkes management we started to slide down the table alarmingly. When Brian came in he only knew the players that were here 3 years ago, so he has to get to know their qualities and how to get them to gel into a team. He had about three games in his first week, therefore would not have been able to change anything in that time. Why are you not giving the man a chance?

[Thou Voice]

Why not giving a chance ?

The man is a retro step backwards that most can see about from those with RTG.

He has demonstrated a slide down the table and brought nothing of value in terms of progression.

He'll be long gone within a year from now. If he wanted to get back into management - a club he was sacked from is not the best way forward.

Fact is, we're getting worse.

Do you see ?

[Maneki Neko]

Lol at selling ur two top scorers and expecting immediate improvements.

[Blackbag]

Wouldn't bother with howser, very strange individual.

Wouldn't bother with sandman , dickhead

[howser]

It's all going to end in tears (soon hopefully).............

[Royal_jimmy]

I'm not pleased at all but I think the buck stops with the players and owners not the manager. They've really not performed to scratch since October.

Our players don't care and we have owners who were like Madejski, tight and won't invest in promising players.

Can't say I'm pleased with what McDermott has done either. We should have got a young promising manager like Justin Edinburgh from Gillingham not gone back to a bloke we sacked for an incompetent tactical ability. Then again it's hard to blame him for recent form so I won't point the finger at him.

[sandman]

Wouldn't bother with howser, very strange individual.

Wouldn't bother with sandman , dickhead

Cheers Ballbag.

[AirRaidSiren]

Brian one trick pony McDermott the manager who was sought after after his sacking from here, sarcasm intended, now back with us to show the faithful what a fabulous manager he is.

The faithful will say:

'It's not his team'
'Give him a chance'
'It's the players fault'
'It's the owners fault'
And the classic 'he won us the title before, don't you remember?'

Yes i do. Thank you.

He will never ever be that lucky again.

The owners really must take time on the next manager after Brian is shown the door, hopefully that will be sooner than later