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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 11:07

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Dirk Gently I thought that if you accept the punishment then the ban is automatic, but if you want to contest it or have a personal hearing to present mitigation there's obviously a delay while this happens.


Possibly. All seems to have blown out of all proportion given all he did was "kick a ball down the touchline, hardly as if he hurled abuse at officials, decked someone or violently kicked the ball across the pitch.

He deliberately prevented an opposition player from being able to restart the game to gain an advantage for his team.

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Re: Selles In

by Hound » 05 Jan 2024 11:16

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Dirk Gently I thought that if you accept the punishment then the ban is automatic, but if you want to contest it or have a personal hearing to present mitigation there's obviously a delay while this happens.


Possibly. All seems to have blown out of all proportion given all he did was "kick a ball down the touchline, hardly as if he hurled abuse at officials, decked someone or violently kicked the ball across the pitch.

He deliberately prevented an opposition player from being able to restart the game to gain an advantage for his team.


Tbf imagine the abuse he’d got if he’d just given the ball to the opposition player to take the quick throw in

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Re: Selles In

by morganb » 05 Jan 2024 11:17

Would/should the referee or fourth official not be aware he was banned? If we tried to field a suspended player would they let us and then take retrospective action, or would the ref be provided with these details in advance.

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Re: Selles In

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 05 Jan 2024 11:18

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Possibly. All seems to have blown out of all proportion given all he did was "kick a ball down the touchline, hardly as if he hurled abuse at officials, decked someone or violently kicked the ball across the pitch.

He deliberately prevented an opposition player from being able to restart the game to gain an advantage for his team.


Tbf imagine the abuse he’d got if he’d just given the ball to the opposition player to take the quick throw in


Exactly - don't see why it's perceived as a bad thing. If a player did that on the field it would be seen as good game management.

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 11:29

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Possibly. All seems to have blown out of all proportion given all he did was "kick a ball down the touchline, hardly as if he hurled abuse at officials, decked someone or violently kicked the ball across the pitch.

He deliberately prevented an opposition player from being able to restart the game to gain an advantage for his team.


Tbf imagine the abuse he’d got if he’d just given the ball to the opposition player to take the quick throw in

I doubt anyone would notice.

He could have just not touched the ball.


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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 11:30

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Snowflake Royal He deliberately prevented an opposition player from being able to restart the game to gain an advantage for his team.


Tbf imagine the abuse he’d got if he’d just given the ball to the opposition player to take the quick throw in


Exactly - don't see why it's perceived as a bad thing. If a player did that on the field it would be seen as good game management.

Because its expressly prohibited.

Players also get cards for it.

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 05 Jan 2024 11:34

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Tbf imagine the abuse he’d got if he’d just given the ball to the opposition player to take the quick throw in


Exactly - don't see why it's perceived as a bad thing. If a player did that on the field it would be seen as good game management.

Because its expressly prohibited.

Players also get cards for it.


But we'd rather likely concede and potentially lose the game as opposed to our manager receiving a card/ban or a player receiving a card?

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 11:38

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Exactly - don't see why it's perceived as a bad thing. If a player did that on the field it would be seen as good game management.

Because its expressly prohibited.

Players also get cards for it.


But we'd rather likely concede and potentially lose the game as opposed to our manager receiving a card/ban or a player receiving a card?

Where you getting that from?

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Re: Selles In

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 05 Jan 2024 12:12

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Snowflake Royal Because its expressly prohibited.

Players also get cards for it.


But we'd rather likely concede and potentially lose the game as opposed to our manager receiving a card/ban or a player receiving a card?

Where you getting that from?


Well our goalkeeper was ~30 yards out of his goal with their forward on the edge of our box and another player looking to take a quick throw in. Ok, nothing is guaranteed and we had a fair bit of cover at the time but it was not a bad idea to prevent them taking a quick throw in given the situation.


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Re: Selles In

by Hound » 05 Jan 2024 12:36

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But we'd rather likely concede and potentially lose the game as opposed to our manager receiving a card/ban or a player receiving a card?

Where you getting that from?


Well our goalkeeper was ~30 yards out of his goal with their forward on the edge of our box and another player looking to take a quick throw in. Ok, nothing is guaranteed and we had a fair bit of cover at the time but it was not a bad idea to prevent them taking a quick throw in given the situation.


Let’s be honest Ian, if he’d stopped the ball, their player had taken a quick throw in and they’d scored as a result you’d be incandescent with rage at him

He should have just let the ball go through his legs and got out the way, but assume it’s a bit of instinct in the heat of the moment

Deserved the red card as those are the rules but I’ve no real issue with him doing what he did

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Re: Selles In

by Sutekh » 05 Jan 2024 12:38

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But we'd rather likely concede and potentially lose the game as opposed to our manager receiving a card/ban or a player receiving a card?

Where you getting that from?


Well our goalkeeper was ~30 yards out of his goal with their forward on the edge of our box and another player looking to take a quick throw in. Ok, nothing is guaranteed and we had a fair bit of cover at the time but it was not a bad idea to prevent them taking a quick throw in given the situation.


