Back from the Game

[chilipepper91]

We were on the side close to the home end, from where we were it looked like a decent penalty shout from Armstrong deep into injury time, any thoughts as the rest of you were closer? I can confirm that for the first goal, the ball went nowhere near the goaline at any stage.

The officials capped an all round feeble effort with that 5 minute debate after Bikey was booked, what was all that about?

No idea, we thought they were going to send off a coach etc., but no.

Referee atrocities (as much the linesman for most of them):
- Our first goal
- Their first goal - coupled with Bikey's disallowed, either both or none should have been goals.
- Long having his shirt wrenched off his neck, not winning a penalty, and remonstrating with the referee about said incident, who gave him a yellow card for his troubles.
- Doyle being BLATANTLY pushed in the back in the box when contesting a header, again nothing going.
- MuLOLtibaLOLOL.
- many other niggling ones, such as a corner against Armstrong at the end of the first half, when it took no touch off him.

Terrible referee, it's hard to say whether it's a point gained or two dropped simply because another decision another way would've decided it, it was barely in our destiny...

[Schards#2]

Strap - Kebe wasn't crap. Far from it. He's just a bit rough around the edges.

Thanks for your update. I know how he feels!

However, based on what little commentaries filtered through to my PC today, he was cr@p. Three "good" runs I believe, with NO end product. Quite how a run can be considered "good" if nothing comes of it is quite beyond me. How many crosses did he put over? How many times did he get to the bye-line? How many tackles did he make? Against Ipswich he was a complete joke of a "player". Utter waste of space. Presumably his miss of an open goal in the first 10 minutes so dented his confidence, he quite forgot there were another 80 mins to play?!? I won't bother to mention passes to him bouncing off his heals, his leisurely jogs around the half-way line when there were often 2 or 3 ipswich players careering into empty space he should have been patrolling. At least the ImpOSTER gave the impression of knowing what he should be doing, despite not having the abilty to do it. Kebe is simply a clown.

If that is the generally accepted RTG definition of a good player, we are in serious trouble. Even more so if it what the RFC staff define as a good player! There is a very good reason he was playing bit part football for Bologne in the French 2nd division last year. And yet he was bought to help save our Premiership status? Oh please!

Actually, I'm being unfair on Kebe. It's not his fault he's out of his depth. It's the weird "parallel universe" our transfer "policy" resides in that really riles me. He is just the physical manifestation of this "policy", so perhaps I should give it a rest? On second thoughts, perhaps not! Someone has to point out the elephant in the room!!

With all due respect, you're talking utter garbage.

Kebe has a rare ability to go past players, is a superb dribbler and has tremendous pace.

He's not the finished article but has genuine ability to work with and is the most exciting player in our squad.

I wouldn't class myself as an RTG.

[Ups and Downs]

The papers are already calling the first one of the most bizarre goals ever. Can't argue with that.

[Archie's penalty]

A very enjoyable game and a committed performance from the lads today. Karacan was great. He's very quick and was winning balls in the air, tackling and passing well. He's a little dynamo. That's the first time I have seen him play and was very impressed.

Pearce was good first half but poor in the second. Hope he stays in the team though. Armstrong looks a great signing. He's strong, good in the air and committed. Kebe was very exciting and I love the guy. If he improves his crossing he will be amazing for us. Nhunt was also very strong and committed. Him and Doyle is definitely the partnership for us.

Thought that Rosenior and Shunt were also very good. Overall a very good second half - lots of commitment from the boys. They didn't want to lose and they didn't.

I am positive about the way we ground out a point and am very happy with the two new signing and the academy boys. I think Pearce wasn't amazing but will improve.

I think we should finish in the playoffs this year...

[2.8 lita injection]

I thought kebe did well, he made get up from my seat many times and obviously the final ball needs working on but he still hasnt played 10 games for us yet.

[juanpablo]

so evens that we reach the play offs? not win them?

That's right. Evens a top six finish

deal 100 pound


not sure how we can do this but you have my word, if you want anything of mail then let me know

im pretty sure i can trust you

[Royalwaster]

Strap - Kebe wasn't crap. Far from it. He's just a bit rough around the edges.

Thanks for your update. I know how he feels!

However, based on what little commentaries filtered through to my PC today, he was cr@p.

Based on what 's coming through onto my PC today, you're a complete idiot. Slagging off a player when you've not even been to the match ...

[Royal Yank]

so evens that we reach the play offs? not win them?

That's right. Evens a top six finish

deal 100 pound


not sure how we can do this but you have my word, if you want anything of mail then let me know

im pretty sure i can trust you

Respect to you both for putting your money where your mouth is!

No offence Schards, but I hope you are moaning about being 100 quid poorer in May

[Schards#2]

so evens that we reach the play offs? not win them?

That's right. Evens a top six finish

deal 100 pound


not sure how we can do this but you have my word, if you want anything of mail then let me know

im pretty sure i can trust you

Of course you can - it's a deal.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

said in the in-running thread the ref would even it up.....


thanks for the report all the twats like strap writing us off, if we continue at home and continue to show this kind of improvement away. We will be on the mix end of the season

Ahhh, bless, another blinkered RTG where blind faith ALWAYS over-rules start reality.... we will not finish in the top 6 this year. .

just curious, but where do you think we'll finish?

[Billy The Fish]

We were on the side close to the home end, from where we were it looked like a decent penalty shout from Armstrong deep into injury time, any thoughts as the rest of you were closer?