Players always stop opponents doing things quickly; sneaky getting in the way, not retreating for set pieces, kicking the ball harder than necessary when putting it out of play, giving the ref an earful of talk so he can't restart the game etc. they may or may not get penalised as a result. Usually a yellow offence though not a sending off.

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 12:44

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Snowflake Royal Where you getting that from?


Well our goalkeeper was ~30 yards out of his goal with their forward on the edge of our box and another player looking to take a quick throw in. Ok, nothing is guaranteed and we had a fair bit of cover at the time but it was not a bad idea to prevent them taking a quick throw in given the situation.


Let’s be honest Ian, if he’d stopped the ball, their player had taken a quick throw in and they’d scored as a result you’d be incandescent with rage at him

He should have just let the ball go through his legs and got out the way, but assume it’s a bit of instinct in the heat of the moment

Deserved the red card as those are the rules but I’ve no real issue with him doing what he did

You can make up shit all you like mate. Doesn't make it true.

He got the punishment, required and deserved.

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Re: Selles In

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 05 Jan 2024 12:49

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Well our goalkeeper was ~30 yards out of his goal with their forward on the edge of our box and another player looking to take a quick throw in. Ok, nothing is guaranteed and we had a fair bit of cover at the time but it was not a bad idea to prevent them taking a quick throw in given the situation.


Let’s be honest Ian, if he’d stopped the ball, their player had taken a quick throw in and they’d scored as a result you’d be incandescent with rage at him

He should have just let the ball go through his legs and got out the way, but assume it’s a bit of instinct in the heat of the moment

Deserved the red card as those are the rules but I’ve no real issue with him doing what he did

You can make up shit all you like mate. Doesn't make it true.

He got the punishment, required and deserved.


Sorry you looked at this with your usual anti-Selles glasses on again. I wonder what your opinion would be if Chris Wilder or Mark Bowen did something like that.


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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 13:03

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Let’s be honest Ian, if he’d stopped the ball, their player had taken a quick throw in and they’d scored as a result you’d be incandescent with rage at him

He should have just let the ball go through his legs and got out the way, but assume it’s a bit of instinct in the heat of the moment

Deserved the red card as those are the rules but I’ve no real issue with him doing what he did

You can make up shit all you like mate. Doesn't make it true.

He got the punishment, required and deserved.


Sorry you looked at this with your usual anti-Selles glasses on again. I wonder what your opinion would be if Chris Wilder or Mark Bowen did something like that.

They wouldn't have.

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by Hound » 05 Jan 2024 13:03

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Well our goalkeeper was ~30 yards out of his goal with their forward on the edge of our box and another player looking to take a quick throw in. Ok, nothing is guaranteed and we had a fair bit of cover at the time but it was not a bad idea to prevent them taking a quick throw in given the situation.


Let’s be honest Ian, if he’d stopped the ball, their player had taken a quick throw in and they’d scored as a result you’d be incandescent with rage at him

He should have just let the ball go through his legs and got out the way, but assume it’s a bit of instinct in the heat of the moment

Deserved the red card as those are the rules but I’ve no real issue with him doing what he did

You can make up shit all you like mate. Doesn't make it true.

He got the punishment, required and deserved.


Doesn’t make what true? That you’d have whinged at Selles had he done that? Because we all know you would

And I didn’t argue that it wasn’t required or deserved. The opposite in fact

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Jan 2024 13:17

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Let’s be honest Ian, if he’d stopped the ball, their player had taken a quick throw in and they’d scored as a result you’d be incandescent with rage at him

He should have just let the ball go through his legs and got out the way, but assume it’s a bit of instinct in the heat of the moment

Deserved the red card as those are the rules but I’ve no real issue with him doing what he did

You can make up shit all you like mate. Doesn't make it true.

He got the punishment, required and deserved.


Doesn’t make what true? That you’d have whinged at Selles had he done that? Because we all know you would

And I didn’t argue that it wasn’t required or deserved. The opposite in fact


I'll be the arbiter of what I think, thanks very much.

And I didn't argue anything other than what he did was prohibited, but it didn’t stop you and YR wading in as if I'd said something completely different.

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Re: Selles In

by Wycombe Royal » 05 Jan 2024 13:21

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Snowflake Royal You can make up shit all you like mate. Doesn't make it true.

He got the punishment, required and deserved.


Doesn’t make what true? That you’d have whinged at Selles had he done that? Because we all know you would

And I didn’t argue that it wasn’t required or deserved. The opposite in fact


I'll be the arbiter of what I think, thanks very much.

And I didn't argue anything other than what he did was prohibited, but it didn’t stop you and YR wading in as if I'd said something completely different.

Christ, I'd bet that you could even have an argument with a paper bag.

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Re: Selles In

by Royal Rother » 05 Jan 2024 13:32

Jeez, hard to believe the obnoxioustwatometer gauge could go higher but Ian is here to prove there's always another level.

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Re: Selles In

by Brogue » 05 Jan 2024 13:47

yeah ian

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Re: Selles In

by Pepe the Horseman » 05 Jan 2024 13:58

I stand with Ian.

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