I thought that was a decent shout as well, I think the ref would have given it if he hadn't just given the one before. Absolutely the worst ref's performance I can remember seeing. Weak. He needed to give a booking early for one of the numerous occasions when Watford players were all over our players to stop it. And I thought there were two clear elbows to the head that he gave just a free-kick for.

Having said that I think we were poor today. Too much long ball.

USA - 6 - Distribution poor again
Rosenior 7 - Good getting forward and defensively
Pearce - 7 - Growing in stature with every game
Bikey - 5 - Solid defensively but just seemed to hoof it up the pitch when in posession
Armstrong - 6 - Nicky who?
S.Hunt - 7 - Typical combative game, touch seems to have deserted him a bit
Kebe - 8 - Great game, one fantastic run in particular was unlucky not to end in a goal
Karacan - 6 - Fairly good display, just lacking a bit of confidence still I think
Harper - 5 - Well below hs best
Doyle - 5 - Rather anonymous
N.Hunt - 6 - Missed a sitter early which would have made it a very different game I think

Sub :
Long - 4 - Very poor, and could / should have been sent off for barging into the ref after being booked. Petulant.

[moo]

Also the warm reception Madejski got was refreshing

[Rex]

Well what ashambles from the ref and both linesmen. Just how many infringements were needed before we got a decision. All in all though good to see we weren't playing hoofball all the time and tried to play our game. Watford , talk about delaying tactics and Attwell completely lost the game. We came out fighting and did well to rattle Watford for the first 10 mins. not the bore draw predicted by some and expected. At least the passion was there in the crowd and Hunt converted the penalty this time.

[Far Canal]

Did any of you wonder what the linesman flagged the referee over for on about 80 minutes?
I certainly did. A Watford fan told me after the match that Harley had been booked for complaining about our "non-goal."
Around 80 minutes he booked Harley again, but failed to give him a red.
The linesman spotted this and flagged to inform the ref. Unfortunately, as he had restarted play, he couldn't send him off.

[Royal Lady]

I thought it was because he'd already booked Long, and the 4th official thought he'd booked Long again, when in fact he'd booked Bikey, but Long had been "having a word" with the ref and the 4th official got confused.

[Far Canal]

from where we were it looked like a decent penalty shout from Armstrong deep into injury time

it looked to me that Armstrong was lucky he wasn't booked for diving.

[Man Friday]

THIS was the most bizarre game ever with the most inept performance you'll ever have the misfortune to witness from the officials:
In no particular order:
1. THAT goal ('nuff said)
2. Doyle being blatantly pushed in the box 2nd half but no pen
3. Amstrong tripped in the box in last minute but no pen (you feckin bottler!)
4. Balls being thrown onto the pitch every 5 minutes.
5. The ball boys one side disappearing with 10 minutes to go so that the directors were having to collect the ball.
6. Bikey being penalised for jumping in their box - on one occasion having a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed.
7. Karakan yellow-carded for an innocuous foul but when their player does a 'Croatia' on him free-kick is award but no yellow card dished out.
8. Long having his shirt ripped off but no free-kick.
9. A goal kick awarded to Watford second half when the ball was still on by a yard (arguably we should have had a free kick for pulling back).
10. Their players going down like flies to waste time.
11. A Watford player getting two yellow cards but not being sent off.

All this because the referree cocked up at the beginning and was trying to compensate for Watford's sake. Believe me, that goal was no benefit to us in the long run.

The most bizarre, unbelievable performance from a set of officials ever seen in professional football - certainly in UK.

[Ian Royal]

Strap - Kebe wasn't crap. Far from it. He's just a bit rough around the edges.

Thanks for your update. I know how he feels!

However, based on what little commentaries filtered through to my PC today, he was cr@p. Three "good" runs I believe, with NO end product. Quite how a run can be considered "good" if nothing comes of it is quite beyond me. How many crosses did he put over? How many times did he get to the bye-line? How many tackles did he make? Against Ipswich he was a complete joke of a "player". Utter waste of space. Presumably his miss of an open goal in the first 10 minutes so dented his confidence, he quite forgot there were another 80 mins to play?!? I won't bother to mention passes to him bouncing off his heals, his leisurely jogs around the half-way line when there were often 2 or 3 ipswich players careering into empty space he should have been patrolling. At least the ImpOSTER gave the impression of knowing what he should be doing, despite not having the abilty to do it. Kebe is simply a clown.

If that is the generally accepted RTG definition of a good player, we are in serious trouble. Even more so if it what the RFC staff define as a good player! There is a very good reason he was playing bit part football for Bologne in the French 2nd division last year. And yet he was bought to help save our Premiership status? Oh please!

Actually, I'm being unfair on Kebe. It's not his fault he's out of his depth. It's the weird "parallel universe" our transfer "policy" resides in that really riles me. He is just the physical manifestation of this "policy", so perhaps I should give it a rest? On second thoughts, perhaps not! Someone has to point out the elephant in the room!!

You keep up your rabid bleatings ignoring all evidence.

[Royal Lady]

If Harley was yellow carded twice, why couldn't the ref have blown up when he realised and then sent him off? I don't believe there's a rule that says if a player has had two yellow cards but not been officially sent off, and play is continued that the ref can't stop play when he realises his mistake and send a player off. I'm pretty sure the 4th official thought Long had been yellow carded twice, when it was actually Bikey booked the second time, but Long was by the ref and the 4th official got confused.

[Man Friday]

Kebe played well. Far and away our most dangerous player. "Fact". Only grizzle is not getting "stuck in" on a couple of occasions.